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[Koldunya]

That's great work! Would love to see someone crack this for the G6/G11 -->B6. May not be possible, but I'd love access to some of the guitar drives and pedal effects

It looks like someone asked on the ToneLib forum in 2021 but that's about all I could find

It could be lack of popularity due to price, etc, that no one is really looking to hack them. I hope it's not because Zoom made them somehow unhackable...

Would be nice if Zoom stopped selling guitar/bass/acoustic specific models and instead sold a common device, with a certain FX bundle preinstalled, as many other manufacturers do, and then sold complementary bundles (guitar/bass/acoustic) separately.

A G6/B6 combo floor unit would cost probably $550 at least, if not $600, based on the upcharge the B6 has over the G6 with its extra switches, inputs, outputs, then add the G6 expression pedal... it would be a little bigger, and likely eat into the G11 when it was once on some crazy $600 sale.

The G11 is the product you want already. It has recently added bass amp models and effects. But it is $800 compared to the competition...

I do remember when I sold my HD500X I almost bought the Line 6 Bass Amp expansion for it at one point, though.

**Edit** On further reflection I think you just want a general/generic platform that comes with one set of software, with optional additions purchased afterward. I like it, but then I wonder where it would compromise on hardware to be sold en-masse for X price point.

 

[jimfist]

A G6/B6 combo floor unit would cost probably $550 at least, if not $600, based on the upcharge the B6 has over the G6 with its extra switches, inputs, outputs, then add the G6 expression pedal... it would be a little bigger, and likely eat into the G11 when it was once on some crazy $600 sale.

The G11 is the product you want already. It has recently added bass amp models and effects. But it is $800 compared to the competition...

The fact that the B6 is 88.2Khz sample rate and all the other pedals are the typical 44.1kHz sample rate is a hurdle.
One debate is whether regarding how much the sample rate matters to the sound/feel of the B6 (I think it does).
I'd rather have the dedicated B6 at a higher sample rate than have the G11 with bass stuff at the lower sample rate....not to mention the B6 XLR out, DI models, etc.

 

[Koldunya]

The fact that the B6 is 88.2Khz sample rate and all the other pedals are the typical 44.1kHz sample rate is a hurdle.
One debate is whether regarding how much the sample rate matters to the sound/feel of the B6 (I think it does).
I'd rather have the dedicated B6 at a higher sample rate than have the G11 with bass stuff at the lower sample rate....not to mention the B6 XLR out, DI models, etc.

yeah, I like my B6 and G6 situation the way it is, was just offering that the "combo" device some people want does exist. I did think the G6 would be the same sample rate as the B6 when I got it. It's confusing since they're the same footprint and look so similar and effectively part of the same line. I doubt the G6 would get updated to 88.2 though; I imagine it'd be "hobbled" down to the same effects specs as the B6 (6 at a time, CPU use per, etc) and people would be mad about that.

The biggest issue for me with devices that combine bass and guitar is that the bass side is almost always a let down, the gear is designed with guitarists in mind and then bass players are told "this is all you need." (I see it time and time again when someone suggests bass/guitar combo effects units, it's a guitarist that thinks all bass players GAF about amp-wise are Ampeg SVTs LOL...).

I wouldn't trade my B6/G6 combo for a G11.

In other Zoom-related news, I tried the cabinet simulations on the G6 last night. I'd seen people maligning them in favor of IRs, these are my findings:

1)People that said they were bad don’t know what they are doing (imo, obviously)
2)Use them for how they sound, not necessarily what they are claiming to emulate
3)7-8% CPU use vs 35%+ is huge
4)More sound sculpting options than using an IR.
5)For some stupid reason they default to “mic off” which is… well… useless lol. Why would you use it without a mic? (you won’t? It sounds like absolute trash and is intended for use with a real cab according to the manual…)

Some sound pretty dark, but so do a lot of the IRs I have. Blending between a 57 and 421 is nice, though I’d liked to have seen more mics. Maybe a “dual slot” cab sim with 8 controls vs 4, that’d be useful to blend cabs/speaker types.

And I still want that Steamroll amp in the G6, Zoom. I'm waiting.

 

[Koldunya]

Thomann has the B6 for $366 BUT the caveat is that it's $425 shipped to the US. That's still a good price, though; Mine was $400 during the recent sale for $450 new.

https://www.thomannmusic.com/zoom_b6.htm

The G6 is $299, or $360 shipped to the US. I paid $290 for my open box one.
https://www.thomannmusic.com/zoom_g6.htm

 

[G On Bass]

So I'm back to using a Zoom board again. My computer OS upgrade requirements nullified the edit share software for my perfectly functioning B3, and I had an opportunity to trade a different pedal for a B3N. I don't play out as much as I used to, but when I do, I find myself needing more tones than the usual 3-4 OD's I used. So I replaced all my pedals with the B3N.
Thoughts so far (probably already covered in this thread, but hey.):
-I like the direction they went with the patch/stompbox mode
-The software is good and easy to use/program
-I miss the ability to assign a pedal to various parameters. It seems a 2 step process now to get a pedal effect: 1 to turn on the effect, then a foot move to the pedal.
-Still lots of useless patches and effects (IMHO) with wildly different output levels (not just an opinion)
-Would be nice to have the DI and the USB 2.0 connector like on a B3, but not the end of the world.
All that being said, I do like it a great deal (enough to where I will now look to sell the B3) and it is gonna do just fine for what I need.

