AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...

[Passinwind]

Version 1

That's what I have, in the AF version. It's pretty easy to end up positioned out of that horn's 50 degree vertical dispersion pattern, and the cab sounds quite a bit less airy to me when that happens. As a fretless-only player that rarely bugs me though. With bass mine never feels aggressive, but with synth it definitely can get there if I'm right on-axis.

 

[tombowlus]

So you 1203 users, would that cab put me in the ballpark of ML112/TC112 tone combination?

Somewhat, yes.

 

[Mark Sacchetti]

The tc112v2 8 ohm is a little more aggressive than its predecessor v1. The V2 4 ohm is smoother more like v1.
Duke's cabs are very responsive to EQ. You can really dial in and mold your tone as needed.

The v2 8 ohm I had here didn't last long here, when a friend heard it he bought it on the spot! He also has the TC115. He tells me all the time they're the best cabs he has ever owned.
I presently own the 1203s and love the voicing on this cab.

 

[maisbass]

Thanks guys. The TC112 sounded really good tonight. I think it pairs up really well with my Glock and Nordy VPJ5. The Nordy can be aggressive in the upper mids and the TC seemed to tame them a bit tonight. That was my original intent, to use the TC112 with that setup as a nice compact setup that packs a wallop.

I tell ya the cab handled my MXR octave deluxe fantastic! I never played through any single 12 that reproduced the octave below like this cab does. It was clean and thunderous. I'm talking an octave under Ab on the E string and it didn't sweat it at all. It sounded huge! No warble. Sweet.

 

[g4string]

The TC cabs are fantastic. I love, love, love, the v1 TV cabs. Friggin genius pieces of gear. From what I can gather, it sounds like the new 1203 is the answer for those who want an edgier TC cab, yet while still retaining the major qualities that make a TC cab a TC cab.

 

[Doug Parent]

The TC cabs are fantastic. I love, love, love, the v1 TV cabs. Friggin genius pieces of gear. From what I can gather, it sounds like the new 1203 is the answer for those who want an edgier TC cab, yet while still retaining the major qualities that make a TC cab a TC cab.

I'm late to the party. Whats different about the new 1203?

 

[steubig]

sonically or dimensionally?

take a look through here, lots of information.

 

[Doug Parent]

sonically or dimensionally?

take a look through here, lots of information.

I have skipped around through these threads but it's very time consuming. I'm interested in the 1203 cab and the website does not seem to offer any data on it.
I was hoping to get dimensions, pricing, and driver info. Email sent. Thanks.

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[McFarlin]

Look at the bottom of any post by Duke (a couple of pages back) to find a link for that info.

 

[DukeLeJeune]

Hi Doug, in my signature line there's a link, and there you'll find pricing information.

Dimensions for the 1203 are 18" tall x 14" wide x 13.5" deep. The actual depth of the cabinet itself is 13", and then there's some grille pooch-outage. I may have written in some places that the depth is 14", but 13.5" is probably a more accurate claim (it's 1/2" shallower than the Thunderchild 112). Weight is 25 pounds. If we omit the midrange smoother switch, the weight goes down by 1.6 pounds, and the price drops a little too.

Driver info... the woofer is the stock 8-ohm Kappalite 3012LF, first used by greenboy in the fEARful 12/6, and the midrange is the Faital 3FE22. On paper the midrange comes up short as far as efficiency, but we gain back some energy by harvesting the backwave with that open-format mid-chamber. Power handling also looks like a mis-match, but I think it's okay for bass guitar (though not for PA), as I protect the driver well with the crossover, and then once again the open-format mid-chamber comes into play, facilitating cooling, particularly in comparison with a sealed midrange chamber.

The cabinet's net internal volume is about 1.2 cubic feet, and it's tuned to about 45 Hz. If you model this, you'll see that the cab is theoretically minus 3.3 dB at the 62 Hz first overtone of low-B. I think this is "adequate"... it's not a killer low-B cab, but arguably not bad considering size and weight. I have experimented with raising the tuning frequency, something easier said than done with the modular flared ports, and so far haven't been much impressed by the theoretical .5 dB gain at 62 Hz.

