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Acme Users Unite!!!

#63
Thanks for all the advice! Don't know what i'd do without TB :D. If i did throw a Parametric EQ in there, what would you guys suggest?

Right now i dont think cutting is really that big of a deal because my band is REALLY bass oriented (gulp :/) and the way i sit in the mix i have to be pretty laid back with my sound to not blow everyone else out of the water heh. But then again, a Parametric EQ might let me do that even better.

Joker: i think tom has enough cabs to demolish a small building if he hooked them all up!

EDIT: Just looked at Joker's Para-EQ thread. What the heck is a eureka?
 
#64
5verfan,

cool to hear that you're in a musical situation where you'd actually be able to appreciate what goodness the cab can give you. and sounds like a very cool gig!

funny, but the other night after work, i realized that i'd forgotten how great the Acmes can sound as they are. didnt touch a thing on my DB680, and just let my Sadowsky breathe thru my B-1 pair. :cool:
 
#65
I've never needed EQ to help my Acmes cut through but maybe that's because I tend to be in musical contexts where I have plenty of sonic room. I do use my onboard EQ a bit but that's for tone-shaping to get all those different sounds out of my bass, and the Acmes let that through loud and clear, from growly Jaco funk through to Family Man depth. And then there's all the effects.

Knowing how well the Acmes respond to tonal changes I can see parametric EQ working amazingly well if you need to sculpt your tone to fit in a precise place in the mix, but if everything's sounding great without it keep it pure and simple.

Alex
 
#68
Interesting ACME fact: An Acme B4 is only 2 inches deeper that a peavey TNT...and on top of that, a little shorter and more narrow.

That seems incridble to me. Here i was worring that it wouldn't fit in my treble g****arist's car, when my TNT fits with ease!

Tom, Oddio,Alex: I hope i find myself in the same situation as you guys. It'll be one less thing to buy haha.
 
#69
Can I get some opinions on this one?

I'm ready to try ACME but I'd like to know which one. If two B-1 sound the same as one B-2, I'll get a B-1 now and a second when I need more volume. If the B-2 is just better overall, I'll go with a B-2 to start.

Thanks again,
LeonD


LeonD said:
Thanks for all the Acme answers so far.

I started thinking about Acme vs. Acme. How do two B-1 compare to one B-2?

I'd think the B-1s would be more portable at the expense on increased cost. How would they compare sonically?

Thanks again,
LeonD
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#70
Leon-

The big difference of two B1s vs a single B2 is that you'll get a second mid driver in addition to the 10" woofer, not to mention some added modularality when it comes to scaling your system based on your particular needs.

This was the rationale behind my getting two B2s - extra setup flexibility, extra mid driver, more portable, etc.

ALSO NOTE that the Acme's do sound awesome - but because they are so accurate, they will show off the true colors in your other equipment real fast. Great for showing the true "flava" of your instruments - bad for showing any inadequacies/shortcomings in your other stuff. Be prepared to hear what your bass "really" sounds like.

Lonnybass
 
#71
Lonnybass said:
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ALSO NOTE that the Acme's do sound awesome - but because they are so accurate, they will show off the true colors in your other equipment real fast. Great for showing the true "flava" of your instruments - bad for showing any inadequacies/shortcomings in your other stuff. Be prepared to hear what your bass "really" sounds like.

Lonnybass
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VERY true...

and i like a pair of B-1's. if your gigs are as small as they are, then having the option of just carrying a B-1 for those smaller than small accompaniment gigs is nice to have.

and while, i did miss the more focused punch of a single B2, my B-1 pair is nothing to shake a stick at.
 
#72
How would a walkabout sound thru a B2? We don't do terribly loud stuff (OAR/Dispatch kinda style) but I still need that big ballsy low end, but I'm not competing with a drummer that plays his drums like he's beating a horse either (more often than not he's on the piano anywho). The cab does have a low sensitivity tho, and everyone here has said it sounds better with more power being pushed thru it, so I'm concerned that it may not get as loud as I may possibly need with only 300 watts being pushed thru it...
 
