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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

Ummm...
Has this been discussed here yet?
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The Quandrantid Swarm is a digital synthesizer that features a percussive element to give it a unique sound. It contains a two-pole analog filter, an LFO with eight waveforms, and a spring reverb. The eight touch keys can be used as a mono keyboard, polyphonic keyboard or an eight-step sequencer. The Quandrantid Swarm has MIDI and CV/Trig connectivity. Its normalized pre-patching allows you start creating immediately, but its semi-modular design allows you to use patch cables to explore the potential of this instrument.

price is 459€ (549€ included VAT)

Eowave Quandrantid Swarm Features:
» Triangle wave OSC with spread fold
» Percussion element with frequency
» Two pole filter, filter one high/low pass 12db, filter two low pass 12db
» AD envelope
» One LFO with eight waveforms
» Slew limiter
» Spring reverb
» Eight touch keys with Three modes – mono, poly and sequencer
» MIDI in, CV/Trig in, Clock in/Reset in to communicate with other devices
» VCA

Eowave Quadrantid Swarm Hybrid Synthesizer - Sequencing Sound Demo | SYNTH ANATOMY

 
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I got into music as a metal fan (which was late 80's/early 90's thrash mostly), but these days I don't really listen to much heavy stuff. I reminisce with it more than seek out new stuff. Old favorites are always in rotation from Megadeth, Pantera, and tons of grunge (I don't consider that stuff metal at all)...these days I gravitate more towards heavy funk grooves.

I've been obsessed with Chris Joss lately:
 
Slayer and Suicidal Tendencies ftw.

I appreciated Suicidal Tendencies but was never a huge fan that I knew songs. Slayer went along with a lot of the music I listened to so I ended up seeing them live a handful of times, but was never a big fan. I was more of a Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Pantera guy for my metal...also got into a decent amount of hair metal cause my older sister was into the poison/warrant/motley crue non-sense. Rush was a staple through and through and in the 90s I was ALL ABOUT Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and the derivatives of those bands...then I found PHiSh and that scene encompassed my musical tastes throughout late high school and still to this day. Through Phish fandom I was turned on to all sorts of funk, jazz, and even classic rock that I just missed. Electronic music I had to venture out on my own to really find, but it was really all about Squarepusher for me. He changed the way I think about music and after college I got super crazy into Squarepusher and saw him live a handful of times (being a hop skip and jump away from Brooklyn has its advantages for seeing hipster drawing acts like Squarepusher and Nerve and the like).
 
'89 +/- a year or so was an amazing time
Slayer - Seasons
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Metallica - Justice
Suicidal - Lights Camera Revolution
CoC - Blind
Testament - Practice

I appreciated Suicidal Tendencies but was never a huge fan that I knew songs. Slayer went along with a lot of the music I listened to so I ended up seeing them live a handful of times, but was never a big fan. I was more of a Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Pantera guy for my metal...also got into a decent amount of hair metal cause my older sister was into the poison/warrant/motley crue non-sense. Rush was a staple through and through and in the 90s I was ALL ABOUT Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and the derivatives of those bands...then I found PHiSh and that scene encompassed my musical tastes throughout late high school and still to this day. Through Phish fandom I was turned on to all sorts of funk, jazz, and even classic rock that I just missed. Electronic music I had to venture out on my own to really find, but it was really all about Squarepusher for me. He changed the way I think about music and after college I got super crazy into Squarepusher and saw him live a handful of times (being a hop skip and jump away from Brooklyn has its advantages for seeing hipster drawing acts like Squarepusher and Nerve and the like).

Funny I was the opposite.
Was into hip hop, funk, jazz and electronic....then got into the really heavy shizzle.

Its all music....so ....who cares. When its good its good.
I hate labels.

:)
 
I got into music as a metal fan

Slight digression, but what da hell, since we're talking about metal...

