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Just put on a new set of Payson True Flats. Wow, wow. I LOVE the feel of these.
Just put on a new set of Payson True Flats. Wow, wow. I LOVE the feel of these.
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Dingwall Owners Club
- Thread starter FroggyOne2
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Now, see, that's interesting you say that, because I just got a surprise Facebook message from my amazing Australian Dingwall dealer (cheers George @ Bass Gear Direct), and I have something shiny waiting for me in Sydney...(see attached)
It won't start to make its journey to me until next week, but I'm already excited.
Also, here's another money shot for those who are so inclined:
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Ahhh goddamn, you're killing me here...
I played Warwicks for years (an early 90's Streamer Stage 2 specifically, with the super thin neck), so a bubinga/wenge combo would feel like I'm coming home.
Hearing this about the 6-string Combustion neck actually makes me feel much better. It's been my biggest concern while waiting for mine to arrive that the neck would be too chunky and uncomfortable to play.
I'm still a little unsure about whether the Combustion 3X will be the right bass for me vs an NG-3. Will see how I go once I have the 3X in my hands.
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I have not yet played the 3x Combustion 6-string but will soon. Of course the neck is identical so no problem there. The NG3 versus C3 is an interesting thing. I like both for different reasons. From one point of view these two basses are now so similar, since we no longer have the two pickup placement differential. The pre choice IMO is not as critical, for a person can always have a tech change to a different pre. I do like the sweetened highs on the C3 and feel I can always use a pedal if I want more mid/low mid control. On the other hand, the DG pre NG3 has hit such a sweet spot in bass EQ for many players and I think will always remain "king" for the majority. At the moment, I am leaning slightly towards the C3 as my favorite and don't know if I wouldn't rather just have a FDV upgraded passive setup. I guess the bottom line is that there are no bad choices, for I am sure the majority of players can utilize amp EQ to get a good sound no matter which pre or passive setup.
And to re-assure you about playability - I am so stoked on the 6-string idea after playing one of these. And I have been a die-hard 4-string guy. Yes, there is a bit of added weight, but not drastic. But of course everyone has to decide about the playability question for themselves, but I believe most will find it comfortable. For me, I would have to relearn muscle-memory if I went this route, but do not feel daunted by the idea. It will be interesting to see how others feel about these 6's and I am looking forward to what you and others think of your C3 when you get it.
Hopefully that's my C6 you'll be playing! I'm so stoked to finally have a 6 with a perfect B and C string, without the crazy heavy weight.
Having played and enjoyed both pres I am curious how the body wood is going to play into the differences between the 2.
If I have it right the C3 is now exclusively ash and the NG3 alder.
Having played both side by side before I have felt the significant weight difference possible between the 2 and wonder if throwing a DGTC in a heavier C3 might offer up yet another alternative to tones from a production Dingwall if the weight does add any sustain or punch as is possible. Just morning thoughts thoughts is all.
That said,
Good morning fellows
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I posted before and said, "these C3/NG3 6's are scarcer than hen's teeth". I think only a small shipment has made it in to Dingwall. But more are incoming so hopefully we will have yours soon. I have received no C3's as of yet, only NG3's.
I couldn't believe how well that C is integrated in terms of ergonomics; I have always wanted to string a 5-string EADGC but never got around to it. In part this was simply my ignorance of 6's in general, but the ones I have played before simply did not feel nor sound right to me. Since I play a lot by ear I never pursued them. Now with a Low B (that I can hear) to a well integrated High C - wow. I always have liked to play high notes in runs and this adds that ability without having to horizontally move so much; I can see where it would, with practice, be faster.
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You bring up an interesting point. And IMO it is one reason I do like the C3 so much. I have always liked ash over alder as I have felt it adds sustain and note "thickness" due to wood density. Of course this is an arguable subjective point. So possibly adding the DG pre would bring about another dimension of sound.
As far as weight, I weighed the C3 5-string we have right now, and it is within the average weight of the NG3 5-string. I have noticed the NG3s are fairly consistent with weight only varying .2 (generally) lbs on my shipping scales; I make no claims of absolute accuracy.
It the most recent batch I saw at L and M (there were 4) IIRC it was 2 and 2 and the (1 in particular) bustin had significant weight over the NGs... I don't mean to say every Combustion is gonna be heavier then a nolly but ash can tend to weigh on the heavier side and Im sure depending on the specific body of a specific combustion Id say they do have the possibility of weighing a couple pounds more.
Ive also had really light weight ash bodied insruments as well.. IIRC the Buckeye Z I used to own was just over 8 lbs. Compared to the more typical 10ish.
Anyways, just a varying factor I was thinking as like you said the NGs are more consistent I'd wager also.
I am curious to see how heavy the first C3 6 I get my hands on is.
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I don't have the data points, but I would say your analysis is correct and that the ash in general is heavier but does vary more than the alder. I was actually surprised when I weighed this C3 5-string as I thought it would be different. I dont think I have weighed others as I usually don't unless someone asks specifically. The last ABHS we received was also lighter than previous ones as I think Dingwall got in some lower density wood for it. Regardless, I do like ash. And I too am interested in how the new C3 6s weigh in.
I have some Osage Orange that I surely WOOD like to have a neck made from. That stuff is about as dense as it gets. A complete bass made from it would be heavy indeed, but would have incredible sustain - I think.
Nice looking stuff
I like ash too. Of course I like Walnut,alder,mohagany,bubinga,ebomy,wenge,zirocote, maple as well!!! lol
Is the chest made of Osage Orange? Before the advent of woven-wire fence, Osage Orange trees were planted near to each other and the branches woven together as they grew. Impenetrable barrier!!!
Neat! It is a interweb photo I found and apparently it is
I think the point alluded-to is that an owner will be embarking on a beautiful coffee-table bass.
(Kidding)
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Yes. It is very difficult to cut due to its density. I have already this winter burned for firewood the equivalent of at least 100 bass necks.
YIKES! I had thought about asking Sheldon if I could send him some for a bass but the cost would be prohibitive.
