I haven't had the chance to gig with the 212av yet. I have with the 2 Rumble 115s in a dive bar with no FOH and it was solid and thumpy, more than enough volume in a decent sized place with about 100 people. Unfortunately, all the places we've played recently have backlines with some random bass rig and FOH support. Sometimes it's a battle with the sound dude just to use the V4b and not the crappy random head they got.