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Your Opinion on 8x10's
- Thread starter EvolLove13
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There is some psycho-acoustics at play as well. The magnitude of the wave might not be larger, but the size/shape of the wave front is perceived at "bigger" when you are standing up close to your rig. That may not translate to anything differently out in the room, but that isn't surprising.
Speaker coupling effect...Two sounds prettier and smoother than one, and every doubling of the driver count results in a slight increase in volume in the lows...I forget how much, but it's noticeable.
My Ampeg SVT and 8x10 is the best bass amp I have ever used. It's from 1983, and I bought it new. It has a deep punchy tone that I've never heard from other rigs. It sounds great in any size or type of room.
When the five night gigs and house band gigs turned into weekends and one nighters, I used my SVT with 2 1x15 JBL cabs; but only because it was easier to move. Now I'm primarily using a SVT3-pro with a 4x10; for the same reason.
When the five night gigs and house band gigs turned into weekends and one nighters, I used my SVT with 2 1x15 JBL cabs; but only because it was easier to move. Now I'm primarily using a SVT3-pro with a 4x10; for the same reason.
There are no 810he's. The H denotes a tweeter, and I can only remember one 810 Ampeg's made with a tweeter (though I forget the name), and it wasn't made long.
And yes, they're really good...that's why you see them so often. But for my money, nothing touches the Heritage 810e except for the original flatback 810's from 1969-74, and they don't handle the extreme power that the Heritage handles. Not that I need that kind of power handling, but it's nice to have if you do.
Wasn't it something with a "pro" designation? I know I have seen a picture but cant remember the name.
Search me. That was a period where I just got an old SVT/810 and didn't really care about what new stuff they had because I couldn't afford it anyway 
Yeah i think the 810pro was ported and tweetered. Remember seeing one at a gc aboit 10 years ago. It was also heavier than the 810e
Yeah I thought they were like 200 pounds or so.
That's cool...it happens.
Well while I use the regular 810e's on my fly gigs and they sound great, I bought a Heritage because people who had experience with both told me it sounded better. I wasn't prepared for it to be a dead ringer tonewise for my 73 SVT 810, though. Very much worth the extra money. There's not even a debate about it.
So I think I am the only one who uses and likes the Tecamp L 810'' - cabs. I have two of them, one for about 2 years, the second one was bought for me from my second band, because they did not like my 2 x Peavey TVX 410''- fullstack. They liked it soundwise, but wanted to make me look more professional, like in the other band. OK, who am I to refuse their dreams......
The second cab is for free, except a promise to stay another 2 years with the band. If they want to kick me out the cab is mine. So I had two of this cabs on stage during this summer on the open air festivals we played. What can I say.... Wow!
The first Tecamp L 810 gets fired up by a GenzBenz GBE 1200. I love this combination, with some clues from KJung and agedhorse I learned how to get a real fine overdriven sound out of this rig by using both pres of the GBE 1200.
On the second one there is an Ampeg SVP Pro plus a poweramp that brings out 2 x 450 Watt @ Ohm, 2 x 700 Watt @ 4 Ohm and 1200 Watt @ 4 Ohm bridged. The sound of the pre/poweramp combination is well known by many members of talkbass, and as a poweramp is supposed to make things loud and nothing more, this is the sound I have. I love the sound when the pre gets a lot of gain and the tubes go into saturation.
I decidet to get the second Tecamp L 810'' after two weeks heavy testing. I had some Tecamp cabs to make my decision, 2 x L 410, 2 x L 212'' and a monster of a can called "Bad Cab". This one sports 2 x 15'', 2 x 12'' and 4 x 10'' speaker together with two tweedters. Wow, what a beast! But this one is more for amps with not that much sauce basswise. I would love to hear it with a Tecamp Raptor or another modern sounding tube-amp. OK, there is a Raptor-cab as well, but this one "only" has the half ammount of woofers: 1 x 15'', 1 x 12'', 2 x 10''.
The L 810'' is ported, the lowest section has the ports. This gives you a huge advantage of low end, so I have to cut this massive, no matter what amp I use. It was imipossible for me to use the 2 x L 410''-fullstack, because there is one port per cab, and even more low end you have to cut. I recommend the L 410'' as a standalone cab. The L 212''-fullstack was sweet, but I liked the sound of the L 810'' much better.
The best cab was the L 810'', and it is a beast of a cab. 2.400 Watt RMS @ 4 Ohms, switchable to 16 Ohms. The cab is also available in Ohms. SPL-rating is 105 dB, there is a tweeter with the Tecamp "Tweeter-Switching-System", you have a knob, located in the handle-caving with 3 x smooth highs and 2 x agressive highs, they change the crossover-point between the two tweeter-modi. You are able to switch out the tweeter, and this is the way I use the cab. It has tiltback casters, you can handle it fine, and did I say it only has 86 lbs? Well, thats a light one!
I love this 810''-cab. I have to say, that it is a more a modern sounding cab, not only due to the neodym-woofers.
Here is a link to the site of Tecamp, if someone is interested. Link Removed
For a more oldschool - sound I prefer an old 410''-cab in 8 Ohms a musicshop in my aerea did built 30 years ago. It is made in the specs of an Ampeg flatback - 810'', cut into half. I don't know, what speakers are in the cab, but I was told that he used the original speakers Ampeg used in this time.
