That song and video are each amazing. It’s like Ministry and Strapping Young Lad went to a Melvins concert and decided to do an album.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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That song and video are each amazing. It’s like Ministry and Strapping Young Lad went to a Melvins concert and decided to do an album.
I listened to the album while on a 30 minute drive and enjoyed it. Almost went to the local CD shop to try and grab a hardcopy but decided against it - too busy! To be honest, I have never listened to any of the bands you mentioned! This new album is definitely more "melodic" - it's kind of funny how they're including that in the promotional stuff.
Finally going back and listening to stuff from the last few pages! Still have a ways to go, but for now:
I especially liked the second one, the way it was obvious that it was bass, but then that started getting chopped up.
Good reminder re: new computer - at some point I'm going to have to face the reality of upgrading my 13 year old setup.
My experience with some passive pickups is that the sound of the pick hitting the pickup can be audible in the audio signal.
I especially liked the second one, the way it was obvious that it was bass, but then that started getting chopped up.
Good reminder re: new computer - at some point I'm going to have to face the reality of upgrading my 13 year old setup.
My experience with some passive pickups is that the sound of the pick hitting the pickup can be audible in the audio signal.
Some of the drum parts reminded me of these Melvins songs.
Devin Townsend and Strapping Young Lad have so much range. Alien is definitely a metal album, but it has layers. Some songs develop and change quite a bit, so you can't just listen to the first verse & chorus and have it all figured out.
This is a good track to get sorted. Also, be prepared if you google the band phots. Devin's look in the Alien era was rough.
This track of theirs could be of interest in this thread.
Ministry. Man, anything after Twitch (definitely not With Sympathy) will be undeniably influential to anything with an industrial leaning. 1989's A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste is a favorite.
In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing will show you their live energy. Plus two drummers and a chainlink fence. What more do you need?
some excellent sonics in there on headphones.
love the ministry.
but i’ve heard that al jourgensen is crazy.
paul barker is bad ass (bass sound on filth pig is epic) and seems like a nice dude when i met him at namm.
but don’t forget skinny puppy when you start talking about industrial, okay? (and imo, tackhead, too)
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I have a few Lorn records and really think he has a singular perspective on electronic stuff. It’s not programming trickery as much as just a great sense of composition and space
Huge Skinny Puppy fan as a kid. Some of their stuff stands the test of time better than others, but I love em. Einsturzende Neubaten are still the kings of so called industrial music for me. Current 93, Throbbing Gristle and Test Dept were a big part of my youth too
@dukeorock
I like that dudes channel despite all the chip tune hipster nonsense!
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Perhaps foolishly I just ordered the Oxi One sequencer, along with their case, splitter and midi/cv converter. It’s a pre order so I have no idea when I’ll see it. Supposedly sometime in April.
Went down a strange wizard rock rabbithole tonight. I don’t care, Steve Howe is awesome even within all the goofball trappings of Yes. So much joy in his playing.
This led me to finding out Bill Bruford has his own YouTube channel and it’s awesome. Great archival footage. I’d never heard the project he had that was just him and three mallet players. Like a rock version of Steve Reich. Enjoying it a lot
Went down a strange wizard rock rabbithole tonight. I don’t care, Steve Howe is awesome even within all the goofball trappings of Yes. So much joy in his playing.
This led me to finding out Bill Bruford has his own YouTube channel and it’s awesome. Great archival footage. I’d never heard the project he had that was just him and three mallet players. Like a rock version of Steve Reich. Enjoying it a lot
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Oh, and through Duane Denison I became pals with Paul Barker. Sweetest dude ever
I continued working on ideas for dynamic live playing/jamming with the Erica Black and Qu Bit Bloom sequencers. I think I've got a few things sorted, but I'm working on making them intuitive.
The Erica organizes things by Projects:
1. Every Project has a 16 Banks.
2. Every Bank has 16 Patterns.
a. Every Bank can have 16 Songs, which are combinations of the Patterns within it (below).
