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You def had better luck than I did. It wasn't the right choice for me. I originally thought all the weirdness would sound good with my Moog, but it's a Moog - it already sounds good. I replaced it with an EQD Avalanche Run and it's perfect now.

But speaking of other poorly matched pedals... that Boss Tape Echo... Not the best choice for that Iridium. I need something with more straightforward subdivisions... when you're messing with that head combination thing, it's really hard to just dial something precise in. I gotta figure out what to get to replace it, gotta be stereo, have tap tempo (or better yet, TRS midi), have some pristine delay as well as something with that nice deteriorated tape sound, and can't be ridiculously expensive. I need the tape sound, but I don't need the tape mechanics for this particular synth.

Does that analog bucket brigade sound sound similar to the deteriorated tape echo, or is that something completely different?

I might keep the Boss, for something else, later, but it's def not right for that synth.

i have an eqd avalanche run (gotta move it sometime) that was sort of the impetus for me eventually getting the dd-500/rv-500 series.
 
I'd get an rv-200 if it existed.
Wonder why it's the only one thats 500 only??

one would imagine that they’d do an rv-200. really, i want an od-500 that has a true blend controllable by exp pedal. oh, and a ps-500.

namm would usually be coming up, which would normally be the time for such things to be announced.
 
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On the subject of synths, all I have are soft synths but i really dig the Moog model D one.
Any of you guys know of a controller that would have enough knobs to make this thing more hands on for me?
I hate tweaking sounds with the touch screen. All I have atm moment is an akai mpk mini.
Can I add a Knob only controller, using to 2 controllers on one ipad?

this might be a bit pricey for what you want to spend, but I quite like mine:

Midi Fighter Twister
 
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Random musing to break the monotony of paper grading....

Well, 2020 was definitely synth gas year for me, Iridum, Wavestate, Tr8s and Hydrasynth. As cool as it is, I'm seeing some downsides... all of these (in particular the WS/Iridium) can get really complex. Complex takes a lot of time to master. I'm finding myself struggling what synth to work on. Now the damn Hydrasynth is in the picture, that's complicating things, even more. I need to not do this, again. At least space 'em out, next time.

Also think it was a bit of a mistake to get the HS so soon after Iridium. As awesome as the HS is (I'm really digging playing the pads and the workflow), it still feels like a step back when compared to the Iridium, both in its capabilities and interface, probably making me a bit more frustrated, as it's making me realize that my progress in sound design may have more to do with the interface of the Iridium than my sound design skills, as I've still yet to make a HS patch that I'm really satisfied with.

I'm not kidding, every night's a damn dilemma, as to what to learn. Of course, I'm still just chucking that out the window and just jamming but I do wish I'd considered this more. I spent so much time with the TR... then the WS showed up. And that dominated my time... until the Iridium... now it's the HS.

I just need to retire and play all day, but my wife's not down with that, yet.

This post is my life. As many of you have witnessed, I've amassed a sh.t ton of new complex gear this year (including the same said hydrasynth...and a tele thinline...and a Beebo...and...and..and...). Call it whatever kind of dysfunction you want. Ima blame it on "2020" (though truth be told, 2019 wasn't all that different - Oooops). But in all seriousness, something I've done is do a "pedal of the week" or set a weekly goal on something I want to rewire or learn or accomplish. It helps keep it light without making it too stressful, but still moving forward. We all have the constraint of time and motivation and I can only commit so much of my time to my fun - aka music/gear/what-have-you...sometimes/most-times I just wanna play and make music. get a few loops going, jam with myself, build an ambient bed...always make some music that I'm kicking myself that I wasn't recording ;)

For that week, I'll make said gear a bit more accessible...leaving the manual out, maybe watching a few youtube videos when I want to just sit and stare at a screen and try to give that device some amount of attention. Sometimes I'll try to overlap gear, like the Hydrasynth and the Beebo and work on both at the same time. The key is this is supposed to be fun. With all hobbies, GAS is inevitable, especially in weird times like these where we are stuck at home and have more time to browse or read about or even more cash cause we haven't been to a bar or a concert in 10 months!@@!#!#! so we end up with more than what we've mastered. That's a great problem to have, but still a problem none-the-less. Put one device away, set the other one up. Rotate. When inspiration hits, let it. This is supposed to be fun. Like birthdays when you were a kid, you ended up with too many cool toys to play with at the same time. You got this ;)

that was more of a pep talk to myself than to you @lordradish
 
You def had better luck than I did. It wasn't the right choice for me. I originally thought all the weirdness would sound good with my Moog, but it's a Moog - it already sounds good. I replaced it with an EQD Avalanche Run and it's perfect now.

