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Worlds First Drum Machine in Pedal Form!

#122
I agree. Option 1 is pretty worthless to me. Options 2 and 3 are both nice.

Here's the thing...why not just have it be compatible with a 3-button footswitch and a TRS cable? Then you have Tip=one off, Ring=advance song, Tip+Ring=tap tempo.

Michael Henson said:
I like options 2 and 3. Almost so much that I don't want to have to choose... :hiding:
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#125
DavidPackouz said:
We're working on a system for dual footswitch. There's been some argument over what the best function would be for the second footswitch. Our current options:

1. A second 'one off' sound.
2. A song advance feature so you can move to the next song without having to bend down and fiddle with the BeatBuddy.
3. A dedicated tap tempo footswitch so you don't have to bend down and hit the tap button to enter tap tempo mode.

I'd love to get everyone's vote on this! Or any other suggestions.
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I don't know much about how these things work, admittedly, but would it be at all possible to take inspiration from the TC Ditto Looper and have that second footswitch be multi-functional?

For instance, one could press and hold on the switch to move to the next song or just tap on it normally to program tap tempo.

I dunno. Just thinking out loud! :hyper:
 
#129
shwashwa said:
can we hear samples of the preloaded jazz grooves to see if they actually swing?
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We're still engineering the hardware so not that much content has been integrated yet. But if you want to hear some of the content that will be on the BeatBuddy, check out GoranGrooves.com -- they're making our content.
 
#130
Yurtra said:
I don't know much about how these things work, admittedly, but would it be at all possible to take inspiration from the TC Ditto Looper and have that second footswitch have multi-functionality?

For instance, one could press and hold on the switch to move to the next song or just tap on it normally to program tap tempo.

I dunno. Just thinking out loud! :hyper:
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I like that idea! This solves it nicely. Thanks!
 
#133
I realize you are getting a TON of suggestions that you could integrate, and this could easily get out of hand with suggestions from every direction. I like that you guys are including MIDI.

I would really like to advocate for my idea of doing a TRS-capable 3-footswitch idea above. It seems to me that you could even do that AND the "hold down" for more options. Maybe I misunderstand the electronics, though.

DavidPackouz said:
I like that idea! This solves it nicely. Thanks!
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#134
Adamixoye said:
I realize you are getting a TON of suggestions that you could integrate, and this could easily get out of hand with suggestions from every direction. I like that you guys are including MIDI.

I would really like to advocate for my idea of doing a TRS-capable 3-footswitch idea above. It seems to me that you could even do that AND the "hold down" for more options. Maybe I misunderstand the electronics, though.
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Switches that do functions like "holding down" are generally momentary style switches with an electrical relay attached to tell the pedal what to do for each function. A switching pedal like that would require much more than a TRS style connection and would require input power of some sort for the relays, so you wouldn't be able to just pick up any old footswitch and make it work. A dual standard latching footswitch that controlled two functions could be cool and not too complicated to implement I wouldn't think.
 
#136
Hmm...I have a Digitech FS3X controlling my Pitchfactor. 3-button TRS system. My understanding was that this switch is "momentary." It performs toggle-style functions (scrolling through banks, turn on tuner, etc.), but I can assign the "Flex Switch" function to any of them, and then holding onto the switch keeps the function engaged. So it's more than just a discrete signal---you can keep the signal engaged.

I fail to understand why this wouldn't work.

sunbeast said:
Switches that do functions like "holding down" are generally momentary style switches with an electrical relay attached to tell the pedal what to do for each function. A switching pedal like that would require much more than a TRS style connection and would require input power of some sort for the relays, so you wouldn't be able to just pick up any old footswitch and make it work. A dual standard latching footswitch that controlled two functions could be cool and not too complicated to implement I wouldn't think.
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#137
Adamixoye said:
Hmm...I have a Digitech FS3X controlling my Pitchfactor. 3-button TRS system. My understanding was that this switch is "momentary." It performs toggle-style functions (scrolling through banks, turn on tuner, etc.), but I can assign the "Flex Switch" function to any of them, and then holding onto the switch keeps the function engaged. So it's more than just a discrete signal---you can keep the signal engaged.

I fail to understand why this wouldn't work.
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You are correct that it is possible- the relay aspect must be built in to the Pitchfactor. But holding to keep an effect engaged is different than holding to select a different function. all a TRS cord can do with 3 different switches is open and close a single common connection for each. There has to be something to differentiate the effect of holding vs tapping. My guess is that would be a fairly big deal to add into a decidedly compact pedal like this drum machine, but maybe worth it- it just might not function as well then with a more common latching switch.
 
#138
Well I don't know if it's easy or not, but it certainly seems possible. I understand that the TRS can only send three signals, but it can send them each for an indefinite period of time(?) while engaged, and it is possible for a pedal to interpret them differently. As I said earlier, we're building quite the wish list for this pedal, and it will be up to the builder how much they want to implement.

Also, I own an extra FS3X and would love for it to be compatible with the pedal. So I'm biased.

sunbeast said:
You are correct that it is possible- the relay aspect must be built in to the Pitchfactor. But holding to keep an effect engaged is different than holding to select a different function. all a TRS cord can do with 3 different switches is open and close a single common connection for each. There has to be something to differentiate the effect of holding vs tapping. My guess is that would be a fairly big deal to add into a decidedly compact pedal like this drum machine, but maybe worth it- it just might not function as well then with a more common latching switch.
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#139
DavidPackouz said:
We're still engineering the hardware so not that much content has been integrated yet. But if you want to hear some of the content that will be on the BeatBuddy, check out GoranGrooves.com -- they're making our content.
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i checked out the site and find it contains alot of info. can you point me specifically to samples of the content they will be making for you? is it possible for me to hear the jazz clips? any jazz i found on their site was straight 8ths feel, no swing
 

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