• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Dingwall Owners Club

Yo! Anyone here use Scott's Bass Lessons? Now that I'm retired I have time to work on my playing. My real question is, will these courses work for someone who can't read music or tablature? Just chord charts.
Thanks!


Yes. You’ll figure it out. The course are meant to start from the most entry level player to the most advanced. I haven’t done it myself other then buying a masterclass but if o had the time I’d defeinitely invest into it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: johnsonabq
Yo! Anyone here use Scott's Bass Lessons? Now that I'm retired I have time to work on my playing. My real question is, will these courses work for someone who can't read music or tablature? Just chord charts.
Thanks!

I’ve been an SBL member for a few years now and would recommend it for anyone, regardless of skill level. I don’t read music yet. There’s honestly something for everyone - so much content from actual lessons/courses to seminars and interviews. Plus a very supportive forum.

Now, back on topic, I’ve just bought my third Super P. This time a 4 stringer:

F2D9532C-4B39-4451-BF50-52F6F50A92A8.jpeg
 
Ok, in today's episode of "What, exactly, is going on here?"...

So, Saturday night was just a weird night. We were playing at an out of town place we've played several times. The joint has super dirty electrical systems, so I'm used to my rig not being at its optimum and I was expecting some extraneous noise, because that's what always happens when we play there. Get setup, turn everything on, there's the buzz. I'm playing thru a relatively new GK Legacy 800 with all the grounding intact.

So, what does this have to do with Dingwall? Well, that's where the weird part comes in. So I plug in my 6er to soundcheck, and there's almost no output, but when I swap to passive mode, there's all my output. I'm thinking dead batteries, so I swap batteries, same issue. Negligible output in active, slammin' output in passive. My 5er, my NG, and my FBass were all normal. Get through the night, wondering if there's a problem with my bass, my amp, or both.

Get home from work last night, settle into my studio to try to diagnose the problem, plugged my 6er into my little board, everything was as normal and loud as it should've been! Active & passive both sounded great. Grabbed my GK head and plugged it into the cab, and it was just fine. I even put the old batteries back in, and it was still fine...

Can dirty electricity cause my bass to not work in active mode? I'm trying to make a connection, but that makes no sense to me...

I'ma post this in the GK thread to see if they can help.
 
Ok, in today's episode of "What, exactly, is going on here?"...

So, Saturday night was just a weird night. We were playing at an out of town place we've played several times. The joint has super dirty electrical systems, so I'm used to my rig not being at its optimum and I was expecting some extraneous noise, because that's what always happens when we play there. Get setup, turn everything on, there's the buzz. I'm playing thru a relatively new GK Legacy 800 with all the grounding intact.

So, what does this have to do with Dingwall? Well, that's where the weird part comes in. So I plug in my 6er to soundcheck, and there's almost no output, but when I swap to passive mode, there's all my output. I'm thinking dead batteries, so I swap batteries, same issue. Negligible output in active, slammin' output in passive. My 5er, my NG, and my FBass were all normal. Get through the night, wondering if there's a problem with my bass, my amp, or both.

Get home from work last night, settle into my studio to try to diagnose the problem, plugged my 6er into my little board, everything was as normal and loud as it should've been! Active & passive both sounded great. Grabbed my GK head and plugged it into the cab, and it was just fine. I even put the old batteries back in, and it was still fine...

Can dirty electricity cause my bass to not work in active mode? I'm trying to make a connection, but that makes no sense to me...

I'ma post this in the GK thread to see if they can help.

Wow, that is certainly weird behaviour. MSECE here, and I cannot see a viable way that dirty power would affect the bass itself (if anyone sees a different connection I'd be happy to know). It *might* be a floating ground that connects the ground of the bass with the ground of the amp, but that is a stretch. I'll have a think on this, but likely not bass.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pbass6811
Ok, in today's episode of "What, exactly, is going on here?"...

So, Saturday night was just a weird night. We were playing at an out of town place we've played several times. The joint has super dirty electrical systems, so I'm used to my rig not being at its optimum and I was expecting some extraneous noise, because that's what always happens when we play there. Get setup, turn everything on, there's the buzz. I'm playing thru a relatively new GK Legacy 800 with all the grounding intact.

So, what does this have to do with Dingwall? Well, that's where the weird part comes in. So I plug in my 6er to soundcheck, and there's almost no output, but when I swap to passive mode, there's all my output. I'm thinking dead batteries, so I swap batteries, same issue. Negligible output in active, slammin' output in passive. My 5er, my NG, and my FBass were all normal. Get through the night, wondering if there's a problem with my bass, my amp, or both.