3. Every Pattern has 4 Channels.
I'm trying to wrap my brain around organizing the Patterns and Banks and Songs. I'm not sure I understand the reason for the Bank layer. I figured programming stuff will eventually reveal the benefit of this structure, so that's what I'm working on.
Tonight I started a new Project, where each of 8 Patterns is a simple chord arp in C Major (1 = C Maj, 2 = D min, 3 = E min, etc.). I can now link the patterns to create a Song, which will essentially be a chord progression. I'm using the Bloom as a melodic sequencer for some color and variety as each arp plays, and I have it programmed to follow the chord changes from the Erica.
I suppose a benefit of the Bank structure is that now I can use the same set of patterns to make a 1-4-5 song and a 2-5-1 song.
Despite all this brain damage, I managed to generate something that sounds and feels playable and dynamic. I can start adding some bass playing to it tomorrow.
The Erica organizes things by Projects:
1. Every Project has a 16 Banks.
2. Every Bank has 16 Patterns.
a. Every Bank can have 16 Songs, which are combinations of the Patterns within it (below).
3. Every Pattern has 4 Channels.
I'm trying to wrap my brain around organizing the Patterns and Banks and Songs. I'm not sure I understand the reason for the Bank layer. I figured programming stuff will eventually reveal the benefit of this structure, so that's what I'm working on.
Tonight I started a new Project, where each of 8 Patterns is a simple chord arp in C Major (1 = C Maj, 2 = D min, 3 = E min, etc.). I can now link the patterns to create a Song, which will essentially be a chord progression. I'm using the Bloom as a melodic sequencer for some color and variety as each arp plays, and I have it programmed to follow the chord changes from the Erica.
I suppose a benefit of the Bank structure is that now I can use the same set of patterns to make a 1-4-5 song and a 2-5-1 song.
Despite all this brain damage, I managed to generate something that sounds and feels playable and dynamic. I can start adding some bass playing to it tomorrow.
Bruford just started that channel not too long ago. I think he's the only one from Yes that had some serious artistic integrity throughout his career - when he was playing for the money, he was quite upfront about it.
Howe, even though I think most of what he did after 1980 was pure shite, is still one of my fave guitarists, but I think Steve Hackett's moving past him, in that regard.
Yeah, still alive, still mixing albums, poking my head in here and trying to keep up with all the noisy stuff yer' all posting.
industrial music talk and no Godflesh!?!?!?
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Some of the comments he's made regarding his willingly whoring himself out -- not that there's anything wrong with that -- are pretty amazing in terms of the scope of budgets: I recall reading him say something like between the Union album and the subsequent Union tour, he made enough money to fully fund his Earthworks band for two or three years.
Bill Bruford is certainly one of my favorite drummers of all time, and a lot of the music he played on is deeply ingrained in the formative oeuvre that shaped my aesthetic. But between social media and youtube archives and all the new insights [sic] that one can glean into the artists we admire these days, I've come to realize a few things about Bill that aren't helping my enjoyment of his playing:
- he can be opinionated to the point of being combative, which seems to explain a lot about his relationships with bandmates over the decades, and may even explain musical choices he's made; and
- he seems to vacillate between having an overly-elevated opinion of his own skills as a drummer, and being so self-critical as to be insufferable. "I'm great!" "I suck!" "I suck but I'm still greater than you!" It can be tiresome.
In short, I think I liked him better when I only knew about him through listening to his music.
Never meet your heroes.
vacillating between self-adulation and self-loathing seems pretty standard, imo.
i think steve jansen (ex-japan) is sort of an offshoot of the bruford “school.”
this alb is pretty great, imo:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l2MaM-4fqBxyTFUZboXf72iI0cDO4DOic
i think steve jansen (ex-japan) is sort of an offshoot of the bruford “school.”
this alb is pretty great, imo:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l2MaM-4fqBxyTFUZboXf72iI0cDO4DOic
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Skimmed through that…really cool. Will revisit in more detail when I can.
I’m still stuck in the dark, time stretched cinematic thing. Pieced together on the M8, mixed in Logic
