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I've realized I need a volume pedal, if for no other reason than doing swells with a bunch of reverb and delay piled on. Can anyone recommend a good one that is transparent?

Interested to see the responses... I can give you a pretty healthy list of all the ones that aren't transparent, aka all the ones I currently own.

But the only one of those I would ever consider recommending is the Ernie Ball, and from what I've heard from other users its transparency is directly related to what other equipment you have up- or down-stream of it, so not sure I should recommend it unequivocally.
 
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This seems like the best place to ask...

I've realized I need a volume pedal, if for no other reason than doing swells with a bunch of reverb and delay piled on. Can anyone recommend a good one that is transparent? Thanks!

How far do you stick your pinky out when you sip your tea?
I've got the Dunlop Mini which also does expression, and it has been decent, thought I don't use it heavily. It can have a bit of mechanical creaking when moving the pedal, but only noticeable in quiet environments. Word around the campfire is that the Lehle is the way to go if you've got $300 for a volume pedal. I believe Ernie Ball makes one that is well respected, but I've got no personal experience.
 
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I'm too ignorant to know where in the signal chain it should go!

If you put it at the beginning, then gain based effects like compression and distortion will be altered by the pedal position.

If you put it at the end, you get the same gain structure going into the distortion and comp pedals, so you get the same tone getting louder/quieter. At the end, you can cut the tails off of delays and reverbs.

If you put it after gain boxes but before time-based boxes, you won't change the tone through the sweep of the pedal, and the time-based tails will ring out.
 
If you put it at the beginning, then gain based effects like compression and distortion will be altered by the pedal position.

If you put it at the end, you get the same gain structure going into the distortion and comp pedals, so you get the same tone getting louder/quieter. At the end, you can cut the tails off of delays and reverbs.

If you put it after gain boxes but before time-based boxes, you won't change the tone through the sweep of the pedal, and the time-based tails will ring out.
Never forget to consider impedance when choosing placement of the volume pedal.
Crucial but often ignored.
 
Never forget to consider impedance when choosing placement of the volume pedal.
Crucial but often ignored.

Easy point to miss, though not always easy to identify.

The Malekko VCA I bought might've been misbehaving due to an impedance mismatch with another module. I've rearranged the rack and now it is behaving better, so I think I'll keep it at this point.
 
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Easy point to miss, though not always easy to identify.

The Malekko VCA I bought might've been misbehaving due to an impedance mismatch with another module. I've rearranged the rack and now it is behaving better, so I think I'll keep it at this point.
That's why I still dream of a stereo line level compatible dirt pedal.

One day....
 
I'm too ignorant to know where in the signal chain it should go!

mostly i do any distortion/overdrive stuff or envelope filter stuff before the volume pedal. that way i don’t get the noise of the overdrive when the volume pedal is off. it also allows me to have maximum input into the efx pedals.

then i do most time-based stuff like chorus/delay/reverb after the volume pedal. helps to create better swells into those things. and avoids hitting something into a delay where you want something smooth and hear jerky delay repeats instead.

i put a looper way at the end (in general, unless i use a second mini looper before the volume pedal i can have stealth loops).

i use ancient roland ev-60s. they’re stereo and lightweight.

my guess is that no volume pedal is completely transparent.
 
This seems like the best place to ask...

I've realized I need a volume pedal, if for no other reason than doing swells with a bunch of reverb and delay piled on. Can anyone recommend a good one that is transparent? Thanks!
I have two. The Dunlop mini is passive and convenient for City gigs. The Lehle is the best volume pedal that I know of. It needs power and is heavy though. Definitely the best that you can get, and well worth the money if you always use a volume pedal. The Dunlop is great for what it is, though.
 
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Ambient jam from last night. Used my Dingwall ng2, TC nova repeater, tc ditto. recorded with a zoom q8. Crappy camera angle and the ditto level was too high and caused some clipping but it’s whatever. Been a rough couple of weeks. Needed some meditation time.


Is that Fozzie or or Catbus behind you?
 
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cool. so playing along with the loop?
No! There is (was) no loops in my recorded BASS lines as i use loopers for layering/lo-fi tones with my synths. The reason is very simple: using of loopers with pads is much easier than with bass as i am neither perfect in tempo nor quantization of loops. But, may be later i'll use my CBA Blooper with some of my basses... i hope so.
 
No! There is (was) no loops in my recorded BASS lines as i use loopers for layering/lo-fi tones with my synths. The reason is very simple: using of loopers with pads is much easier than with bass as i am neither perfect in tempo nor quantization of loops. But, may be later i'll use my CBA Blooper with some of my basses... i hope so.

so how did you get the two different voices?
 
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