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I'm doing the same thing, but will be in the new place about the time you're out of your apartment. It has lots of storage space. You know, if you need a safe place to keep your dingwalls :D

Funny thing. We're moving down into your 'work' neighborhood. I was feeling spendy and we're up on top of the ridge above East Lake. Caz will be a town of a handful of Dingwalls. You should hear me practice from Critz.

Well if we're gonna fight about who gets what, dibs on the Monique!

She stays out in Camillus most of the time. I've only ever had her at 'home' a handful of times. :) I may bring the Kern home for practice time though.

I'm looking forward to your review as well. I am seriously thinking about the FD3 retrofit for my Voodoo Prima, although mine would be a lot easier because I have standard sized shells that Nordstrand carries in stock.

BTW, are you going to replace the Bart pre as well?

When I got the V/P it was wired as a passive Jazz with VVT setup. At some point in time the original Bartolini preamp had fried and when Steven took it to the shop for a once over and tune-up he had them wire it as a passive Jazz. I ended up putting in an Aguilar OBP-2 preamp since my Rastaburst has the OBP-1 in it, and it's always sounded fantastic. Since the Dingwall hybrid passive/active treble control doesn't exist anymore, I opted for the OBP-2, which is both boost/attenuate for each of the controls and it has the bass centered at the same frequency. The treble, unfortunately is centered a higher than the OBP-1, but since I only ever roll off treble, that's workable.


It's kinda funny; despite the mods I've done on my bass, it still has the original Bartolini pickups and preamp.

If I used my onboard EQ, I might feel compelled to update my preamp -- the EQ points in the Bartolini pre are skewed towards a scooped tone that I don't like -- but I do most of my tone shaping by pickup selection, and the Bart pickups are kinda middy.

So the combination works well--especially with the Bartolinis hardwired in series and P-Tone in P-bass position.

The Barts sound great by themselves when I'm practicing but really get lost in the mix with the band. They also tend to be super boomy on the lows when I boost unlike the FD-3's which seem to have more overall control to the tone in the lows. I'm also guessing my Barts are a different model. I was unable to use the 4-way to wire them in series.
 
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No, see, you guys can both store your gear at my house, since, you know, I'm not in the midst of moving.

We've out sized our 1200 square foot flat, and that's without any gear storage beyond basses. Hopefully this is the only move we do in a long long time. We're going to have a music/tv/'rumpus room' downstairs. and there's theoretically enough room for band practice if I can convince everyone to make the drive. If I have to move all my gear to our home...we're going to need more space. I'm the one who owns the PA and 3 guitar amps, 4 bass cabs, multiple amp/poweramp, recording and effects racks, etc.
 
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We've out sized our 1200 square foot flat, and that's without any gear storage beyond basses. Hopefully this is the only move we do in a long long time. We're going to have a music/tv/'rumpus room' downstairs. and there's theoretically enough room for band practice if I can convince everyone to make the drive. If I have to move all my gear to our home...we're going to need more space. I'm the one who owns the PA and 3 guitar amps, 4 bass cabs, multiple amp/poweramp, recording and effects racks, etc.
Guess you're gonna need to build a rehearsal studio out back then.
 
Y'all see this? X-top (with contrast layer) ABZ3X inna satin finish next to a matching high gloss Z series?

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I swear, @Sheldon D. just keeps coming up with new and better ways for me to spend my money.

Not mad about that at all drool
 
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Guess you're gonna need to build a rehearsal studio out back then.

Do-able. Right now the back yard is about an acre of grass.

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Although I kind of like that. And it would only be do-able if I actually made some serious cash. I'm tapped from the buying.
 
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Funny thing. We're moving down into your 'work' neighborhood. I was feeling spendy and we're up on top of the ridge above East Lake. Caz will be a town of a handful of Dingwalls. You should hear me practice from Critz.



She stays out in Camillus most of the time. I've only ever had her at 'home' a handful of times. :) I may bring the Kern home for practice time though.



When I got the V/P it was wired as a passive Jazz with VVT setup. At some point in time the original Bartolini preamp had fried and when Steven took it to the shop for a once over and tune-up he had them wire it as a passive Jazz. I ended up putting in an Aguilar OBP-2 preamp since my Rastaburst has the OBP-1 in it, and it's always sounded fantastic. Since the Dingwall hybrid passive/active treble control doesn't exist anymore, I opted for the OBP-2, which is both boost/attenuate for each of the controls and it has the bass centered at the same frequency. The treble, unfortunately is centered a higher than the OBP-1, but since I only ever roll off treble, that's workable.




