I was wondering how you were getting along with the Linden. Glad to hear you're liking it. There's a lot of tone magic hidden in those 3 knobs and 2 switches. The more I mess with it, the more I like it.
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Barber Linden EQ • New small form factor
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I was wondering how you were getting along with the Linden. Glad to hear you're liking it. There's a lot of tone magic hidden in those 3 knobs and 2 switches. The more I mess with it, the more I like it.
I've just picked one up too and am blown away by the tones available. I picked it up just to see what the fuss was but its now a keeper!
I received one a couple of weeks ago, it immediately became an always on pedal, and bumped my hx stomp from preamp and eq duties, it just is super simple to use and sounds great. Both switches to the left is yummy and punchy.
The Linden is a great example of an always on pedal. I use mine with the HX Stomp and it's a powerful combo. My signal goes: Markbass Compressore > Linden > HX Stomp > amp/D.I. I like to run the comp. and EQ into one of the HX Stomp amp models (B15) that is set flat and use the Linden as my main EQ. Then I add an IR and a HPF at the end of the Stomp chain and it comes together all thick and lovely.
Low Down,
What is the flat setting for the stomp b15? I can't remember where I saw somewhere where all the flat settings for the stomp amps were posted.. Lately I've been digging the svt sim, but I do like the b15 sim, not into the cabs though.
What is the flat setting for the stomp b15? I can't remember where I saw somewhere where all the flat settings for the stomp amps were posted.. Lately I've been digging the svt sim, but I do like the b15 sim, not into the cabs though.
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Lot's of cool sounds there. I attached the settings to save you some time though. I like some of the cabs pretty well, but there are other IR's that sound even better IMO.
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Thanks Low Down Brown for the stomp balanced settings, definitely helped me get the linden/stomp combo working nicely, getting just the right amount of grit from the stomp amp models can be tricky, really have to run the gain pretty low (for me and my needs). The Linden out front is pretty key though, and I can take just the Linden in a pinch and be happy with any backline or borrowed amp if need be, from my recent experiences.
Well, I’ve got a few other things in between....but they’re both always on in my chain, and I love ‘em!
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I have been using exactly this for a number of recording sessions over the last year - sounds fantastic. I like to add a very light always-on drive (Blackstone Mosfet and ZVEX Basstortion are my favourites in this role) to give what is essentially a full preamp in modular pedal form. Some compression can help give some more amp-y feel (depending on the drive pedal used) too.
This setup has comfortably won out in a few blind shootouts against a Noble. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Pairing it with a tube boost/preamp pedal (either in place of, or in addition to light OD) is a total win as well - look at the Night Owl Edison or Audio Kitchen The Small Trees for a fantastic setup that competes with and outshines some of the very expensive tube preamps out there (IMHO).
I’m hoping Linden into La-1a will do the same!
And I have a SexDrive on the way for a "pushed" toooooobe tone!
Anyone here have clips of the linden barber??
All I can find are not so good YouTube vids with the previous version.
Thank you for your input
All I can find are not so good YouTube vids with the previous version.
Thank you for your input
Not a demo, but the bass is through a small form Linden and then DI'd through a Quilter TB202 set pretty flat in frfr mode.
Tonight I tried chaining a couple of pedals up to test out the sound in a recording setting: Broughton HPF --> Linden EQ --> Sushi Box Particle Accelerator pre --> Darkglass Vintage Ultra (for DI use) --> Black Lion B173 preamp.
I was disconcerted, though, to hear a lot of noise that wasn't audible when testing these same pedals through my amp. Same power connections, a daisy chain from a One Spot on a high-quality noise filtering power strip (wherein if I record through JUST the Vintage Ultra, I have an impressively low noise floor). Tried isolating the Linden, tried isolating both it and the Particle Accelerator. Tried bypassing the Vintage Ultra. The noise is almost white and isn't the usual signal interference one might get with something like a stepped-sine-wave current out of a cheap battery backup. I've eliminated all those problem sources over time.
