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Here's a photo of MY Wishnevsky Banana Bass. A similar photo was removed (edited) by talkbass.com because they thought I was selling it on eBay or elsewhere. I bought it myself on eBAy. THIS IS MY PERSONAL BASS. IT IS NOT FOR SALE!

The second photo shows my recent installation of a K&K Sound Pickup...Highly recommended (and NO, I do not represent K&K Sound) :bassist:
Sir; I know this an old thread, but I just bought a red birch Banana bass and would love to install something like your K&K pup. Can you describe to me how you installed it since there is no real access into the body cavity? Currently I am refinishing mine and just sanding it a lot to refine it. It is starting to feel really good now! I also own a Hyper, a Lobe, and have a Fantasy on order - all 4 strings. Want to get a 5 string Stude or JK someday too. Thanks for your time! - 49sfine ...
 
Sir; I know this an old thread, but I just bought a red birch Banana bass and would love to install something like your K&K pup. Can you describe to me how you installed it since there is no real access into the body cavity? Currently I am refinishing mine and just sanding it a lot to refine it. It is starting to feel really good now! I also own a Hyper, a Lobe, and have a Fantasy on order - all 4 strings. Want to get a 5 string Stude or JK someday too. Thanks for your time! - 49sfine ...

The K&K "Big Twin" pickup works very well with the Banana bass. The two 1/2" transducer heads will be installed just under the saddle/bridge between the E&A and D&G strings. Here's how to install: Cut a 1" diameter hole in the bottom (where an strap button might go)...use a 1" hole saw drill bit (apply masking tape to the surface to prevent splintering). Use a piece of double sided tape...one side taped to your index finger and the other taped to the top side of the pickup head. Spread superglue (gel type) all over the bottom (gold) surface of the pickup head. Slowly guide the pickup head with your finger through the 1" hole and press the pickup head in place just below the bridge and ideally just under the saddle between the E & A strings. Apply pressure for about 30 seconds to allow the glue to set. Then slowly pull your finger (and tape) away. Do the same for the 2nd pickup head...between the D & G strings. Then you will need to make a 2" diameter cover plate (aluminum, plastic, etc.) with a 3/8" hole in the middle and 3 mounting screw holes evenly spaced near the outer edge. Install the endpin jack through the 3/8" hole, drill pilot holes for the mounting screws, and finally install the cover plate. The K&K pickup works very well as a passive pickup, but any outboard preamp (K&K, Fishman, Aguilar, etc.) will provide a bit more headroom.
 
Just wanted to let you know that I enjoyed the pix of your Fantasy. I just ordered one similar to yours except it will be Zebrawood front and back with 2 purpleheart stringers (hopefully) in the neck. I left the rest of the neck woods up to Wish, but I really like the looks of yours - nice! Mine will be short scale, 4 strings, KA pup, rear control and with the pointed end of the headstock on the left, not the right. I ordered it unfinished, of course. - What do you think? Keep us posted on yours and let us have a look when it's done. Thanks!
 
Check the wiring. I have two Wishbasses and they are both dead quiet. When I got the second one it was very noisy and I found that Wish had reversed the hot and ground wires. A little solder work that the bass sounded great.

BTW, nice looking bass. I got mine without finish, sanded them a little and used Tung oil. Wish finds great looking wood.
Sir; I read your comments about switching the leads to reduce or eliminate hum. I am pretty good at doing some things, but I am not sure I would know if mine were reversed. Both my Lobe and Hyper hum too much for my taste. Can you describe in writing what to look for once the control plate is removed? Also, I have a can of the shielding paint from StewMac on order as we speak and plan to use it regardless. Thanks for your help ...
 
Does anyone know what fingerboard woods are good for fretless AND fretted? I have ordered a new Fantasy 4 string and am thinking about ordering it unfinished, short scale, fretless (for now) and perhaps having the option of getting it fretted later (by a local luthier, not Wish). Is that even an option? Is wenge a good wood for this kind of application? Any thoughts? about this? Thanx ...
 
Does anyone know what fingerboard woods are good for fretless AND fretted? I have ordered a new Fantasy 4 string and am thinking about ordering it unfinished, short scale, fretless (for now) and perhaps having the option of getting it fretted later (by a local luthier, not Wish). Is that even an option? Is wenge a good wood for this kind of application? Any thoughts? about this? Thanx ...

