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Another Church players topic-Post: amplification

#161
rockstarbassist said:
Yeah, well this was the thought when my church did it while I was on hiatus.
It's been a nightmare and fight to the death every Sunday AM since.

Unless you have someone back in the booth who's a REALLY, really good monitor engineer, who could possibly switch over to IEMs, good luck- and I mean it. :)
They cut the bass and drums almost completely from FOH and the wedges, but then bump the horns and vox like +15-20 db, so it's just as loud on stage, with no thump.
It's pretty awful.

We're in the process of hiring someone right now though. There's no reason why someone who tours and plays 275 shows a year can deal with IEMs, esp. after setting up and tearing down nightly, who can't find a setting and keep it, with a NICE system that doesn't move. :rollno:
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OUr sounds guys (though volunteers) are fairly good and are good at adjusting "on the fly" when requested to do so...only problem is that we are under a balcony and the view from the sound board is blocked slightly so getting their attention is sometimes an issue....we may rig up some sort of light etc to get their attention.....:smug:
 
#162
Old thread! I've changed amps a billion times since back in June. For worship team stuff at church I use my Yamaha BBT-500H + 2x BBT 110s. Those little cabs smoke! I probably only need to take one, but I like having it higher toward my ear.

With my Christian Rawk + P&W band, I'm still using the Bose PAS system (PS1 + L1 + 2x B1) and now a new-to-me Bass PodXT Live. I'm stoked about my sound now, the Bose is really great stuff. I struggled a bit, but the Line6 unit is a gem and instantly made it work for me. When the venue has a PA, the big daddy aggie comes out to play with my GS410.
 
#163
basspraiser said:
OUr sounds guys (though volunteers) are fairly good and are good at adjusting "on the fly" when requested to do so...only problem is that we are under a balcony and the view from the sound board is blocked slightly so getting their attention is sometimes an issue....we may rig up some sort of light etc to get their attention.....:smug:
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Then you've got a leg up, for sure! ;)

However I just talked to our praise leader last night and stuff is on the change as of the first of next year. It's just too out of hand.

Plus, I didn't even know but our whole second service (praise and sermon) are now broadcast both online and through radio, so I can only imagine how it sounds out in radio land! :bawl: :scowl:
 
#164
I think we need a new Church player thread. Anyways I just got on the Worship team and I got to play twice so far. Not any real songs just kindof gave me a chord progression and let me improvise for about 1 hour. Letting the preacher sing/talk while we play and make a song out of it. Anyways Im sooo happy. They have a Ampeg B1-r and an ampeg 15" But everything else is DI'd. Problem is first I couldn't hear myself. Then the second time I couldn't hear the guitarist. He uses a 30watt mesa boogie lone star combo. Its miked but I don't have any monitor, tho I can get one eventually. Anyways I can't wait till I can play with my NEW GK 1001RB NEW STINGRAY and SOME 4x10 instead of that 15...
 
#165
greetings all,

When I play for the contemporary services, I usually either take my Trace 200 watt head or my SWR 350 and an Avatar 2x10. If the music is really rocking, I might throw an SWR 1x15 under it or set my Trace BM1 2x10 wedge off to the side so that it can cut diagonally through me to the drummer and the percussionist. I usually angle my amp crossways so the rest of the band gets bass on stage. I then run DI to the board.

When I play for choirs, concerts, plays and dramas, I often will take the Trace wedge only. I angle it up directly at my chest, and keep the volume low enough so that only the musicians immediately around me can hear it.... and then of course go to the board.
 
#166
It seems most of us are in the same boat when it comes to problems with sound guys:) I've resigned myself to toting gear on Sunday mornings and not relying on a monitor to hear
Myself.

Last Sunday our drummer was complaining to the leader that the 2nd service sound guy cut monitor levels so low that nothing could be heard; I just sat back and smiled.
(I've been there done that)

The good news is this Sunday for Christmas eve we're doing 3 services really going to rock it out, lead is bringing his Marshall 1/2stack so I'll get to try both GS112s with the YBA200:)
 
#167
For normal Praise and Worship at my home church, I use my rolling rack consisting of: GrooveBass 1200, Samson PowerBrite 7, Boss VF-1, and AKG wireless into my Steelsound 2x10 cab and 2x12 cab (both at 4 ohms).

For smaller churches, I just take one of the two cabs plus the rack...and I have a Line 6 LD150 for even smaller gigs.

Gotta love that versatility!!!
 
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#175
Godsent,
Is that onstage board just for monitors?

We use Ampeg CL heads and some 6x10s, 4x10s for monitors and we go direct for the house. We have great mixers so you can really feel and hear the bass in the main sanctuary. We've had a few quality issues with the Ampegs so we've been keeping an eye on them. I might sell them my Ashdown EVO 900 since I want an Orange AD200 or Hiwatt anyways. The medium sized sanctuary is horrible acoustically. I wouldn't mind if it burned down and we got to rebuild a better venue.

We have great sound people at our church. We have longtime engineers that are in charge. Usually it's the worship band that's the problem. Within the first minute of mixing at the rehearsal, someone is screaming, "I can't hear myself!" Usually, you hear someone responding through the talkback mic, "I mixed for Lynyrd Skynyrd in front of 15,000 people and they didn't complain once." Then it gets quiet. They don't trust our sound techs. I stayed quiet for the first 2 songs of rehearsal and by the third song, they had my inner ears perfect. Our musicians are spoiled. All wireless inner ears, a few Aviom systems, top of the line equipment, and even a big green room with a fridge, mini kitchen and equipment down there...they don't appreciate what they have.
 
#176
yes.we have 3 seperate boards( 48ch allen & heath) one for monitors( pictured, one for house and one for recording.we each have wedges next to us. i use my amp as a monitor for myself. i have a little keys and organ, and a t ad bit more of vocals in my mix. no need for drums since they sit right next to me.we have sound check before each service. i dont complain much, as long as i can hear either vocals or keys im good. sometimes i turn my amp down and play based on the subs in the FOH.!!!!!:hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
 
#178
Ah, good ol' Hotlanta. My church sits right alongside yours. We're ranked in the top 450 churches in the U.S. based on size. It's nice to have access to all that we have though. We're also in excess of 5,000. An hour down the road is Saddleback, which has a congregation of 25,000 and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa is somewhere around 18,000. Insane, I tell you. :)
 
#179
shamrock&roll said:
Ah, good ol' Hotlanta. My church sits right alongside yours. We're ranked in the top 450 churches in the U.S. based on size. It's nice to have access to all that we have though. We're also in excess of 5,000. An hour down the road is Saddleback, which has a congregation of 25,000 and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa is somewhere around 18,000. Insane, I tell you. :)
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really it is. and some people dispute the mega church thing. but what will they say when they get to heaven and there are millions, billions of people there!!
 

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