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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

Likewise, I can't help with the mixer question, because I'm currently using a Yamaha 01V which is most definitely not portable for onstage gigging purposes. Sure has some fun features though!

Am I misremembering, or did Mackie some time in the last ~10 years stop having all the really useful/functional features on their small-format mixers and replace them with models that only had stupid crap on them? I feel like every time I go looking for a 1402VLZ-equivalent all I find is some Behringer knockoff. But admittedly I haven't been paying too much attention to Mackie or the small-format mixer industry lately.
 
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wish list:

3 aux sends with pre-post fader options (might live with 2)
I have yet to hear onboard FX I like so none, or bypassable
10 input channels or more 6 mic pres is nice but not essential. I have outboard and won’t use a ton of mics.
Would love to be able to output to computer per track but not essential. I have no use for 2-4 channel USB.
Compact (over 16” depth is an issue unless the connections are on the back, not the top)

current candidates:

Mackie 1402VLZ4
Presonus ar12c
A&H Zed 14
Both the Mackie and A&H seem pretty good. Very similar.
I’ve had issues with presonus QC.....had preamps crap out on me for no reason.
 
I love George Lynch. Incredible guitarist.

Apropos of nothing: Way back in the early 1990s when I sucked up my pride and took a 3-month gig as the GB bassist on a cruise ship, I met and occasionally hung out with George Lynch's dad (also named Bob). Really nice guy, very funny, and extremely proud of his son's accomplishments. He was a professional gigolo. I am not kidding.


I also think 80s Yes is better than it gets credit for. I regret nothing.

I like 90120 a lot. There are several tunes on Big Generator that I admire/appreciate a lot. Arguably if they weren't Yes albums (in name) they would get more credit, because the playing and production is as good as if not better than 90% of the stuff that came out at the same time...but that Yes moniker means they got held to a different standard.

Not sure I can stomach anything else they did with Trevor Rabin in the fold.
 


I was thinking more...







My Mom's been deaf in one ear ever since I can remember, she got hearing aids that transmit sound from the non-hearing ear to the "good" ear, which also needs a lot of help now. When she takes here aids out for the night and sleeps with her "good" ear against the pillow, not even Deep Purple playing at her bedside could wake her ... bit dangerous if a fire etc were to break out... wouldn't even hear her two deaf-dogs barking (one deaf from birth, the other through age).

Beethoven, Django Reinhardt, Evelyn Glennie, Tony Iommi, Pertti Kurikan Nimipäivät... whatever their challenge, there are many musicians to take inspiration from.

@lordradish — Wish you well in your journey forward.
 
Reviews are pretty much unanimously positive.
I think the capacitive keyboard would not be an issue and the poly aftertouch would be awesome.
I dig the sounds I’m hearing in demos. (I have no clue how « versatile » it gets though.)
4 voice polyphonie is cool , considering most others at the price point are mono.
I can kinda cheat that and stack samples to make huge chordal voicings.

Thanks for the tips my friend.

I'm still not getting how the plaits euro module can have a keyboard plugged in.

(Puts newb hat on)

the other *potential* benefit of the capacitive keyboard could be if you can bend the pitch using it—especially if you can get different pitch changes per note. might be able to get some microtonal stuff out of it?

obviously this is conjecture.

it would also be nice to know if the pitch strip on the mf is like the hs. if it is you might be able to hold a chord (three notes here) and play theremin melodies on the top.

looks like it also has vocoder ability (firmware update), which might be nice for you?
 
I was thinking more...




My Mom's been deaf in one ear ever since I can remember, she got hearing aids that transmit sound from the non-hearing ear to the "good" ear, which also needs a lot of help now. When she takes here aids out for the night and sleeps with her "good" ear against the pillow, not even Deep Purple playing at her bedside could wake her ... bit dangerous if a fire etc were to break out... wouldn't even hear her two deaf-dogs barking (one deaf from birth, the other through age).

Beethoven, Django Reinhardt, Evelyn Glennie, Tony Iommi, Pertti Kurikan Nimipäivät... whatever their challenge, there are many musicians to take inspiration from.

@lordradish — Wish you well in your journey forward.

Thanks.

Did he steal that from Ric Nielsen?
 
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the other *potential* benefit of the capacitive keyboard could be if you can bend the pitch using it—especially if you can get different pitch changes per note. might be able to get some microtonal stuff out of it?

obviously this is conjecture.

it would also be nice to know if the pitch strip on the mf is like the hs. if it is you might be able to hold a chord (three notes here) and play theremin melodies on the top.

looks like it also has vocoder ability (firmware update), which might be nice for you?
Yeah. Saw a demo where the guy held a chord and used the strip to glide it up and down.
Also saw the vocoder, but did not delve into it yet.

