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Anyone here into old cars?

Tires are the cheapest part of the rebuild, but if the body is good you're most of the way there. Make sure to pull the gas tank and have it cleaned, and re-do the brake cylinders or calipers, whichever it has.[/QUOT
Tires are the cheapest part of the rebuild, but if the body is good you're most of the way there. Make sure to pull the gas tank and have it cleaned, and re-do the brake cylinders or calipers, whichever it has.
yea, gas reduces down over time into a nasty gum, and if it gets into the engine it could seize a valve and damage the engine
 
My dad has a '68 Porsche 4-cylinder 912 that he's had in storage for 40 years. He threw a rod in '76 and never got around to fixing it. It's school bus yellow with pizza-cutter skinny tires. Everyone dreams of finding some obscure low-millage car that's been stashed away for years. I've finally convinced him that we're rebuilding the engine this summer by saying "You're sitting on everyone's dream come true!" But I'm sure every stitch of rubber on the thing is dried out.

Dude......It is time to pull that car out of the garage and get it up and running again. According to the Hagerty Classic Car Price Guide, if it's only average condition it is worth around $30k. If it is primo, it is worth $57,000. Just sayin.
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I've done work on a 70's model and they are a blast!

Dude......It is time to pull that car out of the garage and get it up and running again. According to the Hagerty Classic Car Price Guide, if it's only average condition it is worth around $30k. If it is primo, it is worth $57,000. Just sayin.
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Thanks guys! I know! I've been coxing my dad for a 6 months about this and I finally have him excited. Last summer we put a new engine in his '61 Beetle and it was actually pretty fun. No tools were thrown and no one lost their temper. More importantly, we both got that sense of pride when you look at it and drive it and all the work pays off.

So we both thought of that as the trial for working on his real baby. Now he's actually excited. We're already making plans over the phone. I'm excited, too.
 
Tires are the cheapest part of the rebuild, but if the body is good you're most of the way there. Make sure to pull the gas tank and have it cleaned, and re-do the brake cylinders or calipers, whichever it has.

Thanks for the advice. I never thought of the gas tank. I'm sure the breaks will need work. The first order of business will be to uncover it and roll it out of the garage to see what shape everything is in.
 
Thanks guys! I know! I've been coxing my dad for a 6 months about this and I finally have him excited. Last summer we put a new engine in his '61 Beetle and it was actually pretty fun. No tools were thrown and no one lost their temper. More importantly, we both got that sense of pride when you look at it and drive it and all the work pays off.

So we both thought of that as the trial for working on his real baby. Now he's actually excited. We're already making plans over the phone. I'm excited, too.
Very Cool. You should post some before pictures and then some shots as the project proceeds. . It would be fun to watch the progress. The good thing about restoring an old Porsche is that all the parts are still available with either OEM parts or aftermarket parts. You can even buy all the plastic and rubber interior parts so Porsche's are easy to bring the cosmetics up to new. Anyway...I am glad that you and your dad are excited about it.
 
Very Cool. You should post some before pictures and then some shots as the project proceeds. . It would be fun to watch the progress. The good thing about restoring an old Porsche is that all the parts are still available with either OEM parts or aftermarket parts. You can even buy all the plastic and rubber interior parts so Porsche's are easy to bring the cosmetics up to new. Anyway...I am glad that you and your dad are excited about it.

Yeah, thesamba.com has a lot of people selling used, hard to find parts. Turns out a lot of 912 parts are interchangeable with 356's. I think Porsche used the 912 as a transition so they didn't have to retool the factory completely.

Me and my dad were talking about that point where a lesser car like a 912 actually becomes desirable because it's a rarity. Kind of like in 1983 when Fender removed the silver input jack from strats. Everybody poo-poo'd them and said they weren't real strats. Now they're collectable because they're mutts.
 
Thanks for the advice. I never thought of the gas tank. I'm sure the breaks will need work. The first order of business will be to uncover it and roll it out of the garage to see what shape everything is in.

