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What happened to Maroon 5?
- Thread starter t77mackie
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I'm not a fan of corporate entities being involved in the music business, period! Bring back independent radio stations, real live disc jockeys and diverse playlists dictated by the program directors themselves. Payola sucks and I thought it was illegal! I don't listen to new radio. I listen to oldies stations and my mp3 players with the music I like. Moves Like Jagger is on the playlist.
I'm glad we can agree on such an important point.
Wait - I thought you didn't have any time to play!
I don't...ain't nobody got time for that!
They are.
In sports, true greatness is measured not in victories or championships but in how much other teams' fans hate you.
I'm being only half-serious, though.
I don't ascribe to be of any significance in the musical world but anyone with a few million cool can create modern pop rock music.
That's why there is so much. It is very easy to create.
I would disagree on many points.
Besides, Maroon 5 is not only mediocre IMO but if your half-joking view was true, they wouldn't even qualify in that realm because there are dozens of other acts more hated than them.
I agree. One example for me is Esperanza Spalding. Not nearly so much as a bassist but as a musician. Her presence, songwriting, and overall ability as a musician is out of this world - both in talent and in genre-bending sound. When I discovered that, it has significantly altered my conception of live shows and the creation of music. Her live show was a demonstration of how a band, in her words, can "serve" an audience with musical notes that address more than just the sense of hearing. And not from bleeding heart emotion but from intellectual emotion.
She's great, but unfortunately she plays the double bass. Which is a no-no as described earlier in the thread.
Yeah, but, what else are we gonna talk about...
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Found the problem:
On sale at Target!
I guess when it's really profitable to just have your computer crank out some noise one can get really addicted to ever increasing living standards and ego-boosting activities.
She's great, but unfortunately she plays the double bass. Which is a no-no as described earlier in the thread.
She plays both DB and electric bass. She had a black Fender lined fretless. I've seen videos of her with a Jaco one as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_producer
What's funny is the producers (yes, there are many of them) for Maroon 5's new album "Overexposed" (Ironic in purpose I'm sure) credits include songs from just about every AI winner and reject and every bubblegum pop act from the past 20 years.
IMHO, they saw the interest in their group waning and clearly went straight to cookie-cutter to get movement. Nothing new under the sun.
Most songs have more than one producer; half the songs are co-written by an almost uncountable array of people.
It's fun looking into the mechanisms of pop music. It's all a money-machine. Dump millions in, get millions out. "The Voice" said, "hey...Adam, you do something for us, we do something for you...?" Adam: Sure. Plaster my face all over. I tried to explore the intracacies between Maroon 5's record label, NBC, Warner Bros., Universal, etc....but it's very hard. I'm sure there's just a collusion to market the crap out of people like him.
If M5 had a sexy female singer what are the odds that she would be a solo artist by now?
But wait! AI and the Voice and X Factor pumps out 'stars' all the time with maximum exposure and not many of them go anywhere. So maybe M5 really is putting out quality stuff?
I think the remaining big record companies want to make tons of recordings on the cheap and then throw them at us like throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. We are in a singles economy again. All those producers and money at Interscope really screwed up Haley Reinhart. She had a good thing going and the RC tried to turn her into a pop-tart and it just ain't working. Too bad, she was the best thing to come out of any of those shows.
But wait! AI and the Voice and X Factor pumps out 'stars' all the time with maximum exposure and not many of them go anywhere. So maybe M5 really is putting out quality stuff?
I think the remaining big record companies want to make tons of recordings on the cheap and then throw them at us like throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. We are in a singles economy again. All those producers and money at Interscope really screwed up Haley Reinhart. She had a good thing going and the RC tried to turn her into a pop-tart and it just ain't working. Too bad, she was the best thing to come out of any of those shows.
We're artists. Why some care about this stuff so much? Do people think as soon as pop groups are destroyed, the public is going to hustle back to Jazz? (Nothing wrong with jazz, I love Jazz)
Oh man am I going to sound like a hippie. Well...here goes
The big business music guys figured out all they had to do was market music to people and tell them it's good. So they accept. If you like it, I like it.
Old news, very old news. This is how music progresses. It's no big deal. Well it's no big deal until one thinks about the big picture.
Where has pop music been? Where is it going? The claim I'm going to make is going to hurt a lot of feelings. Which I understand, but, deal with it .
Rock killed music. That's right, I said it. Specifically, the Beatles killed music. Those bad boys threw a formula out that no sane businessman could deny. 26 less paychecks out to 26 less musicians. Here's where it gets really real though: Rock doesn't take a lot of skill to play. There are skilled players in Rock, don't get me wrong, but it's just overall easy to play. So as this medium took over, we saw the number of musicians in pop decrease more and more and more. Till Kurt Cobain in the 90s. Rock had hit a new low. (I love Nirvana too, bare with me, I'm trying to make a point. The artists themselves all had good intentions.) Now we are starting do deal with less and less skill, more and more what's called "replaceable parts". What happened was the music industry became saturated with more and more people who believed they can make it.
Essentially they watered down individuals so they can't stand out. Because the audience wants what's cool, and artists have to make their way through "rock stars" who are just kids who love power chords.
Rap was risky but rewarding. Now, you've eliminated 4 stars into 1. And I fear electronic music is just getting started.
/rant
Oh man am I going to sound like a hippie. Well...here goes
The big business music guys figured out all they had to do was market music to people and tell them it's good. So they accept. If you like it, I like it.
Old news, very old news. This is how music progresses. It's no big deal. Well it's no big deal until one thinks about the big picture.
Where has pop music been? Where is it going? The claim I'm going to make is going to hurt a lot of feelings. Which I understand, but, deal with it
. Rock killed music. That's right, I said it. Specifically, the Beatles killed music. Those bad boys threw a formula out that no sane businessman could deny. 26 less paychecks out to 26 less musicians. Here's where it gets really real though: Rock doesn't take a lot of skill to play. There are skilled players in Rock, don't get me wrong, but it's just overall easy to play. So as this medium took over, we saw the number of musicians in pop decrease more and more and more. Till Kurt Cobain in the 90s. Rock had hit a new low. (I love Nirvana too, bare with me, I'm trying to make a point. The artists themselves all had good intentions.) Now we are starting do deal with less and less skill, more and more what's called "replaceable parts". What happened was the music industry became saturated with more and more people who believed they can make it.
Essentially they watered down individuals so they can't stand out. Because the audience wants what's cool, and artists have to make their way through "rock stars" who are just kids who love power chords.
Rap was risky but rewarding. Now, you've eliminated 4 stars into 1. And I fear electronic music is just getting started.
/rant
I know, I was making a joke. Although I do prefer it when she plays the fretless.