I have owned and sold several Wishbasses. In my opinion, dense woods such as purple heart, jatoba and persimmon are the best for fretless OR fretted. Of course, you can't go wrong with ebony. And yes, wenge, would work but it tends to be grainy (requires a lot of sanding for a smooth, even feel). I would highly recommend having Wish install the frets because it would be much more difficult after the bass is completed. By the way, Wish does not perform his own fretwork. His good friend, Gino, does all of his fretwork and he really does an excellent job. I played a fretted "Claw" model he recently sold on eBay and was quite impressed. I was initially concerned that the non-adjustable bridge would prevent proper intonation, but it was perfect.
 
Sir; I read your comments about switching the leads to reduce or eliminate hum. I am pretty good at doing some things, but I am not sure I would know if mine were reversed. Both my Lobe and Hyper hum too much for my taste. Can you describe in writing what to look for once the control plate is removed? Also, I have a can of the shielding paint from StewMac on order as we speak and plan to use it regardless. Thanks for your help ...

In some cases, the EMG Select J-Bass pickup wiring is indeed reversed. I haven't experienced this with the Kent Armstrong soapbar pickups. If you end up reversing the leads, I would recommend buying a new CTS 500k ohm volume pot for about $5 (stewmac or has-sound sells them) and having someone solder it for you if you are not confident in doing it yourself. You will always get some hum from standard single coil pickups. Wish should consider installing a J-Bass 2-pup set and wiring both to the one volume pot (or two separate volume controls). The reverse wiring (polarity) of the two pickups when used together will cancel the hum.
 
In some cases, the EMG Select J-Bass pickup wiring is indeed reversed. I haven't experienced this with the Kent Armstrong soapbar pickups. If you end up reversing the leads, I would recommend buying a new CTS 500k ohm volume pot for about $5 (stewmac or has-sound sells them) and having someone solder it for you if you are not confident in doing it yourself. You will always get some hum from standard single coil pickups. Wish should consider installing a J-Bass 2-pup set and wiring both to the one volume pot (or two separate volume controls). The reverse wiring (polarity) of the two pickups when used together will cancel the hum.
Okay, I get all of that, thanx. But, is there a quick, visual way to know if Wish reversed the leads just by looking at things once the control plate is off? - Or do you just switch the leads around and see if there is improvement (I haven't taken my plates off yet to look inside, but will soon)?
 
is there a quick, visual way to know if Wish reversed the leads just by looking at things once the control plate is off?

yes. from the pickup, there is a center conductor that's insulated. This should go to the volume pot's lugs, then on to the tip connector of the output jack. There's also a wire shield, either braided or spiral wrapped, around the center conductor. This gets soldered to ground, typically the body of the volume pot on wish's basses. This then goes to the sleeve connector of the output jack.
 
... I've heard both good and bad things about his fret jobs so, who knows.

Since speed is Wish's forte', I'm envisioning that the slots are cut with a Radial Arm Saw with a blade of the proper kerf. We need a spy video posted on YouTube!!!

I'd go sans lines personally... I'm not a fretless player but the times I've dabbled in it, I find that my ear guides me as well as the lines ever would. Side dots would be mandatory (for me) but no lines.
 
Since speed is Wish's forte', I'm envisioning that the slots are cut with a Radial Arm Saw with a blade of the proper kerf. We need a spy video posted on YouTube!!!

I'd go sans lines personally... I'm not a fretless player but the times I've dabbled in it, I find that my ear guides me as well as the lines ever would. Side dots would be mandatory (for me) but no lines.
I think I'm with you- no fret lines. A bass player buddy of mine who plays a Carvin bass in our blues band swears by the lines (some kind of paint I think) on his fretless, but I think they distract from the look of the neck. Oh well ...
 
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I just discovered this club and it prompted me to register with TB. I read the first 10 pages or so, then jumped to the end, so if I discuss stuff that has already been covered here, I apologize. I just don't have the time to read all 46 pages :-)

I am very fond of all four of my Wishbasses. So much has been said in defense of Wish and his basses, much of it with great civility and eloquence by BassdudeSA, that I won't spend anytime there. But I have some opinions ya know.

Side dots. Yep, they can be right on or goofy. Personally I think he measures the octave and eyeballs the rest, but no matter. I have found FretFX to be an outstanding tool for playing the fretless. They are LED's that mark your frets. Even if the nails are in the perfect position, I still find them hard to read. When I installed my first LED's my intonation improved dramatically, immediately. The LED's also have a marker at the first fret, unbelievably helpful. FretFX has a website, so I won't go into detail here. If you scroll down the testimonials page you will find a picture of my Scroll Wishbass with the LED's all lit up. (FWIW I am a satisfied customer, not a paid endorser!)

