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2 Notes Opus

A/B tested the OPUS and the Element. Other than they perform similar functions, they are not the same.

pros for the element: get playing quickly. Limited options make setup quicker

pros for the OPUS: OMG. That sound and the never ending options. Not even in the same league:

That's good to know, thanks. I ended up choosing an Opus and I'm glad I did. Haven't had much time to play with it yet though.
It's going to take a while to try out all the different options.
I'd be interested to hear what settings you end up using/liking.
 
I'm tempted to upgrade my CAB M+ to this purely because of the stereo headphone out. Mono headphone / aux was such an immense bummer on the CAB, I got it to replace my OCSD and ended up not using it on my board because of that plus the weird power requirements. I used the OCSD as my perfect on-tour or at-home headphone practice solution. I'd love to be able to go back to that; now I have to use my computer or run through my backbeat just for the aux input and headphone out.

Speaking of the weird power requirements: does anyone know whether you can overpower the unit with 18v and have it be fine? I power my whole board with a Noble that only outputs 9v or 18v with a voltage doubler. Or maybe there's a company that makes a "voltage one-and-one-third-er"...
 
Speaking of the weird power requirements: does anyone know whether you can overpower the unit with 18v and have it be fine? I power my whole board with a Noble that only outputs 9v or 18v with a voltage doubler. Or maybe there's a company that makes a "voltage one-and-one-third-er"...

If you wanna destroy your CAB M+, by all means power it with 18V. Otherwise, give it the 12V it requires.

Also, FWIW the Noble power supply is not isolated. You will probably introduce a ton of hum into your chain by going that route. Not sure how many people are aware how ancient/out of date that Noble power supply is compared to what's readily available these days...
 
That's good to know, thanks. I ended up choosing an Opus and I'm glad I did. Haven't had much time to play with it yet though.
It's going to take a while to try out all the different options.
I'd be interested to hear what settings you end up using/liking.

it’s going to be a minute, and the options cover so much territory. I’ll start with the presets and go from there.

Great to hear! Let us know how you get on and if either of you have any questions!
 
I do have a question actually. Are all of the DynIR cabinets on your website compatible with Opus? Or are some of them just for Genome?
Also, is the Hektor amp just for Genome?
Thanks
Hi @Chris88,

Thanks for reaching out! Yes our DynIRs are compatible with our Torpedo Series (including OPUS) and GENOME. The Hektor amp is indeed just for GENOME. Let me know if you have any other questions!
 
I'm tempted to upgrade my CAB M+ to this purely because of the stereo headphone out. Mono headphone / aux was such an immense bummer on the CAB, I got it to replace my OCSD and ended up not using it on my board because of that plus the weird power requirements. I used the OCSD as my perfect on-tour or at-home headphone practice solution. I'd love to be able to go back to that; now I have to use my computer or run through my backbeat just for the aux input and headphone out.

Speaking of the weird power requirements: does anyone know whether you can overpower the unit with 18v and have it be fine? I power my whole board with a Noble that only outputs 9v or 18v with a voltage doubler. Or maybe there's a company that makes a "voltage one-and-one-third-er"...

The GigRig SupaNova does the 9V to 12V thing: High Current Power Adapter
 
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The Opus can provide "AMP + CAB" connectivity -- which means you can place the Opus "between your amp and speaker rig." This lets your own amp's actual power section drive an IR inside the Opus. At least, that's how I understand the marketing materials.

But, the Opus can only handle 100W power amp input, correct?

And there is no workaround that would handle the (much) higher wattages that most bass amps deliver?
 
The Opus can provide "AMP + CAB" connectivity -- which means you can place the Opus "between your amp and speaker rig." This lets your own amp's actual power section drive an IR inside the Opus. At least, that's how I understand the marketing materials.

But, the Opus can only handle 100W power amp input, correct?

And there is no workaround that would handle the (much) higher wattages that most bass amps deliver?

I think that it's reasonable for Two Notes and for us laymen to assume that the guitar cohort buying this product will be larger than the bass cohort. Given that assumption, most guitar players, especially those in a position to use a device like this, will be using an all-tube amp, and guitar amps tend to be far lower wattage than their bass counterparts. Whether we like it or not, I think all-tube amps as powerful as an SVT were probably a remote edge case when designing this device. The changes that would be needed to accomodate so much more power might have made the device much more expensive than their intended pricepoint, or there could have been some other engineering/design constraint we'll never know about.

To play my own devil's advocate, my RNDI's manual says it will handle anything up to 1000w of solid-state power. But that device also costs just as much as the Opus and is only a DI, so the engineering/component cost could have been worth it in that case.

If someone's running a class A/B or especially a class D bass amp, I think tapping the Opus off the preamp out of the amp would get a pleasing result for most people's needs.
 
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I’m thinking more along the lines of an all-tube bass amp, 200W to 300W, where the tubes in the power section are a big part of the sound.

That's what I was referencing in my reply - I apologize if that wasn't clear. This product will probably be used by more guitarists than bassists, and most of the guitar amp world operates at 100w or less. Making sure that the Opus could accomodate 200w or 300w bass amps was likely too low on the priority list.
 
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For example, hypothetically:

My Fender Super Bassman is a 300W amp. It has two speaker outputs.

If I connect one output directly to an 8-ohm cabinet and the other one connects into the Opus — then out to a second 8-ohm cab — then (I think) the Opus would be seeing 150W at 8 ohms. Likewise, the first cabinet is also seeing 150W at 8 ohms. In other words, 300W total, at 4 ohms total.

Now, what happens if I next connect the first cabinet (in parallel) to a load box with 8 ohms impedance? I’m using Fender Bassman 115 pro neo cabs for this hypothetical rig. They allow a parallel connection (if my understanding is correct).

Now the Opus is seeing 100W, am I right?
 
Hi Guys,

Ross from Two notes here. Great thread everyone!

Yes, OPUS is rated for 100W max but remember your amp is not putting out 100W the moment you turn it on, providing you keep your master volume lower, you can still integrate OPUS into your rig. Alternatively - if your Amp features an FX loop, you can add OPUS there and use our poweramp emulation to further refine your tone - that way, you get over the Wattage hurdle. Please note, as a bass player myself, I understand your concerns regarding driving your poweramp, however I have OPUS in the loop of my amp and I get a great DI tone from this setup scenario!

@RobertAuCoin, great question! I have just dropped a note to one of our specialists and we will revert back ASAP!

Myself and @AmyTwonotes are always monitoring our forums so if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to let us know!
 
Hi Guys,

Ross from Two notes here. Great thread everyone!

Yes, OPUS is rated for 100W max but remember your amp is not putting out 100W the moment you turn it on, providing you keep your master volume lower, you can still integrate OPUS into your rig. Alternatively - if your Amp features an FX loop, you can add OPUS there and use our poweramp emulation to further refine your tone - that way, you get over the Wattage hurdle. Please note, as a bass player myself, I understand your concerns regarding driving your poweramp, however I have OPUS in the loop of my amp and I get a great DI tone from this setup scenario!

@RobertAuCoin, great question! I have just dropped a note to one of our specialists and we will revert back ASAP!

Myself and @AmyTwonotes are always monitoring our forums so if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to let us know!
You all are the best. I can’t wait to get back from vacay to put my opus to the test.
 
Good to know! But for me, cranking the master volume is how the tube tone thing really happens.

I completely get that, especially with Bass Amps. But it may be worth trying the poweramp emulation and pushing the Volume control up to see if this gets you where you need to be - does your amp have an FX loop out of interest?
 
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