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Would you quit this band?

Hey All,

I've been struggling with whether to leave a band I've been a part of for over four years. I think I know the answer, but some input from my fellow musicians would be much appreciated.

It's an original band - well, a singer-songwriter + me and a drummer. We're not included in the writing process, although we do have a hand in the arranging.

Here's the dilemma: I love the music - it's been one of the most musically fulfilling projects I've been a part of, but we're in the same place now as we were four years ago. The writer basically refuses to do any promo/social media/interweb stuff (and will not support the other 2 people doing any of it either - after I built facebook and myspace band pages and populated them with several hundred "fans", he deleted them shortly thereafter because he didn't feel they were necessary) and insists that the music alone will bring the people to us. Which it obviously hasn't.

We're expected to share in the costs (rehearsal, gear rental, travel expenses, etc.) yet if we do get paid for a show, he keeps that money. It's been made clear that I'm replaceable and he has used subs in the past when I've been unavailable for a gig (we gig an average of once a month).

The last four rehearsals have been canceled by either him or the drummer (twice while I've been en route to said rehearsal), yet this evening, right after the drummer canceled the rehearsal yet again, he blamed me for not having enough time to rehearse with the band. I'm generally available 3-4 nights a week to rehearse (I gig with other "working" bands as well).

I'm continually frustrated by the situation, and our personalities are not that complimentary, to say the least. If it weren't for the music, I'd have been gone within the first 6 months. I feel that the considerable amount of time I've put in is not being appreciated, I'm spending money to be in this "band", and we're playing the same rooms as we were when we started.

Reading over this, it's fairly obvious that I need to leave, but I've put so much time in, really do like the music (and although it's the most important aspect, that is the only aspect I like), and feel guilty about leaving.

Am I being a whiny little b@#$%, or is it really time to cut my losses and move on?

You have my gratitude if you've taken the time to read through this mini-novel, haha!

Jeremy
 
No offense, Jeremy, but what the heck are you still doing in that band?! If you're acting essentially as a hired gun (which is what he tells you you are) you should be getting paid no matter for gigs and you shouldn't be paying a cent towards anything band related that isn't your own gear. And how the heck does he expect the music to bring people when he's throwing people away who like the band's web pages and obviously must like the music at least a little? I would of bailed after the webpage thing. It's obvious he has no clue what he's doing, and that he doesn't respect you any.
 
Lets see singer with bad attitude, takes all the gig cash, demands you to work around his schedule, will not market or do legwork in an originals band thats going no where...but the music is good? Hummmmmm..Ok...Time to go..Now!
 
It is certainly time to go. You must have learned a great deal from the songwriter in the time you spent on this project, sounds like it's time to get something you are happy with on all levels. I struggle with some of what you mention, but for me there are core ideals that need to be coherent in order to have a functional relationship in a band. First being that all of you can coexist and have respect for one another. That is clearly not the case here. The others being that your happy with the music, and that practices and gigging can be fun. Doesn't sound like that is the norm either.

Time to move on...
 
Stay in the act as a paid gun. Rehearsals = paid. Gigs = paid. Expenses = his problem. If he wants to call all the shots, be a prima dona and treat you like a replaceable employee, cool. Just make sure he pays you for the privilege.

There's plenty of good music out there. This guy is not that special.
 
Yeah dude, time to check out.

The music might be fulfilling, but the albatross that is the S-S will keep the project in the basement for the rest of time.

His inability to grasp the importance - nay - necessity of an online presence will ensure his music will forever languish in the obscurity of the originals bog. His attitude will ensure he never has musicians talented enough to perform them to their fullest potential.

Move on, and find something where you are given the respect you deserve.

I would suggest that you stick around long enough for him to say 'you're replaceable' again, then tell him he can do just that and he can shove his attitude up his @$$.
 
Stay in the act as a paid gun. Rehearsals = paid. Gigs = paid. Expenses = his problem. If he wants to call all the shots, be a prima dona and treat you like a replaceable employee, cool. Just make sure he pays you for the privilege.

That's what i would try. If you like the music so much, it gives you a way to stay in. Win win for you...stay and get paid.

If he refuses, you can't say you didn't try to make it work. I'd leave.
 
Yeah dude, time to check out.

The music might be fulfilling, but the albatross that is the S-S will keep the project in the basement for the rest of time.

And if lightning did strike and this band made it big.....You already said he gets your gig money, you think that will change. He'll replace your ass fast. So give him a choice, split everything evenly except songwriting royalties. Or pay you like an employee. He won't do either so.......hop on the bus Gus, make a new plan Stan....you get the idea. Good luck
 
We're expected to share in the costs (rehearsal, gear rental, travel expenses, etc.) yet if we do get paid for a show, he keeps that money. It's been made clear that I'm replaceable and he has used subs in the past when I've been unavailable for a gig (we gig an average of once a month).

Without considering anything else, this alone should tell you to walk.
You guys are sharing expenses, but he is keeping all the profits? I wouldnt waste another second.
 

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