Floating Corian bridge. I have read skepticism about the floating bridge. "how do set the intonation? how do you adjust the action?" I have found Corian to be an excellent material for the nut and the bridge. I have found that with a slight angle, shorter at the G, longer at the E, you can slide the nut back and forth till you find a reasonably good intonation. get out your tuner and experiment. Adjusting the action is a little more difficult. The first time I wanted to try lowering the action, I filed down the bridge a little, and tested it. Thought I could go lower so I repeated. Each time I lowered the action I liked it better, so I kept going. I know, in retrospect I don't seem too bright do I. After the fourth reduction, the action was too low, and I found unfiling the bridge to be unsuccessful :-) Emailed Wish and he sent me another bridge for free. This time, I filed it down in steps. One level for each string at the original height, next to that a step down for each string, and there was room for one more step down. This allows some variation for different strings, different moods, whatever. Just loosen the strings and slide the bridge to the side for whichever height I seek. Then I discovered wood epoxy. Cheap at my local hardware store. I have fashioned my own bridges to use as templates. Form the epoxy with your fingers, cure it on wax paper, with the paper forming your flat side, and it makes a pretty decent bridge. The good thing is you can inexpensively make a bunch, form or file to many different sizes, and when you find the perfect one, use it as a model, and file your corian bridge to match the Wood epoxy mock up. I have been playing one of my WB's with an epoxy bridge for months now, I forgot it was on there, it has no noticeable degradation of tone.

The finish. I have derived great pleasure from finishing all my Wishbasses. Wether you get it with a finish, or in white, (no finish) I would count on finishing your wishbass. This does not take great skill. It is much easier if you start with an unfinished bass, but I highly recommend that you finish your bass yourself. Take off the strings, remove the electronics, buy a mixed wood file set, and lots of sandpaper, from about 120 grit down to 1000 grit. Use the file for the roughest stuff. I had to take down about an 1/8 of an inch on some of my joins. Then sand it, and sand it, and sand it. I usually put only about 4-5 hours total of sanding time til I think it's good enuf. I finish the body down to about 600 grit, but the neck I like to take to 1000. Soft as a baby's butt. The best look I find, if you not a pro with a pressure spray, is to hand rub your finish. I've heard good things about TruOil. i have used a Tung oil/Polyeurothane blend, an old cotton sock, about 10-12 coats with a 0000 steel wool buff between coats. Looks lovey, and it's easy.

Electronics. Pickups are a very personal thing. I simply don't care for EMG selects in most applications I have heard them in. All my Wishbasses have EMG actives in them. The 35P, DC, TW, and CS. Regardless, there are MANY options out there that most of us will like better than the EMG selects. BassdudeSA seems to have found his answer with the quarter pounder. I would count on upgrading the pickups, unless you get one with the Kent Armstrong that Wish sometimes uses. That Pickup kicks out the jams.

IMHO, the secret to a successful Wishbass, is to make it your own. Wish provides you with an awesome infrastructure, his necks are astounding. Just know that you will most likely want to have your own hand in making it reach it's true potential, and suit your needs. So I suggest, before he retires, buy a Wishbass, give it some loving elbow grease and some extra cash for electronics, spend your time playing music and staying "stupidly happy" and DON'T waste any energy on the trash talking Wish haters.

But, I do have one last observation about the haters. Some seem to respond as if Wish is trying to rip them off, or scam them in some way. As if he promised them an Alembic and delivered far less. Wish lays it all right on the line on his website. READ IT haters! Almost every complaint they have, Wish addresses specifically in his mission statement. He recommends that you buy his basses in white, and finish yourself. He, stresses the rough nature of the finishes and advises they are not for everybody. He places tone and playability above fit and finish. And when he screws up, and he has with me on a few things, I have found that by approaching him with civility, and common courtesy, he has ALWAYS made things right. And then he thanks me for being nice about it. I can only guess that if I called him an F***ing A**hole who sold me a POS, that he might not be as helpful.

Anyway, I reiterate: It's not about Wish, and how good or bad his basses are, it's about musical expression, and whatever helps you there...............
 
I just discovered this club and it prompted me to register with TB. I read the first 10 pages or so, then jumped to the end, so if I discuss stuff that has already been covered here, I apologize. I just don't have the time to read all 46 pages :-)

I am very fond of all four of my Wishbasses. So much has been said in defense of Wish and his basses, much of it with great civility and eloquence by BassdudeSA, that I won't spend anytime there. But I have some opinions ya know.

