Why are you sharing with the bartender, are they not being paid?
Just sharing because they have a lot to do with making it a great night.
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Why are you sharing with the bartender, are they not being paid?
We were trying to make money but also spread the positive vibe.No big artist here. Just a weekend warrior playing other peoples songs for fun and to make a couple extra bucks to fund my GAS.
It's open to debate whether the band should even tip, since we are working there as well. I just figure it helps to curry favor with the wait staff since in this shady system their income is imputed with a certain percentage of tips. So they lose money if you don't.![]()
I never said I tip just for being there... :0lPlease read my post again. We always tip generously for food and drink. I was responding to DJ Bebob who has tipped just for being there which I've never heard of before and I was curious of the rationale behind it.
We were trying to make money but also spread the positive vibe. It must have been an unusual thing for them as well. That committed on it. The return was more that 10 fold to us than any gift we gave to them. Plus just the fellow felling alone. Other acts in our scene never understood why we were so loved. We were average. I contribute it to the vibe.
It wasn't always money.
Yep it did, it was such a little thing to do.If that helped your band than more power to you brother.![]()
A band exactly like yours, but without you in it.![]()
Luckily there are no 3 chord blues songs, and sub-par musicians are prevented from playing jazz by court order.Sub-par "musicians" that don't care if they ever get better on their chosen instrument because they have no real plans of being anything but a three chord, three minute song good times party band. To them, jazz and blues is "corny".
If you can’t draw enough people to validate your worth, then maybe YOU should stay in the basement.I attended a neighborhood Superbowl party last night. The host's father was visiting NC from Upstate New York. He's a private party DJ. He used to do clubs as well. He's older than me..... maybe in his 60s if I had to guess. He started DJing on 1978 and has been doing it steady ever since.
(By the way, he did his first job entirely on a phone last week. He literally had Spotify and Amazon Prime apps going on his phone and took requests as well as having a "set list". The times, they are uh changin'.)
Get this......
He told me that it's "getting harder and harder to find work". Wanna know why?
He said that "Little bands are springing up everywhere all over the country. Not only are people getting tired of DJs. But these little garage bands will play for LESS MONEY THAN I CAN DO IT FOR."
You read that last part correctly.
We have had this discussion here before. Yes, it's been beat to death. But coming from a DJ who has been in the biz for decades it really hit home for me.
Two things struck me.
1) The whole time we live musicians are pissing and moaning about not getting work because of DJs, they're out there pissing and moaning about not getting work because of "hack bands" (his words).
2) But I'll say it again. If you are playing GIGS with a full band for a few hundred bucks, you are actually HURTING the market for the rest of us.
Do us all a favor and just jam in the garage if you can't demand more than a DJ with nothing but two speakers on a stick and some fancy lights gets.
If we all told club owners we would rather stay home than play for $300, the price WOULD go up. Sure, we would lose some to DJs. But not as many as you think.
Just my two cents.
Also, jazz groups tend to have quality players. Not the 3 chord warrior variety!Makes me happy i play jazz. For alot of the gigs i get, a DJ would never be on the table. I do a weekly jazz brunch, 11-2. A DJ brunch? Just no.
Point is, there are still gigs out there where a DJ would just not be appropriate. Think small coffee shops/cafes, or bars with a culture where a DJ wouldn't fly. There is actually a coffee shop here that has someone spin records a single night of the week, but the rest of the week are small groups playing.
Also, jazz groups tend to have quality players. Not the 3 chord warrior variety!
Since this thread still has some embers, I'll drop this video.@TBird1958 posted it on the wardrobe thread,
but it bears repeating as it provides such a rousing and inspiring
example of a band delivering on all levels.
Still not sure how to define "hack" but one way to sell-rate one's band
would be to call this performance a perfect "10" and, in a fearless
self-inventory, start scaling downward.
Been there, done that - except it was hockey. We delayed our start until after the game ended.
Since this thread still has some embers, I'll drop this video.
@TBird1958 posted it on the wardrobe thread,
but it bears repeating as it provides such a rousing and inspiring
example of a band delivering on all levels.
Still not sure how to define "hack" but one way to rate one's own band
would be to deem this performance a perfect "10" and, in a fearless
self-inventory, start scaling downward.
Since this thread still has some embers, I'll drop this video.
@TBird1958 posted it on the wardrobe thread,
but it bears repeating as it provides such a rousing and inspiring
example of a band delivering on all levels.
Still not sure how to define "hack" but one way to rate one's own band
would be to deem this performance a perfect "10" and, in a fearless
self-inventory, start scaling downward.
Since this thread still has some embers, I'll drop this video.
@TBird1958 posted it on the wardrobe thread,
but it bears repeating as it provides such a rousing and inspiring
example of a band delivering on all levels.
Still not sure how to define "hack" but one way to rate one's own band
would be to deem this performance a perfect "10" and, in a fearless
self-inventory, start scaling downward.
Since this thread still has some embers, I'll drop this video.
@TBird1958 posted it on the wardrobe thread,
but it bears repeating as it provides such a rousing and inspiring
example of a band delivering on all levels.
Still not sure how to define "hack" but one way to rate one's own band
would be to deem this performance a perfect "10" and, in a fearless
self-inventory, start scaling downward.