Get home from work last night, settle into my studio to try to diagnose the problem, plugged my 6er into my little board, everything was as normal and loud as it should've been! Active & passive both sounded great. Grabbed my GK head and plugged it into the cab, and it was just fine. I even put the old batteries back in, and it was still fine...

Can dirty electricity cause my bass to not work in active mode? I'm trying to make a connection, but that makes no sense to me...

I'ma post this in the GK thread to see if they can help.

any chance it’s pedal related?

the hot gain of the pre overloading a circuit in a fancy pedal.

was your signal chain the same at the gig vs at home?
 
  • Like
Reactions: pbass6811
Yo! Anyone here use Scott's Bass Lessons? Now that I'm retired I have time to work on my playing. My real question is, will these courses work for someone who can't read music or tablature? Just chord charts.
Thanks!
I don't like the site layout and specifically I don't like the non stop talking in his videos. I don't want to sit in front of my computer with my bass on my lap listening for twenty minutes and playing for five. Drives me crazy. He has good info no doubt..but c'mon, there are many great online courses that allow more play time less talking. Jon Leibman 'For Bassplayers Only'... waaaay better IMO.
I want to hear a riff ..see it on TAB, practice slowly..then at full tempo and repeat. FBPO is the way to go.
 
Wow, that is certainly weird behaviour. MSECE here, and I cannot see a viable way that dirty power would affect the bass itself (if anyone sees a different connection I'd be happy to know). It *might* be a floating ground that connects the ground of the bass with the ground of the amp, but that is a stretch. I'll have a think on this, but likely not bass.

I was baffled, but I do feel better knowing that I'm on the same page as someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I'm almost half tempted to drive up there on a day off and see if I can recreate the issue, but seeing as how it's about 75 miles from my house and we'll be there again in a few months, I'll just stew about it...


any chance it’s pedal related?

the hot gain of the pre overloading a circuit in a fancy pedal.

was your signal chain the same at the gig vs at home?

I don't think so. When the buzzing started, I actually unplugged from the board, and went cord straight into the amp. I took one of the cords and went straight from my amp's tuner out into the tuner on my board(no return), so that shouldn't have been an issue. One thing I didn't mention previously, is that it got better as the night went on. By the time we got to the 2nd set, I was able to reroute everything back thru my board. It still buzzed, and the volume disparity was still there, but it was usable. The amp wasn't cold, I don't leave it out in the garage, but it was like everything had to warm up. I've had the same pedals on my board for a little while. It's the exact same setup I ran the week prior with no issues. My test last night did not involve my board, so I do need to try that to rule some things out before Friday night...
 
Yo! Anyone here use Scott's Bass Lessons? Now that I'm retired I have time to work on my playing. My real question is, will these courses work for someone who can't read music or tablature? Just chord charts.
Thanks!

I've been a member for a couple years. I like his courses and lessons & seminars setup. I like the video play through and there's printed material and backing tracks depending on what the lesson is. It's worked for me, given a busy schedule with both job and active touring setup. I also like that it's just you, so self motivate, do a lesson twice, work on something for a while...no pressure.

Also, I don't find the lessons are as 'talky' as his videos where are more seminar like. Beyond that, he doesn't present everything. Actually, these days the bulk of the lessons are others, including some top professionals in their genres. I even have a friend or two who've done some guest lessons for him.
 
Last edited:
Yo! Anyone here use Scott's Bass Lessons? Now that I'm retired I have time to work on my playing. My real question is, will these courses work for someone who can't read music or tablature? Just chord charts.
Thanks!

Reading tab is easy, there are courses specifically on building up sight reading and fingerboard knowledge and the courses have a very broad range of technique and genre and theory stuff which aren’t fluffy like the free YouTube videos.

that said if you were interested in reading and theory and such, Ariane Cap’s course might also be something to consider.

B>
 
  • Like
Reactions: johnsonabq
Well I wanted to play the snot out of my first Dingwall for a few days and really explore it before posting thoughts. And really I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already - I'm extremely impressed with the playability and design. I'm not really an upper register player so the fanned frets have been no issue at all and are very comfortable by the nut.