But speaking of other poorly matched pedals... that Boss Tape Echo... Not the best choice for that Iridium. I need something with more straightforward subdivisions... when you're messing with that head combination thing, it's really hard to just dial something precise in. I gotta figure out what to get to replace it, gotta be stereo, have tap tempo (or better yet, TRS midi), have some pristine delay as well as something with that nice deteriorated tape sound, and can't be ridiculously expensive. I need the tape sound, but I don't need the tape mechanics for this particular synth.

Does that analog bucket brigade sound sound similar to the deteriorated tape echo, or is that something completely different?

I might keep the Boss, for something else, later, but it's def not right for that synth.

This screams Red Panda Particle v2
 
This post is my life. As many of you have witnessed, I've amassed a sh.t ton of new complex gear this year (including the same said hydrasynth...and a tele thinline...and a Beebo...and...and..and...). Call it whatever kind of dysfunction you want. Ima blame it on "2020" (though truth be told, 2019 wasn't all that different - Oooops). But in all seriousness, something I've done is do a "pedal of the week" or set a weekly goal on something I want to rewire or learn or accomplish. It helps keep it light without making it too stressful, but still moving forward. We all have the constraint of time and motivation and I can only commit so much of my time to my fun - aka music/gear/what-have-you...sometimes/most-times I just wanna play and make music. get a few loops going, jam with myself, build an ambient bed...always make some music that I'm kicking myself that I wasn't recording ;)

For that week, I'll make said gear a bit more accessible...leaving the manual out, maybe watching a few youtube videos when I want to just sit and stare at a screen and try to give that device some amount of attention. Sometimes I'll try to overlap gear, like the Hydrasynth and the Beebo and work on both at the same time. The key is this is supposed to be fun. With all hobbies, GAS is inevitable, especially in weird times like these where we are stuck at home and have more time to browse or read about or even more cash cause we haven't been to a bar or a concert in 10 months!@@!#!#! so we end up with more than what we've mastered. That's a great problem to have, but still a problem none-the-less. Put one device away, set the other one up. Rotate. When inspiration hits, let it. This is supposed to be fun. Like birthdays when you were a kid, you ended up with too many cool toys to play with at the same time. You got this ;)

that was more of a pep talk to myself than to you @lordradish
Ha!

What I'm finding helpful, actually, is whatever device I'm working on, I take it out of the studio, and sit on the couch or in bed. It keeps me more focused... no other synths, no daw, etc.

Finances dictate my GAS is coming to an end, but in all honesty, I can't really think of anything that would fall under 'need' at this point, but if a Matriarch or Grandmother fell into my lap, I certainly wouldn't complain.
 
I already have one on my bass pedalboard. I can say, without reservation, that's definitely NOT what I'm looking for here. If I was into chaos, sure, but I'm that ambient guy. I need nice long, smooth delays.

it's in that box. Don't be fooled by all the bells and whistles, the Particle can do regular delay like no one's business...and if you dare, sprinkle like 20% reverse into all your regular delay settings. Especially if it's already on your board. I use my particle mostly for normal delay things. I've barely scratched the surface on the weird (re - my other post about needing to spend more time with what I have before amassing more).
 
Heh on that whole gas thing... I’ve “completed my board” hahaha yeah... right... except I’ve left a spot free just so I don’t have to run my wah on battery. and now keep looking at pedals I don’t even like, like the bk3 just as something To put there...
or go silly and look at a hardware synth like a bass station 2 and then a way to use my board for bass and synth even though I have got more soft synths that I haven’t explored fully.
More dreaming with not enough time to play though, ah well...
 
it's in that box. Don't be fooled by all the bells and whistles, the Particle can do regular delay like no one's business...and if you dare, sprinkle like 20% reverse into all your regular delay settings. Especially if it's already on your board. I use my particle mostly for normal delay things. I've barely scratched the surface on the weird (re - my other post about needing to spend more time with what I have before amassing more).
Oh, I know. It's my 'chaos' pedal on my board, for that rare instance I want some chaos. I'd just as soon get a pedal that just has what I need, though, as, although the Particle can do trad delay, it's not its specialty, and I can think of a lot of pedals that do trad delay much better. Rather have something easy and straightforward in terms of getting the sounds I want.
 
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I feel you, @lordradish and @cosmicevan

Here's my self-crit.

2020 was a so-so year for GAS and for music. Obviously, Covid--Quebec shut down literally the day that my instrumental band was set to go into the studio to record a new record. We were tight and had been working on the songs for like a year, and we were full of great ideas and now...it'll be awhile, and the studio we were going to go to is no more.