If you'd be looking for a bit more output, there is a Hathor 1533 in the pipeline, which will replace the original Hathor cab, the 1544, in a somewhat more compact format. The plan is for the 1533 to be available in low-E and low-F# capable 4-ohm versions, the latter of course being more than adequate for low-B. The low-E version will "handle" low-B from a fartout standpoint, but would probably need a bit of EQ to really "deliver" it.

 

[Doug Parent]

Thanks Duke !!!!!!

 

[Stranger Danger]

Hi Doug, in my signature line there's a link, and there you'll find pricing information.

Dimensions for the 1203 are 18" tall x 14" wide x 13.5" deep. The actual depth of the cabinet itself is 13", and then there's some grille pooch-outage. I may have written in some places that the depth is 14", but 13.5" is probably a more accurate claim (it's 1/2" shallower than the Thunderchild 112). Weight is 25 pounds. If we omit the midrange smoother switch, the weight goes down by 1.6 pounds, and the price drops a little too.

Driver info... the woofer is the stock 8-ohm Kappalite 3012LF, first used by greenboy in the fEARful 12/6, and the midrange is the Faital 3FE22. On paper the midrange comes up short as far as efficiency, but we gain back some energy by harvesting the backwave with that open-format mid-chamber. Power handling also looks like a mis-match, but I think it's okay for bass guitar (though not for PA), as I protect the driver well with the crossover, and then once again the open-format mid-chamber comes into play, facilitating cooling, particularly in comparison with a sealed midrange chamber.

The cabinet's net internal volume is about 1.2 cubic feet, and it's tuned to about 45 Hz. If you model this, you'll see that the cab is theoretically minus 3.3 dB at the 62 Hz first overtone of low-B. I think this is "adequate"... it's not a killer low-B cab, but arguably not bad considering size and weight. I have experimented with raising the tuning frequency, something easier said than done with the modular flared ports, and so far haven't been much impressed by the theoretical .5 dB gain at 62 Hz.

If you'd be looking for a bit more output, there is a Hathor 1533 in the pipeline, which will replace the original Hathor cab, the 1544, in a somewhat more compact format. The plan is for the 1533 to be available in low-E and low-F# capable 4-ohm versions, the latter of course being more than adequate for low-B. The low-E version will "handle" low-B from a fartout standpoint, but would probably need a bit of EQ to really "deliver" it.

Hi Duke,

The low E 4 ohm version will be rated for how many watts?

 

[g4string]

Hi Duke,

The low E 4 ohm version will be rated for how many watts?

I think you a bigger boxed 1533 would handle your Shuttle 9.1 just fine.

@ Duke.....arm-chair quarterback me for a moment.....just curious how (on paper) the proposed 1533 would stack up against a pair of 1233's. Also, how much of a reality is the proposed 1533? Will this cab see production?

 

[nostatic]

So another report from the front. I decided to push the boundaries a bit. Single H1203 with GK MB Fusion due to the extra gear I was hauling. Here's the setup - K8 for the keyboard on top of the H1203.

No FOH support. I have played this club a lot, and typically would use a single ML112. Last month I used the pair of the H1203 (first gig with them), last night I figured I'd go light. Zero issue. I could hear myself fine, and here is what it sounded like out in the audience:

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And no bass on this one, but included for grins. Banjo and keys (sometimes simultaneously - we love sustain pedals)

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Bottom line is the H1203 punches way above its weight. I own the pair now, but looks like I'll be able to use them as I did with the ML112s - usually just a single cab, add the second for louder gigs.

 

[steubig]

If you model this, you'll see that the cab is theoretically minus 3.3 dB at the 62 Hz first overtone of low-B. I think this is "adequate"... it's not a killer low-B cab, but arguably not bad considering size and weight.

in my limited home testing (see the sound files i did, they all start with a D on the B string), i found the B string quite useable. i felt that it didn't lose much in comparison to my TC112 cabs (4ohm). in the wild could be different.

