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Winter Build Off 2022 - Get Ready

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A solution for those who can't decide where to leave their guitar.
 
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#522
@Beej
Is the garage a wood structure or cinder block?
Either way, check out what kind of foundation/footer is under the walls. dig a shovel's worth of soil away on the outside and scoop some gravel back from the wall on the inside and see what they did. Unless it's already visible. It might give a few clues as to what kind of floor, if any, used to be in there.
Can you post pics?
 
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RichterScale said:
@Beej
Is the garage a wood structure or cinder block?
Either way, check out what kind of foundation/footer is under the walls. dig a shovel's worth of soil away on the outside and scoop some gravel back from the wall on the inside and see what they did. Unless it's already visible. It might give a few clues as to what kind of floor, if any, used to be in there.
Can you post pics?
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It's a real dog's breakfast. The original structure was made of laminated 2x6 "posts" set into a 6" thick concrete perimeter wall that appears to be around 8" deep with about 3" exposed above ground. This was apparently used by the previous, previous owner to build a boat. Then someone added 2x3 "walls" between the posts and nailed particle board over it. They did a really good job flashing it on the bottom of the wall though, so it's bone dry inside with a solid roof and a 2 foot overhang over the front garage door. I've dug the gravel back in the middle and against the foundation wall in two spots, and in all three areas, there is about 3" of gravel over packed dirt. Packed hard enough to barely get a shovel into it. The middle hole was over where a vehicle track would be as I was curious if there were concrete runners under the wheels, but no, just dirt. The "foundation" is solid, with no cracks or chips anywhere that I can find, and it's sealed up nicely outside, so it should be straightforward to insulate and drywall the interior. If buddy can't pour a new pad over the gravel (seems like it would be easy to just lay rebar down and pour), I'll get stuff and build the dang wood floor. I just don't want it to be springy and can't fit anything more than a 2x6 vertically above the dirt/gravel so I'd prefer concrete. I've already put a lifetime of money into this place, so I'd like to get things functional without an additional 100K if possible. :D
 
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Beej said:
It's a real dog's breakfast. The original structure was made of laminated 2x6 "posts" set into a 6" thick concrete perimeter wall that appears to be around 8" deep with about 3" exposed above ground. This was apparently used by the previous, previous owner to build a boat. Then someone added 2x3 "walls" between the posts and nailed particle board over it. They did a really good job flashing it on the bottom of the wall though, so it's bone dry inside with a solid roof and a 2 foot overhang over the front garage door. I've dug the gravel back in the middle and against the foundation wall in two spots, and in all three areas, there is about 3" of gravel over packed dirt. Packed hard enough to barely get a shovel into it. The middle hole was over where a vehicle track would be as I was curious if there were concrete runners under the wheels, but no, just dirt. The "foundation" is solid, with no cracks or chips anywhere that I can find, and it's sealed up nicely outside, so it should be straightforward to insulate and drywall the interior. If buddy can't pour a new pad over the gravel (seems like it would be easy to just lay rebar down and pour), I'll get stuff and build the dang wood floor. I just don't want it to be springy and can't fit anything more than a 2x6 vertically above the dirt/gravel so I'd prefer concrete. I've already put a lifetime of money into this place, so I'd like to get things functional without an additional 100K if possible. :D
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Are you on the island? If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say the soil up there is a lot of glacial deposits and fine silty stuff. I doubt working on boats and 3" of gravel compacted the soil like that. When that kind of soil dries out, it's almost like rock and that section has been covered for awhile, so it simply dried out. Is it rounded pea gravel, or rough lime stone with fines mixed in?
If it's pea gravel, that stuff sucks. If it's all different sizes with finer stuff and dust mixed in, it can be tamped down to rock hard. You could always level it, tamp it, lay down plastic as a vapor barrier, go over it with thicker plywood and then paint it or throw mats down, etc. If you want to get up and running and not pay for the concrete or the hassle of raising the floor. It won't be flexy and spongy.
If you definitely go with concrete, make sure they score it to control where it cracks.
 
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#527
You could lap joint the plywood and tack it together as a way to secure it without framing. Even glue it and tack it. You'd have a one piece floating floor.
If you ended up with a few soft spots, just drill a 1/4" hole and squirt in a little expanding foam and plug the hole.
Meds are wearing off. I'll have better ideas later.
 
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ctmullins said:
Yeah, like the Pinewood Derby (not sure how relevant that is outside the US, sorry….).
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I did it in Boy Scouts a few times. :woot: Also where I learned to shoot a .22, trap and skin a rabbit, escape an overturned canoe in a river, and camp in the friggin' snow. That last one still carries a little emotion for me to this day. :angel:
 
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I would be down for a kit buildoff at some point. Though mine would probably just end up with a giant bathtub route in the middle so I could test pickups. :D Maybe we could get one of the kit vendors to give us a price break if we had enough people involved.
 
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