I should've known when you said "punk" and this bit about no monitors.......now that's Punk Rock, man.
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Way To Go Eden
- Thread starter lustersilk
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I should've known when you said "punk" and this bit about no monitors.......now that's Punk Rock, man.
I use an Eden rig once a week at the rehearsal space, it's cool, but lets' be real here, an SVT 8x10 rig will eat it alive. what kind of "festival" has no FOH even for side stages, sounds like a fish story.
well the 300vt is OBVS not your typical eden. I believe it is actually another brands amp rebadged as eden?
Just to corroborate what the OP was saying. I used to run a small regional sound company andI often got to do fill in duty for the lesser stages at some of these large multi stage events. I always brought my Community 3 ways and some JBL EONs for monitors. (those original Eons were awesome when they came out!). I'd always do a decent basic mix and leave some headroom so the PA wouldn't get muddy sounding. I would also ring out the foldback and make sure the kiddies could here at least vocals and snare.
In tune and on time right?
But when I would wander around and check out the competition, there would be simple 1202+amp+2 mains. Often with a security cover so you couldnt make any adjustment. Basically the 3rd tier bands had to make do with rehearsal hall gear, in an outdoor environment.
I've seen some of these events where the Red Bull booth has a better PA than the 2nd stage!
What do you mean it will eat it alive? I have plenty of SVT through 8x10 experience, but I now play an Eden amp through an Ampeg 8x10, so I know you can't be talking about volume, and certainly not clarity at high volumes.
I dig the SVT, though, just wondering what you mean by getting real?
Martin
Gasp.
Mixed speakers? And the sound went further than 10 yards?
A blasphemous punk band bending the "rules" again.
I've owned and used a lot of Eden gear, and still do. I haven't played any rig that cuts through a stage mix like an 800B and 410XLT. The mids may sound a bit pronounced in the shop, but they're killer on stage! A lot of backline companies supply exactly that rig.
I still have a 550, that doesn't get used a lot, but my XST's are a mainstay.
I still have a 550, that doesn't get used a lot, but my XST's are a mainstay.
Don't forget that the 1st generation of SWR cabinets (Goliath, Redhead & Goliath Jr.) were actually built by Eden. I special ordered both a Redhead (#90) and a Goliath 4X10 and they were actually shipped from the Eden facility in Minnesota. At today's prices a clean 1st generation SWR cab is a steal.
Imagine that. Nothing at all against Ampeg, but I always applaud those who stear away from and use the not-so-norm. I have never used anything Eden, but have heard generally good things about the stuff.
Yep,. that's a fact. I remember seeing a bass player on the UC Davis quad years ago, and noticed that his cabinets looked exactly like SWR cabs, but with a different logo. I asked him what they were and he told me they were Edens.
I dont doubt that. Many flexible heads are stereotyped due to their tone when controls are set visually flat, which might not really be flat at all. Regardless, the Eden players Ive listened to have a different sound than the Ampeg or GK players (myself included) sound. I not sure if its harmonics or what, but my Carvin sounds more Eden-like when I turn up the DRIVE control on it. When I turn DRIVE down and turn up the master, it sounds more GK-like. Edens (and Nemesis) have a distinct sound to them, a very good sound, but not for everybody.
Here's mine
You're in Austin? That sure looks like my old rack case, not that there couldn't be another floating around. Only one handle?
I wish I'd never sold it. If you ever want to unload it, pm me.
Ditto, I was a big time Eden user and sold them when I worked for a local retailer....I was the Eden SWR guy and the other bass player salesmen was the Ampeg guy. After multiple MULTIPLE experiences of getting in NEW GEAR that did not work out of the box, horrid customer service and just a loss of focus...they lost me. I could no longer recommend them as a reliable product. I have heard they have rebounded and that is good to hear. But I think with many of us who were on board in the begining.....it is too little too late. I would still grab any pre "buy out" Eden product from maybe 2004 and earlier....but I have no confidence in any Eden gear after that point. I am really glad to hear others feel the differently.
see, not to be critical, but this is a human disease, not just a bassplayer's disease...... throw more hardware at it.
I see it all the time in computers [my field].... it ain't "cutting it", so go buy more. end up at the same spot.... raise the power. same thing again.
the OP's point, if you let him speak, was that the tone got the job done better than most. more power does not mean more tone to the listener. never has. never will.
I see it all the time in computers [my field].... it ain't "cutting it", so go buy more. end up at the same spot.... raise the power. same thing again.
the OP's point, if you let him speak, was that the tone got the job done better than most. more power does not mean more tone to the listener. never has. never will.