I was able to a/b it with a flatback some years ago, and the cabs sound realy very, very similar. The 410'' does not have all the "sound - pressure" you feel in your back from the 810'', but for medium loud gigs with a vintage sound this is my cab to go.
Next thing I will purchase is an Ampeg V4 B reissue, this amp will match beautiful with this cab. I own the cab for 30 years now. I had many tubeamps over the years for rent, and with all of them the cab soundet real sweet. Yes, there was a SVT on the cab about 4 years ago. Great!
A long time I used this cab as an extension cab for my GallienKrueger 200 MB, killer sound! And loud enough to play with two guitards with Fender Twin Reverbs and a loud drummer in a Punk-Rock-Band. After that the cab was used together with my SWR Redhead, it gave the combo the smooth mids SWR-amps lack a bit imho. Never will give this cab away!
The second cab is for free, except a promise to stay another 2 years with the band. If they want to kick me out the cab is mine. So I had two of this cabs on stage during this summer on the open air festivals we played. What can I say.... Wow!
The first Tecamp L 810 gets fired up by a GenzBenz GBE 1200. I love this combination, with some clues from KJung and agedhorse I learned how to get a real fine overdriven sound out of this rig by using both pres of the GBE 1200.
On the second one there is an Ampeg SVP Pro plus a poweramp that brings out 2 x 450 Watt @ Ohm, 2 x 700 Watt @ 4 Ohm and 1200 Watt @ 4 Ohm bridged. The sound of the pre/poweramp combination is well known by many members of talkbass, and as a poweramp is supposed to make things loud and nothing more, this is the sound I have. I love the sound when the pre gets a lot of gain and the tubes go into saturation.
I decidet to get the second Tecamp L 810'' after two weeks heavy testing. I had some Tecamp cabs to make my decision, 2 x L 410, 2 x L 212'' and a monster of a can called "Bad Cab". This one sports 2 x 15'', 2 x 12'' and 4 x 10'' speaker together with two tweedters. Wow, what a beast! But this one is more for amps with not that much sauce basswise. I would love to hear it with a Tecamp Raptor or another modern sounding tube-amp. OK, there is a Raptor-cab as well, but this one "only" has the half ammount of woofers: 1 x 15'', 1 x 12'', 2 x 10''.
The L 810'' is ported, the lowest section has the ports. This gives you a huge advantage of low end, so I have to cut this massive, no matter what amp I use. It was imipossible for me to use the 2 x L 410''-fullstack, because there is one port per cab, and even more low end you have to cut. I recommend the L 410'' as a standalone cab. The L 212''-fullstack was sweet, but I liked the sound of the L 810'' much better.
The best cab was the L 810'', and it is a beast of a cab. 2.400 Watt RMS @ 4 Ohms, switchable to 16 Ohms. The cab is also available in Ohms. SPL-rating is 105 dB, there is a tweeter with the Tecamp "Tweeter-Switching-System", you have a knob, located in the handle-caving with 3 x smooth highs and 2 x agressive highs, they change the crossover-point between the two tweeter-modi. You are able to switch out the tweeter, and this is the way I use the cab. It has tiltback casters, you can handle it fine, and did I say it only has 86 lbs? Well, thats a light one!
I love this 810''-cab. I have to say, that it is a more a modern sounding cab, not only due to the neodym-woofers.
Here is a link to the site of Tecamp, if someone is interested. Link Removed
For a more oldschool - sound I prefer an old 410''-cab in 8 Ohms a musicshop in my aerea did built 30 years ago. It is made in the specs of an Ampeg flatback - 810'', cut into half. I don't know, what speakers are in the cab, but I was told that he used the original speakers Ampeg used in this time.
I was able to a/b it with a flatback some years ago, and the cabs sound realy very, very similar. The 410'' does not have all the "sound - pressure" you feel in your back from the 810'', but for medium loud gigs with a vintage sound this is my cab to go.
Next thing I will purchase is an Ampeg V4 B reissue, this amp will match beautiful with this cab. I own the cab for 30 years now. I had many tubeamps over the years for rent, and with all of them the cab soundet real sweet. Yes, there was a SVT on the cab about 4 years ago. Great!
A long time I used this cab as an extension cab for my GallienKrueger 200 MB, killer sound! And loud enough to play with two guitards with Fender Twin Reverbs and a loud drummer in a Punk-Rock-Band. After that the cab was used together with my SWR Redhead, it gave the combo the smooth mids SWR-amps lack a bit imho. Never will give this cab away!
Tecamp stuff isn't real common in the US, and it's pretty expensive by the time it gets here.
If your builder used the original speakers from a flatback, no doubt that's one kickass 410, though. Those CTS alnico speakers rock hard.
If your builder used the original speakers from a flatback, no doubt that's one kickass 410, though. Those CTS alnico speakers rock hard.
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find a SWR Megoliath...awesome cab and able to split if ever using a dual power amp....just another thought.
I'll tell ya one thing. With most of 'em, you can use a wood saw to cut the back panel off, then you can get a whole body in the back. Easier to do with a deeper cabinet of course, and getting fatter bodies in can be a challenge, but then all you have to do is use Gorilla Glue to stick the back on and you're done. It can really save your ass in a pinch!
Um, good point? I certainly am not going to argue with someone who can think that up, that's for sure!