Part of getting it back on the road safely is to drain and flush the braking system, rebuild or replace brake cylinders and calipers, and replace the brake HOSES to all four wheels. Everybody forgets the brake hoses, but they are surely as old as the car, and by now they're in bad shape. If one pops, you're in for a wreck. No backup braking system on that car!

Even if they work in the shop, don't put it on the road without going through the braking system. I've done this, and trust me, brake are highly neglected and potentially dangerous.

And frankly, I'd rather have a 912 than a 911. Smooth styling, adequate performance, and a lot of class. Also less high-strung and possibly easier on the parts budget.
 
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And frankly, I'd rather have a 912 than a 911. Smooth styling, adequate performance, and a lot of class. Also less high-strung and possibly easier on the parts budget.
Mmmmmm..... I always thought that my 1988' 911 as being barely adequate power wise as it's 0-60 spec is unimpressive 5.8 seconds. But with that said, the car looks like it is going really fast even when it's parked. Or so I been told. :D
 
Part of getting it back on the road safely is to drain and flush the braking system, rebuild or replace brake cylinders and calipers, and replace the brake HOSES to all four wheels. Everybody forgets the brake hoses, but they are surely as old as the car, and by now they're in bad shape. If one pops, you're in for a wreck. No backup braking system on that car!

Even if they work in the shop, don't put it on the road without going through the braking system. I've done this, and trust me, brake are highly neglected and potentially dangerous.

And frankly, I'd rather have a 912 than a 911. Smooth styling, adequate performance, and a lot of class. Also less high-strung and possibly easier on the parts budget.

Thanks. That's great advice.

I talked to my dad this afternoon and he said it's a '66 not a '68. He also said he's got bored out cylinders to boost it from 1600cc to 1720cc. So it should be a fun project.
 
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Also for the record I have always wanted an ES! Great looking cars, in my opinion the BMW Z3 coupe had the same vibe.

Good call on the Z3 coupe. Those have always intrigued me as well. Of course, I'd want an M Coupe.... Saw a Z4 coupe the other day and I guess they're growing on me, or maybe it just looks better in black than the other colors I've seen.

And bob, I feel you're likely correct on the transmission mount. Odd thing is that the Volvo guru replaced it not long ago. I suppose I should stick my head and arms under there.
 
For its era, 5.8 was fast. And today, it will still out-accelerate most of the "normal" cars on the road. Heck, that's on par with a 2009 BMW 328i!

Any car that's under 6 seconds 0-60 today is still in the "quick" category.


Never driven a Porsche, and am not an expert. However, wasn't this the era of 911 that liked to surprise the unsuspecting with pop quizzes in snap oversteer? Maybe 0-60 wasn't the only thing that defined fun. Or terror.
 
And just recently a friend saw my car up in Marin: "Hey, I see you're selling your car." "No, unless you make me a really good offer." No, I just saw it parked near Veterans' (concert hall) in San Rafael with a for sale sign on it." If anyone here knows of this car, I'd appreciate a lead. -bob

If you can find out what day it was parked there, I'd be happy to swing by to see if it's there again. I'm 4 minutes away.
 
And bob, I feel you're likely correct on the transmission mount. Odd thing is that the Volvo guru replaced it not long ago. I suppose I should stick my head and arms under there.

You could do a little troubleshooting beforehand to attempt to isolate the culprit. I'm no expert but I might try setting the parking brake and with the transmission in gear release the clutch pedal somewhat rapidly but only just enough to get approx 200rpm drop, while listening for the clunk. If it's audible it may be possible to get a more precise location using an assistant to zero-in by ear and look underneath (without of course actually being underneath) the car with a flashlight to see if the tranny or perhaps an exhaust component appears to be moving in a way that corresponds to the clunk. Engine mounts can also clunk under the same conditions, and while they aren't located amidships as you described, it might not hurt to check them. A broken U-joint can also cause a clunking sound while accelerating, changing gears, and decelerating. I don't know of any overdrive problems that result in clunking but then again I'm no expert...
 
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