I got into music long before "metal" existed as a genre. But these two quotes of mine from previous (non-related) TB threads in which I talk about how metal co-opted -- or possibly even corrupted? -- progressive rock still resonate with my aesthetic, for whatever that's worth...which is not the same thing as saying I don't like metal; I kinda/sorta do...-ish. Maybe.

I hear ya. I made a similar observation a while back on TB (I’m on my phone, otherwise I’d dig up a link to the thread) where I wondered aloud “Where would prog-rock be in the 21st century if heavy metal had never happened?”

There are some really good bands around that are clearly still carrying the torch that was lit in prog’s 1970s heyday...and yet ALL of them seem to incorporate a healthy dose of head-banging triple-rectified down-tuned crunch riffage, a sound/style that would have been unthinkable prior to the MTV hair band era of heavy metal.

In small doses I kinda dig it. But it doesn’t take a lot for me to write it off as a cheap shortcut, an easy out, a cliche.

So I often long for a hypothetical Rip Van Winkle prog band to come out of their 40+ year coma and start making music like they had NEVER heard Whitesnake.

I've mentioned this elsewhere on TB, but to my ear the thing that makes post-1990 prog significantly and conspicuously different from -- and less charming/more bombastic than -- "original" 1970s-era prog, is that the entire 1980s hair-metal thing intervened. Every so-called "prog" band that's made a dent on the music industry radar since the 1990s has some element of "shred" and "headbanging" going on in their sound that, in the worst cases, lends a (as you say) cartoonishness to their exploits. And even in the best cases makes it fairly easy to timestamp the repertoire.

So I dunno, what do you guys who got into music as metal fans think about any of that?
 
@Bob_Ross Fair question.

For me, it’s not hair metal but more like Metallica and the other more technical bands of the 80s. And also, punk (see: math rock, which to me is prog without keyboards or wind instruments, and with out of tune vocals—not a complaint, just an observation).

I don’t think of distortion as a shortcut at all. It’s just part of the timbre toolbox. And I happen to love it (though I also listen to lots of stuff that does not feature distorted guitar...or guitar at all). King Crimson was plenty heavy before hair metal. The 70s period especially has some scorchers.

Some of the newer technical metal is far beyond 70s prog in complexity. And some metal bands often play fairly clean: Animals as Leaders is a great example. Complexity is sort of an independent variable for me: there is really simple music I love and don’t love, and the same for prog and experimental music.

there’s also all sorts of proggish projects that aren’t 70s prog but aren’t metallic, often with a dose of minimalism: Sonar, Nick Bärtsch, etc. Or even Dawn of MIDI.

I’m curious about what you think of prog bands that sort of bridge the two periods you’re talking about—Marillion for instance is both pre and post hair metal chronologically. To me they don’t fit in your timeline exactly.
 
Slight digression, but what da hell, since we're talking about metal...

I got into music long before "metal" existed as a genre. But these two quotes of mine from previous (non-related) TB threads in which I talk about how metal co-opted -- or possibly even corrupted? -- progressive rock still resonate with my aesthetic, for whatever that's worth...which is not the same thing as saying I don't like metal; I kinda/sorta do...-ish. Maybe.





So I dunno, what do you guys who got into music as metal fans think about any of that?
The Jazz purists at school would always tease and be really mean and snobby about me being a hip hop maniac.
I usually told them to Efff off. One teacher was a real @$$hat about that, every combo class he would poke me at least 4-5 times in the hour long pratice.
Guess who said no when he was a bass player short for a masters exam......????

I even got a call from the guitar teacher after I quit university to play at exams because no one played electric and they where stuck with only upright snobs.
I said sure, pay me...$$$....they said they couldnt because of some paperwork.
I said fine, have fun....dont call me back. Have fun playing Tribal Tech on upright!!

You dig whatever music you like, its all good with me.
Would be boring as heck if we all liked the same stuff.
:)

sorry for the rant......popped into my head when I read your post.
 