When everything's connected, if I have the Particle Accelerator and Linden EQ enabled, the noise is present but not awful. If I disable the Particle Accelerator, though, the noise gets significantly more visible in the DAW, albeit not really louder (weird, because that only happens if the Linden is in the chain, and only if it's enabled). And the really audible stuff is also there even when both pedals are disabled.
I tried putting the HPF after both, in between, and out of the chain. Any difference is negligible.
The Particle Accelerator isn't the quietest pedal in the world, but I've noticed the Linden is really a noisy thing, even completely by itself. A lot of it is highs and some evidently supersonic, but that doesn't mean it's not problematic.
Are Linden EQ pedals really noise-prone? I haven't seen reports of such issues.
Anyone recorded with one and had and/or solved problems of this sort?
I guess I could trade the Broughton HPF for a Broughton HPF/LPF to help calm things some, but I'll think about that if it turns out the Linden's noise is part of its design. I really don't wanna kick it off the board.
I was disconcerted, though, to hear a lot of noise that wasn't audible when testing these same pedals through my amp. Same power connections, a daisy chain from a One Spot on a high-quality noise filtering power strip (wherein if I record through JUST the Vintage Ultra, I have an impressively low noise floor). Tried isolating the Linden, tried isolating both it and the Particle Accelerator. Tried bypassing the Vintage Ultra. The noise is almost white and isn't the usual signal interference one might get with something like a stepped-sine-wave current out of a cheap battery backup. I've eliminated all those problem sources over time.
When everything's connected, if I have the Particle Accelerator and Linden EQ enabled, the noise is present but not awful. If I disable the Particle Accelerator, though, the noise gets significantly more visible in the DAW, albeit not really louder (weird, because that only happens if the Linden is in the chain, and only if it's enabled). And the really audible stuff is also there even when both pedals are disabled.
I tried putting the HPF after both, in between, and out of the chain. Any difference is negligible.
The Particle Accelerator isn't the quietest pedal in the world, but I've noticed the Linden is really a noisy thing, even completely by itself. A lot of it is highs and some evidently supersonic, but that doesn't mean it's not problematic.
Are Linden EQ pedals really noise-prone? I haven't seen reports of such issues.
Anyone recorded with one and had and/or solved problems of this sort?
I guess I could trade the Broughton HPF for a Broughton HPF/LPF to help calm things some, but I'll think about that if it turns out the Linden's noise is part of its design. I really don't wanna kick it off the board.
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I think the way you are powering your pedals is the problem. Linden EQ has an internal charge pump that boosts the internal voltage to 25V. When you are daisy chaining pedals, charge pumps can cause noise. Not necessarily the Lindens fault, could be another pedal in the chain with bad power filtering. I prefer isolated power to pedals with charge pumps.
@Real Soon I checked out the Particle Accelerator, it steps up the voltage to 200V internally! It also requires 300mA. So you have at least two pedals with charge pumps chained, which is definitely not recommended, especially not as powerful as the one used in the Particle Accelerator. Basically you should only daisy chain pedals that draw about the same amount of mA. Your setup also draws a lot of mA from a One Spot adapter, the Darkglass Vintage Ultra requires an additional 110mA. You definitely need a proper isolated power supply to get good results with this setup. There is no wonder you're having noise problems. Seriously, don't spend more money on pedals until you have powering sorted.
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You might not've seen later in that paragraph where I did end up isolating pedals. I should've specified further that I've got a couple of One Spots and some other audio-grade adapters... and also noticed noise when using the Linden alone, bypassing the Darkglass and going into the B173 via hi-z input. I'll test further to reconfirm that, though.
I'm not arguing against best practices overall, mind you, just trying to clarify that I've been getting less than ideal results while also attempting to be scientific about troubleshooting. I'll end up with a proper unit by the end, but hopefully didn't damage anything in the meantime.