Side dots. Yep, they can be right on or goofy. Personally I think he measures the octave and eyeballs the rest, but no matter. I have found FretFX to be an outstanding tool for playing the fretless. They are LED's that mark your frets. Even if the nails are in the perfect position, I still find them hard to read. When I installed my first LED's my intonation improved dramatically, immediately. The LED's also have a marker at the first fret, unbelievably helpful. FretFX has a website, so I won't go into detail here. If you scroll down the testimonials page you will find a picture of my Scroll Wishbass with the LED's all lit up. (FWIW I am a satisfied customer, not a paid endorser!)

Floating Corian bridge. I have read skepticism about the floating bridge. "how do set the intonation? how do you adjust the action?" I have found Corian to be an excellent material for the nut and the bridge. I have found that with a slight angle, shorter at the G, longer at the E, you can slide the nut back and forth till you find a reasonably good intonation. get out your tuner and experiment. Adjusting the action is a little more difficult. The first time I wanted to try lowering the action, I filed down the bridge a little, and tested it. Thought I could go lower so I repeated. Each time I lowered the action I liked it better, so I kept going. I know, in retrospect I don't seem too bright do I. After the fourth reduction, the action was too low, and I found unfiling the bridge to be unsuccessful :-) Emailed Wish and he sent me another bridge for free. This time, I filed it down in steps. One level for each string at the original height, next to that a step down for each string, and there was room for one more step down. This allows some variation for different strings, different moods, whatever. Just loosen the strings and slide the bridge to the side for whichever height I seek. Then I discovered wood epoxy. Cheap at my local hardware store. I have fashioned my own bridges to use as templates. Form the epoxy with your fingers, cure it on wax paper, with the paper forming your flat side, and it makes a pretty decent bridge. The good thing is you can inexpensively make a bunch, form or file to many different sizes, and when you find the perfect one, use it as a model, and file your corian bridge to match the Wood epoxy mock up. I have been playing one of my WB's with an epoxy bridge for months now, I forgot it was on there, it has no noticeable degradation of tone.

The finish. I have derived great pleasure from finishing all my Wishbasses. Wether you get it with a finish, or in white, (no finish) I would count on finishing your wishbass. This does not take great skill. It is much easier if you start with an unfinished bass, but I highly recommend that you finish your bass yourself. Take off the strings, remove the electronics, buy a mixed wood file set, and lots of sandpaper, from about 120 grit down to 1000 grit. Use the file for the roughest stuff. I had to take down about an 1/8 of an inch on some of my joins. Then sand it, and sand it, and sand it. I usually put only about 4-5 hours total of sanding time til I think it's good enuf. I finish the body down to about 600 grit, but the neck I like to take to 1000. Soft as a baby's butt. The best look I find, if you not a pro with a pressure spray, is to hand rub your finish. I've heard good things about TruOil. i have used a Tung oil/Polyeurothane blend, an old cotton sock, about 10-12 coats with a 0000 steel wool buff between coats. Looks lovey, and it's easy.

Electronics. Pickups are a very personal thing. I simply don't care for EMG selects in most applications I have heard them in. All my Wishbasses have EMG actives in them. The 35P, DC, TW, and CS. Regardless, there are MANY options out there that most of us will like better than the EMG selects. BassdudeSA seems to have found his answer with the quarter pounder. I would count on upgrading the pickups, unless you get one with the Kent Armstrong that Wish sometimes uses. That Pickup kicks out the jams.

IMHO, the secret to a successful Wishbass, is to make it your own. Wish provides you with an awesome infrastructure, his necks are astounding. Just know that you will most likely want to have your own hand in making it reach it's true potential, and suit your needs. So I suggest, before he retires, buy a Wishbass, give it some loving elbow grease and some extra cash for electronics, spend your time playing music and staying "stupidly happy" and DON'T waste any energy on the trash talking Wish haters.

But, I do have one last observation about the haters. Some seem to respond as if Wish is trying to rip them off, or scam them in some way. As if he promised them an Alembic and delivered far less. Wish lays it all right on the line on his website. READ IT haters! Almost every complaint they have, Wish addresses specifically in his mission statement. He recommends that you buy his basses in white, and finish yourself. He, stresses the rough nature of the finishes and advises they are not for everybody. He places tone and playability above fit and finish. And when he screws up, and he has with me on a few things, I have found that by approaching him with civility, and common courtesy, he has ALWAYS made things right. And then he thanks me for being nice about it. I can only guess that if I called him an F***ing A**hole who sold me a POS, that he might not be as helpful.

Anyway, I reiterate: It's not about Wish, and how good or bad his basses are, it's about musical expression, and whatever helps you there...............
 

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