The one issue I am having trouble adapting to is the EQ section (high and low mids) vs a traditional 3 band EQ. Being a more traditional type player and not really buying this for down-tuned metal stuff I would've gone with a regular Combustion but the price was good enough I suppose I could switch that later and still be ahead if I can't adapt.
As much as I love the sound of it I don't think it will be too long before adding a 4 string Droc for some variety.
 
I was baffled, but I do feel better knowing that I'm on the same page as someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I'm almost half tempted to drive up there on a day off and see if I can recreate the issue, but seeing as how it's about 75 miles from my house and we'll be there again in a few months, I'll just stew about it...




I don't think so. When the buzzing started, I actually unplugged from the board, and went cord straight into the amp. I took one of the cords and went straight from my amp's tuner out into the tuner on my board(no return), so that shouldn't have been an issue. One thing I didn't mention previously, is that it got better as the night went on. By the time we got to the 2nd set, I was able to reroute everything back thru my board. It still buzzed, and the volume disparity was still there, but it was usable. The amp wasn't cold, I don't leave it out in the garage, but it was like everything had to warm up. I've had the same pedals on my board for a little while. It's the exact same setup I ran the week prior with no issues. My test last night did not involve my board, so I do need to try that to rule some things out before Friday night...

Idk. Any pedals rely on battery power? A ground issue in the bassss jack?
 
Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot I like about Scott’s bass lessons. I bought a lifetime membership many years ago for under $200. I work through the courses, and loved the play through videos. There’s so much to do and see.

There’s just something about the website layout that I don’t get. Seems like it should be easier to search and find things.

I don’t want a step by step, “put your fingers here” lesson, which is what many of his YouTube “come on” lessons entail.

I want to hear it, and see it written in standard notation. Tab is okay, but it would be great if I could hit a “no tab” option, and not see it. Mostly because I’m working on my reading.

I sometimes want to take a stab at reading it before I hear it, and see how close I got. So I’d like to see each lesson have the written sheet music with the tempo noted.

Mostly, I wish I’d learned how to read when I was a kid.
 
Well I wanted to play the snot out of my first Dingwall for a few days and really explore it before posting thoughts. And really I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already - I'm extremely impressed with the playability and design. I'm not really an upper register player so the fanned frets have been no issue at all and are very comfortable by the nut.

The one issue I am having trouble adapting to is the EQ section (high and low mids) vs a traditional 3 band EQ. Being a more traditional type player and not really buying this for down-tuned metal stuff I would've gone with a regular Combustion but the price was good enough I suppose I could switch that later and still be ahead if I can't adapt.
As much as I love the sound of it I don't think it will be too long before adding a 4 string Droc for some variety.

To my ear, the bass response of the DGTC is overpowering. Backing off that bass knob really opens things up. I'm not playing down-tuned metal either (praise music). :cool:
 
  • Like
Reactions: BassBH and Ryno1330
Well I wanted to play the snot out of my first Dingwall for a few days and really explore it before posting thoughts. And really I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already - I'm extremely impressed with the playability and design. I'm not really an upper register player so the fanned frets have been no issue at all and are very comfortable by the nut.

The one issue I am having trouble adapting to is the EQ section (high and low mids) vs a traditional 3 band EQ. Being a more traditional type player and not really buying this for down-tuned metal stuff I would've gone with a regular Combustion but the price was good enough I suppose I could switch that later and still be ahead if I can't adapt.
As much as I love the sound of it I don't think it will be too long before adding a 4 string Droc for some variety.

Honestly, I treat it just like a traditional EQ. The voicing of the low-mids and the hi-mids aren't too far off from some standard EQ centers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ryno1330
Well I wanted to play the snot out of my first Dingwall for a few days and really explore it before posting thoughts. And really I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already - I'm extremely impressed with the playability and design. I'm not really an upper register player so the fanned frets have been no issue at all and are very comfortable by the nut.

The one issue I am having trouble adapting to is the EQ section (high and low mids) vs a traditional 3 band EQ. Being a more traditional type player and not really buying this for down-tuned metal stuff I would've gone with a regular Combustion but the price was good enough I suppose I could switch that later and still be ahead if I can't adapt.
As much as I love the sound of it I don't think it will be too long before adding a 4 string Droc for some variety.

give the dark glass a chance. I’m a metal head in a jazz/Latin fusion gig and have learned to really explore it. try rolling the Highs right down. There is tons of room to explore the low mids especially in combination with the lows. I find the lows will float between 3-8 but the low mids are all about specific desired flavour. The high miss can still be bright at 0. Depended on the rest of your gear too for obvious reasons.