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Baer Amplification Megathread!
- Thread starter KJung
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Bass guys are the worst about trying to convince other bass players to use what they use. By far.That's because they're bass guys...not those other kind of guys (you know who I mean)...
MM
- Aug 21, 2003
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I respectfully disagree.
Yep as has been said several times a certain player is going to sound like him or herself no matter what...
I'll tell you what...I had to do a fillin not to long ago where there where to older bag end 15s as part of the backline and I brought a LMII (which I use a lot) and the "tone" I was not the same as if I was using one of my own cabs (I expected this of course) believe I wish it was...LOL
That's because of many, many variables in the design of the speaker, the very least of which being the cone size.
GhettoBrassGuy
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- Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull, Lakland, Aguilar, JH Audio
I've received a few phone calls about this and it's clear that I need to work on the website so that this information is easier to find.
10 DAY RETURN POLICY
At Baer Amplification, we want to make sure that you are 100% satisfied with your new purchase. If for any reason you are not happy with your purchase, you may return the item within 10 days from the date you received the item for a full refund. You are only responsible for return shipping cost to Baer Amplification. Returned items must be in “as new” condition and shipped in the original packaging for a full refund. Damaged or incomplete items will subject to restocking fees, based upon the condition of the returned product. Refunds will be issued within 14 days from the time we receive the item.
WARRANTY TRANSFER POLICY
Your product's original factory warranty is fully transferable for the first ninety (90) days from the the date listed on the original sales receipt, provided that the original sales receipt is transferred to the new owner and the transfer of ownership is registered with Baer Amplification. Please download and complete a copy of the Transfer Of Ownership form and return it to Baer Amplification, along with a copy of the original sales receipt, or invoice. You must register the transfer of ownership with Baer Amplification for the warranty to be transferred to the new owner.
We are trying to make the process of buying gear you can't hear first as painless as possible. If you get the gear and it is apparent that the tone will not work for you, we will accept it back for a full refund, minus shipping back to us, within the first ten days of ownership.
I also realized that sometimes it takes a while to truly know if a piece of gear will work for you, or not. I know from experience that's it's hard to sell new gear a month or two down the road without taking a big hit on the price. Why buy used, when you can buy new for just a little more and get a warranty? With that in mind, we let the original customer transfer the warranty within the first 90 days. Offering a full warranty helps keep the resale value higher.
We don't have a dealer in Europe yet, but we are working on it. As soon as we can make that happen, we will get the word on on the website, Facebook page and here on TB.
Why do I click on these threads? They usually end up costing me money...especially when the builder is relatively local 
You could say that about any cabs different from yours. Speaker size is one of many many factors that are involved, and probably the least important one.
bongomania
Commercial User
That's how to tell when your crank caller is more interested in amp threads than lingerie catalogs.
Why do I click on these threads? They usually end up costing me money...especially when the builder is relatively local
Oh yes. If you got a hold of Roger, you could probably do a test drive.
poptart
Commercial User
We are getting closer Roger - hopefully I can get some stock soon, I am keen to try these bad boys out myself!!
Mark
As you try a lot of cabs, you start to realize that, while they all sound quite different, driver diameter is not really a primary driver of difference in tone. The Acme 10's sound like what most would think 18's would sound like. The Schroeder 15's sound like what many would think a 10" driver would sound like, etc. The Eden 112XLT compared to the Acme112 Fullrange is about as different as you could make two cabinets sound, even though they are both 12's.
If you put ten different 210 cabs in a room, and ten different 112's in the same room, and listened on a blind basis, I would be pretty sure that no one could identify the 10's from the 12's consistently beyond chance levels.
However, one can't say driver diameter makes no difference at all, since WITHIN specific cab lines, there does seem to be the expected difference (e.g., with the Berg 12's sounding bigger and wider than the Berg 10's). Of course, part of even that is 'the tail wagging the dog', since cab makers probably voice their different sized drivers to sound a bit like what the market would expect (i.e., a 410 being more tight and punchy than a 212, etc.). However, in general, it is probably not the best strategy to shop for only one speaker diameter size to get a certain tone.
alexclaber
Commercial User
Exactly Ken! I wonder if I never got this misconception in my head because I went from an '70s 15" in a tiny sealed cab to a '90s 12" in a larger ported cab to two Acme Low-B2s with 10" woofers? Based on those three cabs the smaller the woofer the bigger the bottom!
More thoughts on this here: Barefaced Bass - Why nominal diameter tells you nothing about tone
More thoughts on this here: Barefaced Bass - Why nominal diameter tells you nothing about tone
- Aug 21, 2003
- 11,589
- 18,607
- Disclosures
- A-Designs Mike Lull GK Tsunami Cables GHS Strings RMI Basswitch Nordstrand Pickups Darkglass
To be honest its Bergs that I'm biasing more of my perception of tone from (12s vs 10s) since most of my local Boston bass players friends who all have some version of something that Jim makes (including myself).