The Barts sound great by themselves when I'm practicing but really get lost in the mix with the band. They also tend to be super boomy on the lows when I boost unlike the FD-3's which seem to have more overall control to the tone in the lows. I'm also guessing my Barts are a different model. I was unable to use the 4-way to wire them in series.

Very nice, congrats. We're working out the details for another season of farmhouse funk, you and any of your fine pieces of gear should come sit in again ;)
 
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Very nice, congrats. We're working out the details for another season of farmhouse funk, you and any of your fine pieces of gear should come sit in again ;)

Looking forward to it! We know all of about 4 people in Cazenovia right now. It looks like Patrick has a bunch of good things happening over at the farm right now. Also, it may be far enough out not to be part of my contractual musical blackout zone. ;)
 
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I'm already shopping for mowers. Seriously. The thing I'm most stressing out about right now is the mowing. Probably going to get both a wide-deck rider and a slightly smaller push.

It's not how fast you mow, it's how well you mow fast! :roflmao:

I used to be a pro. I worked on an island off the coast and we didn't have any wussy riding mowers. We had to drag these big wide decked push mowers up the beach from the boat every day and then do huge acres of fields.
 
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Cool. Is that a mid on the top of your cab, or a tweeter?

Paging @DukeLeJeune as he can speak to the technicals of the ThunderChild better than I. He did design and build it afterall :D.

The horn you see on Selta's Thunderchild 118 cab is a prosound unit that would be at home in a good PA cab. I've used it in high-end home audio as well.

As for whether it's a mid or a tweeter, I'd call it a tweeter. The crossover is around 1.5 kHz and the top end of the compression driver extends to about 18 kHz or so.

The horn's pattern is 80 degrees in the horizontal plane and 60 degrees in the vertical plane. The woofer's pattern has narrowed to approximately match that of the horn in the crossover region, a technique called "pattern matching". While theoretically an 18" woofer would be beaming badly at 1.5 kHz, the theory fails to take into account cone break-up, which has the effect of widening the radiation pattern. Somehow the engineers at Faital managed to design an 18" cone that goes into breakup extremely gracefully, allowing us to use it up to the 1.5 kHz crossover point while still being able to achieve the "flat response" that Selta mentioned.
 
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The horn you see on Selta's Thunderchild 118 cab is a prosound unit that would be at home in a good PA cab. I've used it in high-end home audio as well.

As for whether it's a mid or a tweeter, I'd call it a tweeter. The crossover is around 1.5 kHz and the top end of the compression driver extends to about 18 kHz or so.

The horn's pattern is 80 degrees in the horizontal plane and 60 degrees in the vertical plane. The woofer's pattern has narrowed to approximately match that of the horn in the crossover region, a technique called "pattern matching". While theoretically an 18" woofer would be beaming badly at 1.5 kHz, the theory fails to take into account cone break-up, which has the effect of widening the radiation pattern. Somehow the engineers at Faital managed to design an 18" cone that goes into breakup extremely gracefully, allowing us to use it up to the 1.5 kHz crossover point while still being able to achieve the "flat response" that Selta mentioned.
Thanks for chiming in, Duke!

Anyone that wonders into the AudioKinesis club thread (here: AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...) will find many fans of Duke's designs, and for very, very good reason. They sound and perform ridiculously well - I can't imagine a better fit for Dingwall basses. You'll also see me raving about these fairly regularly. I definitely urge folks here who are looking for something different and dare I say "better" to give Duke's stuff a good, close look.

Duke says the TC118 weighs 43 lbs, but I am not sure that is true. I can one hand carry it from my car to gigs, even up and down stairs. I throw a bass over my back, my rack in one hand, this cab in another and off I go to any gig. My 4U rack definitely weighs more than it (with just an Axe-Fx and a 13 lb QSC power amp).
 
So we're working on this new song...it's sort of a heavy roots meets riff-metal thing. Yeah. I know, it doesn't sound like it makes sense, but once you hear it, it will.

Anyway, it gave me a chance to level out my treble and get some cut and dig in...I've always understood why so many guys doing harder stuff love Dingwalls but never get to experience it. Lots and lots of fun with that tone.
 
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