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AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...

#502
g4string said:
Anybody wanna speculate how a 1203 would/will stack up against an Aguilar DB112. Kinda wondering if a 1203 stack would suite me better than a db112 stack.
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The 1203 is going to have a lot more going on in the upper mids. It has impressive smoothness, too, considering how upper-mid present it is. Personally, I'd prefer the 1203 by a long shot, but YMMV. Other players might very well prefer the Aggie.
 
#504
tombowlus said:
The 1203 is going to have a lot more going on in the upper mids. It has impressive smoothness, too, considering how upper-mid present it is. Personally, I'd prefer the 1203 by a long shot, but YMMV. Other players might very well prefer the Aggie.
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Looking forward to trying it out. Might be what displaces the Baers as my first-call cab.
 
#505
Pretty sure (like 99.9%) certain I'm in on a 1203. Was debating going "all in" for a stack.....but after some thought, I'm thinking a single cab 1st, see how I like it -THEN- order a 2nd if all is well. I'll hold onto the DB112's till I know the 1203(s) are replacement worthy.
 
#506
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#508
tombowlus said:
The 1203 is going to have a lot more going on in the upper mids. It has impressive smoothness, too, considering how upper-mid present it is. Personally, I'd prefer the 1203 by a long shot, but YMMV. Other players might very well prefer the Aggie.
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Thank you very much, Tom.

What I did in the upper mids is, get fairly deliberate about which areas get emphasized and which do not, aiming for an electric-bass-friendly tone. On the other hand, I do not expect the Hathors 1203 and 1855 to work well for upright bass. I do intend to get back into the upright bass market, but that's still down the road a bit.

And something I'd like to mention is, there is no way the 1203 will outperform a larger vented box cab in both efficiency and low-end extension. One or the other possibly, but not both. In most cases the 1203 will be less efficient, partially making up for that by handling more power than most 112s.
 
#510
I'd love to compare the 1203 to my TC115-8. I'm sure it'll sound different but I don't think it'll work better for me as a single cab solution.

The only place the TC115-8 doesn't work is if the venue is physically small. The size of the cab is intimidating. I've thought about a TC112 but it's not that much smaller.

How about a TC110?
 
#511
I found the TC112 surprisingly smaller and there are lots of benefits to this. I can pack it in the front seat of the car for example - something I've never been able to do with any cabinet. It even goes in sideways! My band rehearses in another city nearby so I load the cab in the front and then I can stack as many basses in the back seat as I want to take along (I like to experiment tonally).

On a tight stage those extra inches make a difference and the 112 also has a different horn (from my 4ohm TC115 anyway) which disperses better vertically when you're right up on it.

Somewhere back aways in this thread there's the explanation about why he's not using a 10. It has much to do with the availability of speakers and their characteristics. Trust Duke to have flushed all of this out to bring you the best/smallest cabinet possible. Of course his mind is always searching for that one little thing to make it even better. :)
 
#512
Looking at Duke's current specs, the 12 is only 3" shorter, 3" narrower and 6 pounds lighter than the 15.

For small venues, I'm talking really small. I use a Genz Benz 3.0-8t combo. It's approx 14x12x10 and weighs 13.5 pounds. I can't believe I'm typing this but I'd be willing to give up some sonic goodness for a small, light footprint. Sometimes, life is a compromise.

I really believe what Duke would give up sound wise making a TC110 would still sound better than the competition.
 
#517
LeonD said:
I really believe what Duke would give up sound wise making a TC110 would still sound better than the competition.
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there were a few of us who asked for such a thing. duke basically said that the 10s couldn't come up with what he felt was necessary. and thus the idea for the hathor 1203 was born.

or so i remember. (you might do a search for tc110 and see if you find anything on tb.)
 
#519
LeonD said:
How about a TC110?
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PDGood said:
Somewhere back aways in this thread there's the explanation about why he's not using a 10. It has much to do with the availability of speakers and their characteristics.
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Yup. I haven't found a 10" woofer that's really the counterpart to the Kappalite 3012LF. The 3010LF doesn't go up as high and is harder to cross over, so I'd have to either go with a much beefier compression driver or add a midrange, a real midrange, not a little 3" cone that's functioning more like a tweeter. By then, it's a heavier and more expensive cab. And greenboy is already making that cab in his Fearless 110.

On the other hand, the 3012LF can be shoehorned into a pretty darn small box, and it reaches up high enough so that I can get away with using that little bitty cone mid, so that's what I did.

That being said, I do have a couple of ideas for a smaller-gig cab.

PDGood said:
Maybe he can design a stool with a speaker built in it so that the cab takes up 0% more room than the player!
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Interesting idea! But then where would the amp go? Maybe the cab would have legs tall enough to clear a small amp. Would that work?

The logical thing might be a stool-like combo amp, but I don't want to do a combo amp because I'm not an amplifier technician, and don't want to sell something I can't fix.
 

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