 

[jmwreck]

 

[Manny Fritsch]

I use a Zoom A3 guitar pedal as a DI/Preamp to enhance and boost the sound of my NS Design EUB and my Kala U-Bass instruments. Is there anyone out there doing the same thing?

 

[bassbrad]

The Zoom B2 Four looks interesting at a nice price point, I really want to see what the amp models and effects choices are before making too much of a judgement.

 

[OldShark]

The Zoom B2 Four looks interesting at a nice price point, I really want to see what the amp models and effects choices are before making too much of a judgement.

If you just want to "see" them, the effects list is available on the site you mentioned... . As to how do they sound, we will have to wait apparently...

 

[bassbrad]

If you just want to "see" them, the effects list is available on the site you mentioned... . As to how do they sound, we will have to wait apparently...

B2 FOUR Support
Found them, looks fine, even great for most bass players needs but there are some serious omissions that would really make this worthy of my consideration.


>There are no speaker sims listed ~ mixing amp to different speakers is half the fun.
>No GK, Peavey or Marshall models
>Amp sims need a mid sweep instead of using the same tone section on each model.
>The choices of modulation selection is limited to standard choices ~ nothing really fun or freaky.
>The reverbs and delays are good but again where is the fun stuff
>Limitation of only 4 parameters
>limit of 5 possible effects again limit creativity & the fun factor

It also does not appear that we can load IR models or additional effects without hacking the OS which runs into issues down the road.

 

[astoryarc]

Unless the quality of the effects and everything else has taken a notable step up it seems $75-100 over priced to me. At $250 I would be looking at a number of other mfx pedals first.

 

[bassbrad]

FWIW I just sent Zoom and email, perhaps they will listen and update the Zoom B2 Four.

 

[DreamSpy]

I still have the ZOOM 506II in my signal chain. I used it very little when I was in a band, but now when I'm making solo material it's in constant use. Chorus and octaver, a little distortion or fuzz.. Tech 21 and ZOOM, that's where my basic sound is found.

 

[bassbrad]

I still have the ZOOM 506II in my signal chain. I used it very little when I was in a band, but now when I'm making solo material it's in constant use. Chorus and octaver, a little distortion or fuzz.. Tech 21 and ZOOM, that's where my basic sound is found.

Those old Zooms had a certain sonic charm and some of the effects worked better in memory, that octaver in particular had a great sound and tracking that was later lost IMHO. I still have my original 506 that was on many a gig until I got the 607. Sadly both suffered the same cause of demise a singer stepping heavily upon the input and output jacks causing the in/outs to be unreliable. I was the same singer iirc, but he did help to purchase the 607, under threat of bodily hard from myself and the drummer. He also had to replace some other gear his rambunctiousness and stage antics caused. As much as I considered having them repaired it simply made more sense to upgrade after their arduous service had more than earned them retirement.

 

[Eli_Kyiv]

I still have my Zoom 505. Of course it doesn't see much use these days, but still... Last time I've used it as an effects unit and stereo enhancer for the old Yamaha DX27 synth. Modulation and time effects still work great.

 

[deff]

Anyone here ever use the Zoom am7 android mic for capturing practices? I wonder how useable it would be? Is the software at lease easy and do the mics do a reasonable job of capturing stuff?

 

[jimfist]

Anyone here ever use the Zoom am7 android mic for capturing practices? I wonder how useable it would be? Is the software at lease easy and do the mics do a reasonable job of capturing stuff?

LOL. Gloucester, eh? I'm a former member of the "canal club", class of 1980.
The specs say: MAXIMUM INPUT SOUND PRESSURE: 120 dBSPL
As long as you're a reasonable distance in the room from the loudest instruments, you should be able to adjust the input gain low enough to get a clean recording. I don't have that mic, so take this for what it's worth.
Best bet would be to try posting a new thread in the LIVE SOUND or RECORDING GEAR & EQUIPMENT forum.

 

[deff]

LOL. Gloucester, eh? I'm a former member of the "canal club", class of 1980.
The specs say: MAXIMUM INPUT SOUND PRESSURE: 120 dBSPL
As long as you're a reasonable distance in the room from the loudest instruments, you should be able to adjust the input gain low enough to get a clean recording. I don't have that mic, so take this for what it's worth.
Best bet would be to try posting a new thread in the LIVE SOUND or RECORDING GEAR & EQUIPMENT forum.

Yeah, whoops the search function is weird when you enter new terms it backs you out of subforums. I should have checked. I've been here since 97. You might know my wife's family. She has a brother that was class of 82. She was familiar with you degenerates. (Said in the nicest way possible)

 

[manbass]

Is anyone here chaining multiple Zoom multi-effect units units together and/or with other select stomp boxes? Any issues to avoid if doing that based on your experience?
I have been using an older B1Xon (which I think is plenty wide and deep in itself) and comparing the effects list of that vs. the B1Four, MS-60b, B6 and now the newer B2Four pedals and see some different effects and some identical overlap in each. Except with B6, the amount of simultaneous effects and choice of effects by chaining them together for about $300-$350 beats anything like the B6 or the new B2Four, right?

IE : B1Xon > MS-60b > B1XFour

 

[bassbrad]

@manbass I almost always use my Zoom B3, MS70cdr and MS60B with other pedals without any issues but have never felt the need to combine them. I wish Zoom would update and include many of the old effects and amps into the newer line up, but I'm probably an outlier.

I use the Zoom MS60B for modulations, Delay, Reverb and ZNR so have it last in line. This is how i have bee using the Zoom pedals since the 607.