 

[DukeLeJeune]

Hi Duke,
The low E 4 ohm version will be rated for how many watts?

The low E version will work with a 500 watt microhead. It will use the Faital 15PR400 woofer, but in a bit smaller box than usual. The woofer is rated at 400 watts AES and 800 watts "music program".

I think you a bigger boxed 1533 would handle your Shuttle 9.1 just fine.

The Hathor 1533 only has about 2.1 cubic feet net internal volume. I'm mostly working the compact end of the spectrum these days, for various reasons. I'm not sure that a single 4-ohm 15PR400 would be up to handling the full output of a Shuttle 9.1.

The low F# version should have no trouble handling a kilowatt, thermal or mechanical. But we trade off efficiency, weight, and money.

@ Duke.....arm-chair quarterback me for a moment.....just curious how (on paper) the proposed 1533 would stack up against a pair of 1233's. Also, how much of a reality is the proposed 1533? Will this cab see production?

A pair of 1233's will be definitely go louder than either version of the 1533.

The low-E version of the 1533 really doesn't have any technical hurdles, and I've already gotten an initial order, so it's definitely going into production. It will be more of a "smooth jazz" oriented cab, with less growly going on than the other Hathor cabs. And the only difference in the box for the low-F# version is the port length.

Why no optimized-for-low-B version? Well, I couldn't find a 4-ohm woofer that really spoke to me as a low-B candidate, particularly not in that compact box size. Yes the 15PR400 can deliver low-B if we give it a bigger box, but ime it's better suited for low-E.

 

[Stranger Danger]

The low E version will work with a 500 watt microhead. It will use the Faital 15PR400 woofer, but in a bit smaller box than usual. The woofer is rated at 400 watts AES and 800 watts "music program".



The Hathor 1533 only has about 2.1 cubic feet net internal volume. I'm mostly working the compact end of the spectrum these days, for various reasons. I'm not sure that a single 4-ohm 15PR400 would be up to handling the full output of a Shuttle 9.1.

The low F# version should have no trouble handling a kilowatt, thermal or mechanical. But we trade off efficiency, weight, and money.



A pair of 1233's will be definitely go louder than either version of the 1533.

The low-E version of the 1533 really doesn't have any technical hurdles, and I've already gotten an initial order, so it's definitely going into production. It will be more of a "smooth jazz" oriented cab, with less growly going on than the other Hathor cabs. And the only difference in the box for the low-F# version is the port length.

Why no optimized-for-low-B version? Well, I couldn't find a 4-ohm woofer that really spoke to me as a low-B candidate, particularly not in that compact box size. Yes the 15PR400 can deliver low-B if we give it a bigger box, but ime it's better suited for low-E.

I think a pair of 1203s is going to be the best route for me with the GB 9.0. At least that sounds about right. Now I've got to sell some stuff . . .

 

[steve_rolfeca]

Selling gear to get one of Duke's cabs is one of the easiest decisions you can make. Unless you're already using something pretty exotic, they are so much better than what they're replacing.

My TC112 AF v1 is one of the best audio purchases I've made in my entire life. I have chronic GAS, and I'm an old fart with side interests in recording, live sound and hi-fi, so that's really saying something.

 

[Mark Sacchetti]

Ran across this picture.

 

[g4string]

......My TC112 AF v1 is one of the best audio purchases I've made in my entire life. I have chronic GAS, and I'm an old fart with side interests in recording, live sound and hi-fi, so that's really saying something.

I sold my my v1 TC112 to get a v1 TC115. I really miss my TC112 bad!!! I like the extra volume the 115 gives me. However I miss the portability my 112 afforded me. I'm not selling my 115 anytime soon. However, I'm on the prowl for another 112. Just gotta save a few extra bucks and I be snagging another me thinks. I've been contemplating snagging a walkabout head and driving the pair of cabs (115 and 112) together at 2ohms with that head....keep using my TH500 to drive them individually at 4ohms. Although, I really would like to get another PUMA again. So much gear.....so little money.