Gearwise, I got some great stuff that I love, like the Blooper, a few duds, and a very expensive touch guitar instrument that is an absolute joy to play but much heavier than I was promised (he promised "light weight" and I got 10#, which he says isn't 10#), and which may or may not be a keeper for that reason. But it sounds great and I love the neck and I can play it sitting down no problem, and it's beautiful to look at.

I also got really good and fast at editing, mixing, and processing in Logic, making podcasts for my students twice a week (and every week I made a new synth or sampler patch to run the course's theme music through, which was a Numerology sequence). So in the end I guess I "finished" 14 1-minute tracks, they're just all the same "song." My wife and I have also written 5 songs that we may record over spring break. Or if we are high enough priority in the Quebec vaccine plan, we might even just wait and record in a studio--they will certainly want the business.

The problem was that I pretty much bought whatever I wanted this year, but by mid fall early November), I didn't have enough time to experiment with gear and do the playing I wanted. So my playing areas got cluttered with unfinished experiments, which meant they got in the way of playing when I had half an hour to play. Fatigue doesn't help either since by November I was just melting into the couch in the evenings after a 10 hour day of work. The reverb journey earlier this year was worth it, but I probably should have quit while I was ahead.

I'm not a neat freak by any means, but when I'm exhausted, clutter is really, really bad for my creativity. It's like 3D menu diving.

Still, if I look back, I did solve some problems I'd had in the past. I've got a little mic hanging over my guitar speaker which can go right into my Sony PCM-D50 to capture improvisations. I've got a matrix mixer so I can change the order of effects on the fly, and I finally have a looper I really like. After a 6-year journey with modular I also have a clear sense of what I like and don't like, though I will ultimately have to decide if I want to stick with Numerology and the computer for step sequencing (which I know really well and love but time away from the computer is a good thing) or really commit to the Vector sequencer, which I love in theory but am not finding as instantly gratifying.

I've also gotten good and fast at synth programming and patching, assuming the interface isn't stupid. My wife and I have been using the drone commander at practice, but it's a PITA to tune in-between songs. I just borrowed the DSI Mopho Keys which is on permanent loan to the keyboardist in one of my bands (and lives in the space) and within 5 minutes, had a credible drone commander patch up and running. Couldn't do that when I bought it back in 2010.

So for 2021, my goal is pret-a-cuisiner at all times. There will be a little table with effects by my amp, and the modular will be converted to a semi-modular with a more or less permanent patch that I won't undo unless I have time to re-do it. If I want to mess around with something, fine, but not in my musical workspace.

For the touch instrument, I also did what I should have done in the first place and went to a local luthier to have him build me what I want. That'll be a few more months before it's done, but he's really into it as a creative project and a new challenge, and gets what I want to do (and listens to me), I appreciate that.
 
I feel you, @lordradish and @cosmicevan

Here's my self-crit.

2020 was a so-so year for GAS and for music. Obviously, Covid--Quebec shut down literally the day that my instrumental band was set to go into the studio to record a new record. We were tight and had been working on the songs for like a year, and we were full of great ideas and now...it'll be awhile, and the studio we were going to go to is no more.

Gearwise, I got some great stuff that I love, like the Blooper, a few duds, and a very expensive touch guitar instrument that is an absolute joy to play but much heavier than I was promised (he promised "light weight" and I got 10#, which he says isn't 10#), and which may or may not be a keeper for that reason. But it sounds great and I love the neck and I can play it sitting down no problem, and it's beautiful to look at.

I also got really good and fast at editing, mixing, and processing in Logic, making podcasts for my students twice a week (and every week I made a new synth or sampler patch to run the course's theme music through, which was a Numerology sequence). So in the end I guess I "finished" 14 1-minute tracks, they're just all the same "song." My wife and I have also written 5 songs that we may record over spring break. Or if we are high enough priority in the Quebec vaccine plan, we might even just wait and record in a studio--they will certainly want the business.

The problem was that I pretty much bought whatever I wanted this year, but by mid fall early November), I didn't have enough time to experiment with gear and do the playing I wanted. So my playing areas got cluttered with unfinished experiments, which meant they got in the way of playing when I had half an hour to play. Fatigue doesn't help either since by November I was just melting into the couch in the evenings after a 10 hour day of work. The reverb journey earlier this year was worth it, but I probably should have quit while I was ahead.

I'm not a neat freak by any means, but when I'm exhausted, clutter is really, really bad for my creativity. It's like 3D menu diving.

Still, if I look back, I did solve some problems I'd had in the past. I've got a little mic hanging over my guitar speaker which can go right into my Sony PCM-D50 to capture improvisations. I've got a matrix mixer so I can change the order of effects on the fly, and I finally have a looper I really like. After a 6-year journey with modular I also have a clear sense of what I like and don't like, though I will ultimately have to decide if I want to stick with Numerology and the computer for step sequencing (which I know really well and love but time away from the computer is a good thing) or really commit to the Vector sequencer, which I love in theory but am not finding as instantly gratifying.

