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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 19)

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oh yeah the grooves were deep..
He had two bass players. Vail was on the gig playing some weird fender and the other guy that sat down on a chair and played a stingray 5 on a few songs at soundcheck
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I didnt get to talk with the drummer so i dont know if it is the guy that you know.. but there was serious stuff going down in the rhythm section.. and i mean serious..!! YOu are lucky to paly with a drummer like that.. man.... it can be so easy with someone that knows how to groove...

With my rig and basses. i think i have reached s point of just being real happy....
Ive been really watching alot of Steve Vai and his mental technique lately... He is in another place musically...

KJung said:
I played about a thousand gigs (literally.... years of 6 night a week gigs) with Keb's drummer (until recently) Lavelle Bell. Amazing groove player.

The most recent Keb CD (The Reflection.... thanks to TBer Ric Vice for turning me onto this one, I kind of lost track of what Keb was doing lately) is simply stunning, with Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten, Ready Freddie Washington, Kevin McCormick, Andrew Gouche', Vail Johnson, etc., etc. It is probably the best collection of great bassists playing great grooves on one CD that I've ever heard. Amazing sections on those cuts:bassist:

Nice picks! You do some amazingly cool gigs! I bet those basses and that rig sounds amazing!
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svtb15 said:
oh yeah the grooves were deep..
He had two bass players. Vail was on the gig playing some weird fender and the other guy that sat down on a chair and played a stingray 5 on a few songs at soundcheck
..

I didnt get to talk with the drummer so i dont know if it is the guy that you know.. but there was serious stuff going down in the rhythm section.. and i mean serious..!! YOu are lucky to paly with a drummer like that.. man.... it can be so easy with someone that knows how to groove...

With my rig and basses. i think i have reached s point of just being real happy....
Ive been really watching alot of Steve Vai and his mental technique lately... He is in another place musically...
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Steve is an interesting player. I typically hate that kind of 'guitar god' sort of thing (the Satriani type stuff), but Vai makes that style of 'chops' playing very musical and meaningful. Quite a player. A guitar buddy of mine was telling me about some sort of classical type recording Vai recently put out, and it is supposed to be quite good.

Lavelle is no longer with Keb. Not sure what happened there. Been quite a while since I talked with him. He's big time now!
 
#843
Yeah.... Vai comes from my LI neighborhood... He has a metaphysical connection... its more than just chops... I dont listen to bass players for inspiration. i listen to french horn players Gits, drummers etc..
One of my FAV Vai videos simply because it has nothing to do with chops or playing, instead it is all encompassing to all things we do in life..

 
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svtb15 said:
Yeah.... Vai comes from my LI neighborhood... He has a metaphysical connection... its more than just chops... I dont listen to bass players for inspiration. i listen to french horn players Gits, drummers etc..
One of my FAV Vai videos simply because it has nothing to do with chops or playing, instead it is all encompassing to all things we do in life..

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+1

Visualization and focus on inner self are absolutely key. Victor Wooten's "Music Lesson" kinda' comes from this angle, but is even further off the beaten path regarding perspective and out of the box thinking. It's long, but very interesting.

Interesting that you listen to french horns. I also consider horns (tho in my case, it's more saxes) to be a fantastic source of ideas mainly because unlike bassists, guitar players, keyboardists, and drummers, they're forced to write lines that "breathe" due to the requirements of the instrument. It forces them to write more "human" lines, much more like a vocalist, which is (IMHO) a very cool thing.

Also, to temper this comment, I'm not really much of a soloist, so this is more in the context of bass lines and phrasing that compliment the music and support the melody while working hard to fortify the all-important groove. "Space" is SO important!!

Anyway, FWIW.
 
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On the Steve Vai topic: there's a song "Under it all" that is super deep and so moved me I researched it a few years ago. It has a fascinating story to it, he nearly didn't finish it as it was emotionally wrecking him, but IIRC his friends forced him to finish it. Musically it reminds me of the Holdsworth Road Games/Metal Fatigue era, very dense harmony with vox and heavy lyrics. I wish there was more like it/a market for it. Here's a link:
 
#846
Guitar parts that you posted reminds me a bit of old King Crimson.....very cool
Anyway.. Im gonna go put a few hours in on my Alleva and stretch since i have a few days off...




MixBass said:
On the Steve Vai topic: there's a song "Under it all" that is super deep and so moved me I researched it a few years ago. It has a fascinating story to it, he nearly didn't finish it as it was emotionally wrecking him, but IIRC his friends forced him to finish it. Musically it reminds me of the Holdsworth Road Games/Metal Fatigue era, very dense harmony with vox and heavy lyrics. I wish there was more like it/a market for it. Here's a link:
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#847
I just picked Miko's KPB4. It is a KILLER bass but the neck is a bit wide for me (C width). I might get over it because it plays and sounds so nice - but I don't suppose someone has a KPB4 with an A or B neck they may want to swap?
 
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RS said:
I just picked Miko's KPB4. It is a KILLER bass but the neck is a bit wide for me (C width). I might get over it because it plays and sounds so nice - but I don't suppose someone has a KPB4 with an A or B neck they may want to swap?
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Just a thought, but I would give it some time. Those 'fat neck' P's are the real deal, and I've found they make me play a bit differently, and, for lack of a better term, more 'P appropriate'. I can't do some of the things on my 5 string P that I can do on my A-C LM5, but that turns out to be a good thing in its own way.

Anyway, give it a couple of gigs before making a possible change. IMO and IME there!
 
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KJung said:
Just a thought, but I would give it some time. Those 'fat neck' P's are the real deal, and I've found they make me play a bit differently, and, for lack of a better term, more 'P appropriate'. I can't do some of the things on my 5 string P that I can do on my A-C LM5, but that turns out to be a good thing in its own way.

Anyway, give it a couple of gigs before making a possible change. IMO and IME there!
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Thanks Ken. I hear what you are saying. I'm sure I'll have some time to play it more before I'd get any swap offer.
 
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KJung said:
Just a thought, but I would give it some time. Those 'fat neck' P's are the real deal, and I've found they make me play a bit differently, and, for lack of a better term, more 'P appropriate'. I can't do some of the things on my 5 string P that I can do on my A-C LM5, but that turns out to be a good thing in its own way.

Anyway, give it a couple of gigs before making a possible change. IMO and IME there!
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+1!!!
 
#852
Should be coming home soon!

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