I'm running mine off of the power supply that came with my Gator Bone pedalboard...not sure of the specifications of it, but it's Gator and it works fine.
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Zoom MS-60B announced... at last
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I'm running mine off of the power supply that came with my Gator Bone pedalboard...not sure of the specifications of it, but it's Gator and it works fine.
How many mA is your one spot? I found some more info. The gator power supply is 250mA pet outlet. The zoom website specifies 500mA for this pedal, but it specifies the same size for the B3 also.
Surely 250mA would run the 60B fully?
This is one case where buying new from a store with a generous return policy and keeping your receipt, is a really good idea.
Not all 250ma (or 500ma) power supplies are created equal. Some people have reported under-powering the MS-60B without issue, while others have had problems. Unless you're an electronics technician who knows how to break into a power chain with a voltmeter, the safest bet is to either buy matched power adapters for each device on your board, or buy more expensive brick style devices that guarantee regulated, isolated output at all the voltages and current capacities you need.
If you want to simplify your setup, then by all means experiment within reason. However, be aware that not all power supplies are regulated. I've seen cheap high-capacity power supplies that provided a solid 9V when loaded down with the right combination of devices, but zoomed to 14V or even 18V when used with just 1 or 2 analog pedals.
I've also seen un-isolated supplies with relatively light filtering (cough, older one-spots, cough...) that worked great with some pedal combinations, and got noisy with others. People sometimes ditch noisy pedals, when the problem is actually the power supply...
FWIW, I'm using a Diago Micropower 9v chain with three other pedals, no problems.
On the effects side, I'm still rocking the amp sounds quite a bit, esp PB Ol Skool then switching to an SVT setup for later sets. But I'm starting to find more live use with the filters, as well. Even The Owl!
I'm also thinking I might just use the single 60b to replace my "beater" pedal board (four boss pedals: tuner, compressor, octave, overdrive). Soooooooo much in that one little stomp.
On the effects side, I'm still rocking the amp sounds quite a bit, esp PB Ol Skool then switching to an SVT setup for later sets. But I'm starting to find more live use with the filters, as well. Even The Owl!
I'm also thinking I might just use the single 60b to replace my "beater" pedal board (four boss pedals: tuner, compressor, octave, overdrive). Soooooooo much in that one little stomp.
After all, I own a MS-60B and a B3. I first owned a B3, sold it because if it's complexity (could not adapt it quick enough on live stage conditions) and got a MS-60B. Then I was offered a used B3 much below the price of a MS-60B, so I could not refuse it. When I compared the "sound" of the pedals at the same settings I found out the B3 is slightly coloring the sound of the bass, while the 60B is completely "neutral" and has no sound coloring. Maybe an issue of different D/A or output stages.
Finally: the MS-60B is one of four pedals along with my other (analog) pedals on my board. I put the 60B in a blender loop, so I can can fade the Zoom effect signal softly into the original sound. This turned out to be a very good decision to get control over the sound very quickly under all conditions. While the MS-60B now is an integral part of my "professional" live pedal board, I use the B3 only as a toy for practices... and for studio experiments.
Surprising, isn't it?
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Stefan
Bavaria/Germany
Finally: the MS-60B is one of four pedals along with my other (analog) pedals on my board. I put the 60B in a blender loop, so I can can fade the Zoom effect signal softly into the original sound. This turned out to be a very good decision to get control over the sound very quickly under all conditions. While the MS-60B now is an integral part of my "professional" live pedal board, I use the B3 only as a toy for practices... and for studio experiments.
Surprising, isn't it?
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Stefan
Bavaria/Germany
It covers my synth sounds, clean boost, octaver, distortion. I also get my Muse ala Hysteria tone from this small pedal. Its very useful for me, saves me a lot of money and lots of space on my board.
I've been looking around at Pedal power systems today and came across this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/140896459907?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
This unit has 2 9V 1A outputs, and then 3 other 9V 100mA outputs, along with the other outputs you will see.
I think I'm going to get one. The 2 high output 9V options I will use for the MS-60B and my X2 XDS Plus, the low outputs I will use for the analog pedals. I can't find heaps of reviews on this product, but the ones I did find seemed positive.
This unit has 2 9V 1A outputs, and then 3 other 9V 100mA outputs, along with the other outputs you will see.
I think I'm going to get one. The 2 high output 9V options I will use for the MS-60B and my X2 XDS Plus, the low outputs I will use for the analog pedals. I can't find heaps of reviews on this product, but the ones I did find seemed positive.
Let us know how that works out. I am going to build a pedalboard and that could come in handy.
Will do. It's marked as shipped already so i expect I'll see it next week. I'm expecting my VT Bass deluxe to arrive around the same time so should be able to run it all together. Just gotta decide whether I buy a Pedal board or make one to suit size wise.
Board will be:
X2 XDS plus wireless
Seymour Duncan double back Compressor
VT Bass deluxe
MS60B in the fx loop of the VTB Deluxe
Boss GEB-7 after the 1/4 out of the VTB so I can tweek stage tone without affect xlr out to the board
Not a crazy board, but with all the options on the 60B, everything I need is covered.
Does anyone have settings to offer for a good (vintage) B 15 / B 18? How about an old late 60's era Kustom tuck and roll with JBLs?
You have an Effect Loop...most heads with an FX return (receive) input will bypass the preamp section entirely and send the returned input directly to the power amp with the master gain as the volume control. From the manual:
EFFECTS LOOP A rear panel effects loop (SEND and RECEIVE jacks) is provided for connecting serial outboard
devices such as compressors and may also be used for parallel type outboard devices (delays, reverbs, harmonizers, octavers etc.) by using the mix control located on the outboard device. This loop is located right before the Master
Volume control and is also intended as a Preamp Out / Power Amp In connection for possible chaining of amplifiers in
a Master / Slave configuration. The effects loop contains a normal switch in the receive jack that interrupts the signal
path when a plug is inserted into the receive jack. The send jack may be used for an aux. output without breaking the
signal path.
If you're looking for the unadulterated power amp without any of the preamp tone flavoring, this is how you do it, and you'll be hearing 100% of the pedal when connected this way.
I used mine last night at a full blown rehearsal, with a loud drummer and just 1 Yamaha MSR400 12/horn powered monitor. I used a clean SVT amp emulation, and 2 dirtier settings of the SVT. That powered monitor is capable of a lot of things, but I have never heard it sound as full or prominent in the mix. It isn't like my nv412, but it doesn't weigh as much either! Very impressed.
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