I've also gotten good and fast at synth programming and patching, assuming the interface isn't stupid. My wife and I have been using the drone commander at practice, but it's a PITA to tune in-between songs. I just borrowed the DSI Mopho Keys which is on permanent loan to the keyboardist in one of my bands (and lives in the space) and within 5 minutes, had a credible drone commander patch up and running. Couldn't do that when I bought it back in 2010.

So for 2021, my goal is pret-a-cuisiner at all times. There will be a little table with effects by my amp, and the modular will be converted to a semi-modular with a more or less permanent patch that I won't undo unless I have time to re-do it. If I want to mess around with something, fine, but not in my musical workspace.

For the touch instrument, I also did what I should have done in the first place and went to a local luthier to have him build me what I want. That'll be a few more months before it's done, but he's really into it as a creative project and a new challenge, and gets what I want to do (and listens to me), I appreciate that.
Pics of touch instrument??
 
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Pics of touch instrument??

Here's a glamour shot of the front:

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And the back:

t8back.jpg


As for @Feral Feline 's request for "pics of everything," I've already cleaned up the pedals table, but here's the synth area in full disaster mode (it was neat and in use on November 1st, and the eurorack was full).

shagedsynthtable.jpg


And that is why I should not have nice things.
 
I feel you, @lordradish and @cosmicevan

Here's my self-crit.

2020 was a so-so year for GAS and for music. Obviously, Covid--Quebec shut down literally the day that my instrumental band was set to go into the studio to record a new record. We were tight and had been working on the songs for like a year, and we were full of great ideas and now...it'll be awhile, and the studio we were going to go to is no more.

Gearwise, I got some great stuff that I love, like the Blooper, a few duds, and a very expensive touch guitar instrument that is an absolute joy to play but much heavier than I was promised (he promised "light weight" and I got 10#, which he says isn't 10#), and which may or may not be a keeper for that reason. But it sounds great and I love the neck and I can play it sitting down no problem, and it's beautiful to look at.

I also got really good and fast at editing, mixing, and processing in Logic, making podcasts for my students twice a week (and every week I made a new synth or sampler patch to run the course's theme music through, which was a Numerology sequence). So in the end I guess I "finished" 14 1-minute tracks, they're just all the same "song." My wife and I have also written 5 songs that we may record over spring break. Or if we are high enough priority in the Quebec vaccine plan, we might even just wait and record in a studio--they will certainly want the business.

The problem was that I pretty much bought whatever I wanted this year, but by mid fall early November), I didn't have enough time to experiment with gear and do the playing I wanted. So my playing areas got cluttered with unfinished experiments, which meant they got in the way of playing when I had half an hour to play. Fatigue doesn't help either since by November I was just melting into the couch in the evenings after a 10 hour day of work. The reverb journey earlier this year was worth it, but I probably should have quit while I was ahead.

I'm not a neat freak by any means, but when I'm exhausted, clutter is really, really bad for my creativity. It's like 3D menu diving.

Still, if I look back, I did solve some problems I'd had in the past. I've got a little mic hanging over my guitar speaker which can go right into my Sony PCM-D50 to capture improvisations. I've got a matrix mixer so I can change the order of effects on the fly, and I finally have a looper I really like. After a 6-year journey with modular I also have a clear sense of what I like and don't like, though I will ultimately have to decide if I want to stick with Numerology and the computer for step sequencing (which I know really well and love but time away from the computer is a good thing) or really commit to the Vector sequencer, which I love in theory but am not finding as instantly gratifying.

I've also gotten good and fast at synth programming and patching, assuming the interface isn't stupid. My wife and I have been using the drone commander at practice, but it's a PITA to tune in-between songs. I just borrowed the DSI Mopho Keys which is on permanent loan to the keyboardist in one of my bands (and lives in the space) and within 5 minutes, had a credible drone commander patch up and running. Couldn't do that when I bought it back in 2010.

So for 2021, my goal is pret-a-cuisiner at all times. There will be a little table with effects by my amp, and the modular will be converted to a semi-modular with a more or less permanent patch that I won't undo unless I have time to re-do it. If I want to mess around with something, fine, but not in my musical workspace.

For the touch instrument, I also did what I should have done in the first place and went to a local luthier to have him build me what I want. That'll be a few more months before it's done, but he's really into it as a creative project and a new challenge, and gets what I want to do (and listens to me), I appreciate that.

What matrix mixer did you get?
 
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