#74
Joe Martin said:
How would a walkabout sound thru a B2? We don't do terribly loud stuff (OAR/Dispatch kinda style) but I still need that big ballsy low end, but I'm not competing with a drummer that plays his drums like he's beating a horse either (more often than not he's on the piano anywho). The cab does have a low sensitivity tho, and everyone here has said it sounds better with more power being pushed thru it, so I'm concerned that it may not get as loud as I may possibly need with only 300 watts being pushed thru it...
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Well, again, the *cab* doesn't sound better with more power, your amp does, because it has more headroom. But I agree with joker--300 W isn't much amp headroom for use with a B-2. I'd go for 600-700 W with a B-2 if I were you. Then be careful not to push it too hard. If you have to push a 600 W amp too hard with a B-2, you'd better get more or bigger cabs.

Another alternative is to get a more efficient cab for use with your Walkabout. maybe a Schroeder or something.
 
#75
Richard Lindsey said:
Another alternative is to get a more efficient cab for use with your Walkabout. maybe a Schroeder or something.
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If you want the Low B-2 sound in a more efficient package that sounds great (phenomenal, even!) with the Walkabout, then the Accugroove Tri 210L is your answer!

Or, to get the best out of a single Low B-2, try an iAMP 800!
 
#76
All this high end cab talk is driving me crazy. I'm upgrading my rig for the first time in 12 years and I can't decided on the cabinets. The big problem is that I can't find all the cabs in one place.

I'm trying to put together a portable rig that has a clear articulate sound. And I'd like to do this with minimal EQ. I'm thinking of an Avalon U-5 into a Stewart World power amp. So far, so good.

This is the hard part. For cabs, I'm thinking either an Acme B-1, Epifani 1x12 or AccuGroove Tri112L. I know if I could hear the three together, I could make up my mind in about 30 seconds. And each store I contacted thought that what they had sounded the best.

Right now I'm leaning towards the Acme B-1. They are very portable and if I ever need more sound, I can get a second and it'll still be less money than the Tri112L. On the other hand, everyone raves about the Epifani and the AccuGroove.

What's a poor bass player to do?

LeonD
 
#77
tombowlus said:
If you want the Low B-2 sound in a more efficient package that sounds great (phenomenal, even!) with the Walkabout, then the Accugroove Tri 210L is your answer!

Or, to get the best out of a single Low B-2, try an iAMP 800!
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The problem is, I don't have 1 grand to drop on a cab :bawl: . But if I did, I would be all over an accugroove :p


Edit: Oh, and I have played an iAMP 500 before, they are nice and all, but a little too warm for my liking. I dunno, maybe it was the EA 210 I was playing thru :hmm:
 
#78
LeonD said:
All this high end cab talk is driving me crazy. I'm upgrading my rig for the first time in 12 years and I can't decided on the cabinets. The big problem is that I can't find all the cabs in one place.

I'm trying to put together a portable rig that has a clear articulate sound. And I'd like to do this with minimal EQ. I'm thinking of an Avalon U-5 into a Stewart World power amp. So far, so good.

This is the hard part. For cabs, I'm thinking either an Acme B-1, Epifani 1x12 or AccuGroove Tri112L. I know if I could hear the three together, I could make up my mind in about 30 seconds. And each store I contacted thought that what they had sounded the best.

Right now I'm leaning towards the Acme B-1. They are very portable and if I ever need more sound, I can get a second and it'll still be less money than the Tri112L. On the other hand, everyone raves about the Epifani and the AccuGroove.

What's a poor bass player to do?

LeonD
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Well, I just received my two Low B-1's (yea!), and I own two T-112's and multiple Accugroove cabs (but not the Tri 112L). What exactly are you looking for in a cab (other than portability)?
 
#79
Joe Martin said:
Edit: Oh, and I have played an iAMP 500 before, they are nice and all, but a little too warm for my liking. I dunno, maybe it was the EA 210 I was playing thru :hmm:
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Which EA 2x10? Was it the NL-210? I do think that the NL-210 is somewhat warm sounding (though not too warm for my tastes), but I would most definitely not call either the VL-210 or the CxL-210 warm sounding cabs. The iAMP is rather warm sounding (for a SS head) when set flat, but to my ears, it is warm because of the fullness of the sound and the smoothness of the highs. If you hit the Bright switch and dial in some upper mids or treble, it can sound like some of the more "hi-fi" heads - although it can't quite match the silky, airy highs and upper mid sweetness of my WWU.
 

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