Was there any good punk rock?

[HelpImaRock]

I admit that I used to love the Ramones when I was a kid, but I don't really get most of it beyond that.

Just because something caused a big sensation doesn't mean that it had value. And it seems like the people who went to the concerts were always trying to find some new experience to make them happy. And it never really happened if they still talk about the past.

What do you think.

 

[aprod]

The bar for musicianship was pretty low for punk rock. It was all about the attitude. More of a social commentary than a musical contribution.

 

[Grinderman]

I sympathized with the desire to express yourself, minus the work required to master an instrument, but like any language, the more fluent you are, the more you can say with it. Three chords gets boring pretty quick. It’s not lost on me that most of the “no future” crowd actually turned out to have a future after all, Johnny Rotten an obnoxious case in point.

Mmmm, yeah, three chords. I still like this song.

 

[EatS1stBassist]

I admit that I used to love the Ramones when I was a kid, but I don't really get most of it beyond that.

Just because something caused a big sensation doesn't mean that it had value. And it seems like the people who went to the concerts were always trying to find some new experience to make them happy. And it never really happened if they still talk about the past.

What do you think.

Original bass player here for Eddie and the Subtitles. We used to open up for X and Black flag would open for us. ‘78/79
It was an exciting time seeing movie stars out there rocking out to our tunes. It was a good band didn’t get along with BL but it was still a good band. EatS1stbassist.

 

[Grinderman]

The bar for musicianship was pretty low for punk rock. It was all about the attitude. More of a social commentary than a musical contribution.

Yeah, low lever musicianship... low bar, like CBGB.

 

[Plectrum72]

If something that supposedly has so much value, can actually hurt the person who loves it if they hear a differing opinion, doesn't make a lot of sense.

So if I trash something you believe has value and it invokes a negative response in you, then my position that it has no value is true? *** kind of nonsense reasoning is that? If you can't see the value/influence punk music has had in the last 40/50 years, that's on you. It seems plenty of non-punk fans in this thread get that it has value even if you don't. I almost regret feeding the troll with this response.

 

[Engle]

Listen to Plastic Surgery Disasters by the Dead Kennedys.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

I propose we rename OP

“Trollercoaster”

 

[HolmeBass]

I admit that I used to love the Ramones when I was a kid, but I don't really get most of it beyond that.

Just because something caused a big sensation doesn't mean that it had value. And it seems like the people who went to the concerts were always trying to find some new experience to make them happy. And it never really happened if they still talk about the past.

What do you think.

You could try having an open mind. That will help with happiness.

Just because someone might reminisce about the past does not automatically mean they are unhappy in the present; that is a sloppy syllogism.

Value is always subjective. Just because it doesn’t have value to you doesn’t mean anything absolute at all. Your tastes are not somehow more correct than anyone else’s.

I have to say you do not seem very happy. Your post is, at best, joyless cynicism. At worst it is blatant trolling.

 

[SunnBass]

The bar for musicianship was pretty low for punk rock.

Common misconception.

 

[ebo]

I tell people sometimes I was totally into punk in the late 70’’s through the mid 80’s. They look at me like I’m a Martian. That’s because they weren’t there. Same goes for Deadheads, Grunge, Metal etc. If you weren’t THERE, you’ll probably never get it. Music is supposed to make you feel something. If you don’t feel it, move along.

 

[Grinderman]

Simple.

 

[rojo412]

Good as in talented musicianship? YES. Lots.
Good as in people who were in the scene liked it? YES. Lots.
Good as in music that fit the parameters of punk? YES. Lots.
Good as in music that pushed the limits of what could be considered punk? YES. Lots.

Yes, there was good punk rock.

Every genre has its good and not good entries. That's how things go. I'd love to say it wasn't true for certain genres I don't like personally, but even that would be a lie because no matter how much I dislike a genre, there were great examples of it at one time, like it or not.

It's great how art is subjective, isn't it?

 

[Grinderman]

Funny how Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth were often spotted out in L.A. in the '80s at the punk rock shows.

Guess where Eddie got his idea for his famous Strat paint job?

 

[_One//Man//Mutiny_]

Agent Orange was/is great! Living in Darkness being one of the most influential albums to a teenaged bass playing me!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A_lpqX_9P9w

 

[Grinderman]

Simple

 

[Gsnorgathon]

Perhaps my favorite moment as a radio DJ was getting a call from a woman who wanted to talk about "kids and that noise - I can't call it music - that they listen to these days." (For whatever reason, Killing Joke's "S.O. 36" had prompted her to call.) At one point, I said something about how Stravinsky was received back in the day, to which she interrupted "Oh, that's not music either!"

In conclusion, punk rock sucks.

 

[Grinderman]

John Peel knew what rocks.

 

[Grinderman]

This bass rocks.



RIP Tim Wright (Fender Jazz bass player)

 

[pbass2]

Just because something caused a big sensation doesn't mean that it had value. And it seems like the people who went to the concerts were always trying to find some new experience to make them happy. And it never really happened if they still talk about the past.

What do you think.

I think that "And it never really happened if they still talk about the past" makes no sense---what does that even mean?