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Zoom MS-60B Firmware Update 2.0 (June 2017)

#101
okcrum said:
I wonder if this big update to all Zoom's (presumably) TMS320-based DSP multistomp products means they're starting on their next generation using a different processor. Did I also hear the MS-100 effects are free now? :thumbsup:
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Hopefully that means the b1on gets an update to 2.0 as well then. I have an ms60b and b1on on my pedalboard, with the ms60b providing detune chorus and hpf in an effects loop with my bass microsynth, and that b1on doing my patches for other needed effects, so the ms60b only stays on that one patch now.
 
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#102
I got the MS-60B this week and have been going through the compressors first to find which ones I like the most.

RackComp - I found to give the most natural sound, doesn't give much punch but balances dynamic playing nicely. (ratio 4, attack 3)
160 Comp - Made the tone more bassy but adds a punch at the beginning of notes with the hard knee setting. soft knee is closer to RackComp, more natural sounding but still bassy. (ratio 4)

Out of the other ones I couldn't get usable settings for my taste, but I want to experiment more with the newly added OrangeLim and DualComp.
 
#104
Alib8 said:
I got the MS-60B this week and have been going through the compressors first to find which ones I like the most.

RackComp - I found to give the most natural sound, doesn't give much punch but balances dynamic playing nicely. (ratio 4, attack 3)
160 Comp - Made the tone more bassy but adds a punch at the beginning of notes with the hard knee setting. soft knee is closer to RackComp, more natural sounding but still bassy. (ratio 4)

Out of the other ones I couldn't get usable settings for my taste, but I want to experiment more with the newly added OrangeLim and DualComp.
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Every MS60 and B3 I've had (couple of each), I've used the 160 comp. Now, I think it's been beaten by the OrangeLim. No settings at all to worry about, and it just adds a nice punch along with the heavy limiting action that tames the spikes. I went through each comp and one of the things I did was to thump a note and let it ring - it's more obvious if you slap an open E, say - to hear just how much the compression was reducing the attack, and how long it took to bloom back to full volume. The OrangeLim was the only one that didn't obviously choke the initial note down below unity, and it still kept the sustained portion of the note exactly as fat as any of the others could.
 
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@jammadave , would you say the OrangeLim is better for the lower strings? I feel like the 160 and Rack comps both make the higher strings stand out more, and the e string disappears a bit. I was hoping the dual band compressor would help with this but no luck with it yet.
 
#106
Alib8 said:
@jammadave , would you say the OrangeLim is better for the lower strings? I feel like the 160 and Rack comps both make the higher strings stand out more, and the e string disappears a bit. I was hoping the dual band compressor would help with this but no luck with it yet.
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I think thus far that the Orange has been better to my ear for most of the stuff *I* do (YMMV), but then again I was also just recently noticing my higher strings being louder, BEFORE I got this MS60, so I assumed it was a string height balance thing and have been messing with the action.

I can say that I haven't noticed an imbalance that I can attribute to the Orange Limiter model, but that the extra-squish action I got from most of the comps in my little impromptu test (above) dropped the attack enough that it could translate to the lower strings appearing quieter, as their higher-energy signal would simply cause the comp to clamp down a little more. Try it for yourself: bang on a low string and see how long it takes to "settle" at volume, before comparing volume string to string. Might help? Not an expert =0)
 
#112
I went back and forth comparing The ana234 chorus and super chorus models at my last gig. I've owned both pedals in the past and I think the zoom models are pretty spot on. I wound up preferring the ana234 which seemed brighter in the mix. Also messed around with the spring63 reverb and tape echo which sounded great also.
 
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#113
superflybass said:
its funny when your guitar players are making comments about the hiss. When you are playing it does not bother me. But it really shouldnt make any noise, or add noise to the chain. Its made me many times look into eventide or putting the line6 m9 back on the board.
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I run an MS60B into a B3n, and now that I'm running them with separate power supplies, I get no hiss or noise at all. Even using IEM's.
 
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#114
Just spent an hour or so editing patches and trying some of the new effects, whoopee. I really like the OrangeLim, simply magic, reminds me of the comp on the Durham Sex Drive. Placed before octavers really phattens and smooths tracking. OrangeLim placed after some effects like filters or fuzzes makes them sound less digital.

Monotone is my favorite amp model, played those amps for ever and the model is very good.

Trick for the fuzzes and filters turn the gain or sensitivity way down and add the OrangeLim.
 
#115
I am having zero luck with the updater, I get the pedal to enter the 'ready for firmware update' mode no problem but I cannot get the pedal to appear in the update app in the midi in or out boxes. I've tried on two different Macs and three PC's, same result. The pdf suggests the pedal should be detected by windows but windows doesn't even see the device (no device found, searching for update screen). Anyone know a link to direct download windows drivers so the update can see the pedal?
 
#117
BCproducer said:
Ok fixed my own problem, the usb cable I was using must have been enough to send power but not good enough for data connection. New usb cable, update now happening.
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I was going to suggest this. It is something that everyone should file away in their memory bank somewhere. Some USB cables are built only for charging use, others are full function data and power. I tend to throw away the first kind, that way I am never in the position of having a USB cable that isn't really a USB cable. If I have one, I have one that will do what I need to do....
 
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#118
khutch said:
I was going to suggest this. It is something that everyone should file away in their memory bank somewhere. Some USB cables are built only for charging use, others are full function data and power. I tend to throw away the first kind, that way I am never in the position of having a USB cable that isn't really a USB cable. If I have one, I have one that will do what I need to do....
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Also the USB is a mini B 5 pin not as common today so I keep a bundle of different type usb together so I don't have to look so hard. Some other Zoom products use this connector as well as some cameras.

usb plug types - Google Search:
 
#120
mudpup said:
Have you got the Zoom powered up? I assumed you needed it switched on but it doesn't go into the firmware update mode unless its powered off and unplugged from the mains. You just need the USB connected.
Press and hold the up/down buttons around the footswitch then plug the USB in - it should go into firmware update screen. Then run the firmware update file from the link on the download section of the Zoom site. Takes about 20 seconds to run and then you're good to go....
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Thank you for this!! I got stuck and this helped me get unstuck and update. Happy with all the new things on here. There were some things that I have on the B1Xon (but i just don't/can't use the B1Xon with my live rig or the like) that I thought were way cool and sucked that they weren't on the 60b. And now they are :) and I keep the 60b on my sister board so these will make a nice addition to my overall setup. Thanks guys!! Zoom is fun :)
 
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