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I’m curious about what you think of prog bands that sort of bridge the two periods you’re talking about—Marillion for instance is both pre and post hair metal chronologically. To me they don’t fit in your timeline exactly.

To be completely honest, I have never heard a single note of Marillion's music in my life.

But your post certainly has made me curious, so Imma check 'em out! As well as some of the other bands you mentioned, thanks.
 
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The Jazz purists at school would always tease and be really mean and snobby about me being a hip hop maniac.
I usually told them to Efff off. One teacher was a real @$$hat about that, every combo class he would poke me at least 4-5 times in the hour long pratice.
Guess who said no when he was a bass player short for a masters exam......????

I even got a call from the guitar teacher after I quit university to play at exams because no one played electric and they where stuck with only upright snobs.
I said sure, pay me...$$$....they said they couldnt because of some paperwork.
I said fine, have fun....dont call me back. Have fun playing Tribal Tech on upright!!

You dig whatever music you like, its all good with me.
Would be boring as heck if we all liked the same stuff.
:)

sorry for the rant......popped into my head when I read your post.
Just had a similar conversation today on Discord about music school snobbery. I personally feel that we need to completely revamp our focus with teaching music, and the attitude that is bread into young students.
 
Just had a similar conversation today on Discord about music school snobbery. I personally feel that we need to completely revamp our focus with teaching music, and the attitude that is bread into young students.
Agree 100%.
Studying music in university was the only time in my life where I absolutely hated to play music.
Teachers need to be way more open minded and should LISTEN more to there own students.
Same with graduates that have a sense of entitlement and superiority with the stupid piece of paper.

The purists and that @$$hat teacher where trying to be bullies, I didnt really care cuz I could have easily stepped outside and settle these guys the OG street way. ( I did 10 years of competitive judo....guess why both my knees are shot.......). They all knew that and would back down pretty quick when I got peeved.
But I hate fighting. Its never a good idea, period.
Whenever it happened (I come from a small town and bar fights are a regular thing) I just let the other guy hit air for about 3-4 mins or till he tired himself out, then walked away.

sorry....ranting again
 
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A friend who took his turn as department chair for one of the big university music departments in the U.S. (you'll see why I am keeping this vague in a few words) once told me he thought that academic music schools were the "last refuge for people who hate music." There is a lot of snobbery and normative thinking in formal music education. BUT I do work with some music students in my day job, and if they find me, they are generally more open minded. Especially the ones not following the traditional symphony or jazz conservatory model in their education.

I also hate snobbery, and worse the "nothing good has come out since [insert year]." It's an unbelievably good time in the history of music. Even if I don't like something new, if I've never heard it before, I can still learn something from it. And I don't care what others' like, except inasmuch as they expose me to interesting new music....
 
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Ummm...
Has this been discussed here yet?
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The Quandrantid Swarm is a digital synthesizer that features a percussive element to give it a unique sound. It contains a two-pole analog filter, an LFO with eight waveforms, and a spring reverb. The eight touch keys can be used as a mono keyboard, polyphonic keyboard or an eight-step sequencer. The Quandrantid Swarm has MIDI and CV/Trig connectivity. Its normalized pre-patching allows you start creating immediately, but its semi-modular design allows you to use patch cables to explore the potential of this instrument.

price is 459€ (549€ included VAT)

Eowave Quandrantid Swarm Features:
» Triangle wave OSC with spread fold
» Percussion element with frequency
» Two pole filter, filter one high/low pass 12db, filter two low pass 12db
» AD envelope
» One LFO with eight waveforms
» Slew limiter
» Spring reverb
» Eight touch keys with Three modes – mono, poly and sequencer
» MIDI in, CV/Trig in, Clock in/Reset in to communicate with other devices
» VCA

Eowave Quadrantid Swarm Hybrid Synthesizer - Sequencing Sound Demo | SYNTH ANATOMY


That synth seems pretty cool, but the guy giving the demo is Dreamy.