Seems to be my best choice for the $ atm.
 
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Apropos of nothing: Way back in the early 1990s when I sucked up my pride and took a 3-month gig as the GB bassist on a cruise ship, I met and occasionally hung out with George Lynch's dad (also named Bob). Really nice guy, very funny, and extremely proud of his son's accomplishments. He was a professional gigolo. I am not kidding.

This may be the greatest paragraph ever composed in the history of this server.
 
Apropos of nothing: Way back in the early 1990s when I sucked up my pride and took a 3-month gig as the GB bassist on a cruise ship, I met and occasionally hung out with George Lynch's dad (also named Bob). Really nice guy, very funny, and extremely proud of his son's accomplishments. He was a professional gigolo. I am not kidding.

Epic.
I propose this to be an early contender for post of the year 2021.
 
Apropos of nothing: Way back in the early 1990s when I sucked up my pride and took a 3-month gig as the GB bassist on a cruise ship, I met and occasionally hung out with George Lynch's dad (also named Bob). Really nice guy, very funny, and extremely proud of his son's accomplishments. He was a professional gigolo. I am not kidding

the vast and wondrous tapestry of human experience.
 
the vast and wondrous tapestry of human experience.
If you ever meet a good ex cop ( I mean a cool guy, real good person) or ex prison guard.

My friend, sit down and listen cuz the ones I’ve met have the most insane stories for days.

Last one I met was a retired ex prison director that was driving bus with me last year. Worked 35 years in the cities biggest prison. I had coffee with him every morning with him last winter. I just sat and listened, picked up my jaw from the floor and went back driving for the rest of the day. He was such a cool guy.
 
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A gloomy drone track with my drone/ambient project "Fjernsind" (previously sharing my own name "Jacob Læby"), made from manipulated samples of a recording of me playing harmonics on my bass :



"Does it now seem worth all the color of skies?
To see the earth through painted eyes
To look through panes of shaded glass
See the stains of winter's grass"


- "Clothes of Sand", Nick Drake


All the music I have created with this project can be listened to and downloaded for free through the project's Bandcamp page, here : Fjernsind
 
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A gloomy drone track with my drone/ambient project "Fjernsind" (previously sharing my own name "Jacob Læby"), made from manipulated samples of a recording of me playing harmonics on my bass :



"Does it now seem worth all the color of skies?
To see the earth through painted eyes
To look through panes of shaded glass
See the stains of winter's grass"


- "Clothes of Sand", Nick Drake


All the music I have created with this project can be listened to and downloaded for free through the project's Bandcamp page, here : Fjernsind

Really nice, gonna check out your page.

Thanks for sharing! Ya should stick around.
 
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A gloomy drone track with my drone/ambient project "Fjernsind" (previously sharing my own name "Jacob Læby"), made from manipulated samples of a recording of me playing harmonics on my bass :



"Does it now seem worth all the color of skies?
To see the earth through painted eyes
To look through panes of shaded glass
See the stains of winter's grass"


- "Clothes of Sand", Nick Drake


All the music I have created with this project can be listened to and downloaded for free through the project's Bandcamp page, here : Fjernsind

Cool textures.
How did you manipulate the samples??
Daw, sampler, sequencer, fx?

Extra cool points for the nick drake quote.
;)
 
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Really nice, gonna check out your page.

Thanks for sharing! Ya should stick around.

Thank you. :)

Glad you liked it.

Don't expect all the tracks to sound like this though, cause I use a lot of different composition and recording methods for creating tracks for this project.

So even if all the tracks with this project is undeniably related in some way and from the same sort of universe the individual tracks between embraces a wide variety of different expressions.

Some are purely electronically founded, some are created from manipulated physically recorded tracks, which might include a lot of different instruments, or just one single one like in this case, some are hybrids between these two forms, some are ugly, unsettling, noisy and abrasive, while others are beautiful, comforting, calm and soothing, some are more drone than ambient, and some are more ambient than drone, and a few are almost closer to something that could be considered noise music, some with lyrics, others not, some sung, some spoken word, some with my own voice, some with a text to speech synthesize program, all sharing a common soul though, and most of them being in the darker and more experimental end of the musical spectrum.
 
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Cool textures.
How did you manipulate the samples??
Daw, sampler, sequencer, fx?

Extra cool points for the nick drake quote.
;)

Some careful cutting, copy, pasting and a bit of cross fading from the recorded bass track in a DAW, using a time stretch effect from a wav editor program and various VST effects in my DAW, as far as I recall utilizing several tracks as well, initially though it was just a single 1 track recording of me playing harmonics on my bass, impro style, I think through a phaser and a flanger effect pedal mixed in parallel via my Boss LS-2.

I don't remember the exact details of how I created it though, and I might have got some of the stuff above wrong as well.
 
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