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#30,701
Wyvern said:
I have a combustion, love the tones I get out of it, I think what you are looking for is a neck pup. I saw on Reverb someone's got a custom NG2 to combustion pick cover, that will probably give you the tone you are looking for.
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@fretlessman71 could just move the middle pickup to the neck position and try that. The route is there.
 
#30,702
Wyvern said:
I have a combustion, love the tones I get out of it, I think what you are looking for is a neck pup. I saw on Reverb someone's got a custom NG2 to combustion pick cover, that will probably give you the tone you are looking for.
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Between this post and @NaH 's post, I understand what you are saying, and YOU MAY BE RIGHT. The NG2 is more MusicMan; I guess I'm wishing for a little more Jazz/P Bass in the tone. Good call! Will search Reverb.
 
#30,705
fretlessman71 said:
Me too. Message sent anyway ; sounds like I could have Dingwall simply make one and send it to me too.
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Dingwall won't make one (edit: this may be not correct, I mis-read the original inquiry)
Plus, just move the pickups first and play without a pickguard. Make sure it gets you what you want before spending money on it.
 
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#30,706
Selta said:
Dingwall won't make one (edit: this may be not correct, I mis-read the original inquiry)
Plus, just move the pickups first and play without a pickguard. Make sure it gets you what you want before spending money on it.
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Listing says Dingwall custom made it for the guy.

Then again, you could get the upgrade and have 3 pups! I'm waiting on mine.

It will still sound thin, it's just the nature of the beast, you could try sourcing some full nickel, tape wound or ground wound to bring back some warmth.
 
#30,712
fretlessman71 said:
I guess I'm not being clear. Yes, with the tone controls flat, active and passive sound identical.

I experience the same thing with my Warwick, and really all of my other active basses with a switch.

I'm comparing the tone of the Dingwall - flat - to my other basses, and noticing that there's a lack of bottom end by comparison. Since these basses are often used in metal, is the thinner tonal character something that is desirable for metal? Maybe because of the effects used? I'm just trying to learn more about the design of the instrument and why it sounds the way it does.

BTW - I have NEVER heard a low B sound this good before.....
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I see now, yeah it's apples to oranges. Different strings, woods, pickups (including pickup position), right hand position etc. are all gonna have an effect on how something sounds.
In short, all basses sound different, some more trebly, some more bassy, some more mid focused, if you're getting the sounds you're looking for by turning a few knobs then you're golden.

I do sort of see where you're coming from with them sounding a little less bassy when flat, I wouldn't call it thin though. I find the AB's and Combsution series with the FD3s leans more toward a modern sound with a lot of clarity, that can sound brighter than most other basses.
Keep in mind they also react very differently to where you play, if I play over the pickups closer to the bridge it's more trebly, nearer the neck (I often play right over the end of the neck) a lot more rounded and full sounding.

These basses aren't 'designed for metal' but they certainly have been taken up by a lot of metal players I suspect due to the downtuneability (yep, a word I just made up) and clear modern sound which probably helps a bit in dense mixes and distorted tones.
 
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#30,713
johnsonabq said:
In my experience, this hold true for the Glockenklang (and probably the EMG too), but the Tone Capsule has a lot more inherent personality, so switching to all passive will affect the tone even with everything set flat. IMHO
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My experience is you are correct but it’s slight. The DGTC adds it’s flavour even at flat may it be ever so slightly though.

fretlessman71 said:
It's simply a comparison to my other basses. Maybe my sample size isn't big enough, or I've been enamored by basses with particularly thick bottom end. Who knows? I got the bass used; maybe it needs new batteries?.... Easy thing to try for sure.

OR maybe I need to sell my NG2 and get a Combustion. :)
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I think it’s possible the longer scale makes the lower frequencies sound less squished together giving it a less “bassy” interpretation. I’ve even experienced on my SJ more “heft” in the
Lows compared to a long scale. Maybe it’s just a more guttural punch

The super series have their own pros in comparison to the long scale basses. I love them both.

Different tools for different jobs but as discussed the pre amps on board or otherwise can help accommodate desired tastes.
 
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ThisYouCanTrust said:
Interesting.
I was never a fan of onboard preamps because, well you can have outboard ones, easier to change, no battery in the instrument, etc.
Do you think I could get closer to the DGTC sound with a DG pedal ?
I'm afraid it's not just the EQ points .. if those are even similar, I didn't check honestly.
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My old Super J sounded more aggressive than my Afterburner. And I played my Super through a darkglass vintage ultra but can't get the same sound with the Afterburner. My Afterburner is old however so maybie it is wrong to compare to your bass.
Also the Super J had super fatties in it, so no wonder they don't sound the same, also different woods.
 
#30,715
fretlessman71 said:
I guess I'm not being clear. Yes, with the tone controls flat, active and passive sound identical.

I experience the same thing with my Warwick, and really all of my other active basses with a switch.

I'm comparing the tone of the Dingwall - flat - to my other basses, and noticing that there's a lack of bottom end by comparison. Since these basses are often used in metal, is the thinner tonal character something that is desirable for metal? Maybe because of the effects used? I'm just trying to learn more about the design of the instrument and why it sounds the way it does.

BTW - I have NEVER heard a low B sound this good before.....
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I feel exactly the opposite - if anything, my Dingwall has almost too much low end, I usually have to cut bass when recording. Incredible fundamentals. My bass is all passive, however, and I prefer passive setups.

Too much fundamental can be a bad thing in a mix, though, depending on the sound you are going for. OTOH, it's usually easier to subtract something that is already there, than the opposite (trying to add something with an active EQ).
 
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