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- Thread starter FroggyOne2
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Roughly since being acquired by Korg, I won’t get into a couple reviews of customers placing a few custom orders with sub appealing results as that is no specific data point, but they do seem to be back logged with orders for their biggest distributors and it seems the smaller guys are getting less priority. It also seems as thou the Customer relations department hasn’t been to keen on honouring long standing personal relations with some of their most loyal endorsers… for decades.
those points are based on comments by individuals and that is to be taken with a grain of salt.
what I see thou is this
and it does not make me a pleased supporter) since Korg has come along, Spector has released I think at least 4-5 more production models.
A brief not specific summary:
Spector has the lowest performer series, followed by the legend series and then you have Euros and then the USA models. So you have an entry point, a nicer entry point, a combustion level bass(euro, no final US set up but a really premium bass for a “production” model) Then the American customs.
It all makes relative sense to hold different allocations in the varied customer base right? It allows a broke teenager to have a “Spector” for $500 or, a serious artist to spec out his $5K dream.
the thing is… Spector used to mean something and it was really a mix of Euro and American made basses that set them apart as unique and iconic.
I see the brand diluting. That is what I don’t like. I like that they are trying FF with the dimension but really… meh. That’s about all I can say about the new lines. The rest are just more market fluff on the quantity not quality end.
The newest release, the RST, is an Ibanez… for more money… meh.. it looks like a cool bass but it doesn’t at all look like what a Spector should be and is. I fully get brands need to evolve and adapt but that’s not at all what I see with Spector. I see them grabbing every idea the team put on the table and tossing them to market to see if they stick. It definitely lacks the brand integrity and ingenuity I’d hope for that put them on the map as iconic.
I think in the last 4 years they’ve come up to 7-8(?) different production lines? Plus euros. Plus US builds. It’s not like any one single production line they have does anything special… at all in the bass market.
They could get into doing some custom FF options in the US shop … or something. IDK. just ranting.
That business plan to me pretty clearly says one thing. We want your money so buy “something” from us and does not say,”this is what we do” with pride.
Meh
Roughly since being acquired by Korg, I won’t get into a couple reviews of customers placing a few custom orders with sub appealing results as that is no specific data point, but they do seem to be back logged with orders for their biggest distributors and it seems the smaller guys are getting less priority. It also seems as thou the Customer relations department hasn’t been to keen on honouring long standing personal relations with some of their most loyal endorsers… for decades.
those points are based on comments by individuals and that is to be taken with a grain of salt.
what I see thou is this
since Korg has come along, Spector has released I think at least 4-5 more production models.
A brief not specific summary:
Spector has the lowest performer series, followed by the legend series and then you have Euros and then the USA models. So you have an entry point, a nicer entry point, a combustion level bass(euro, no final US set up but a really premium bass for a “production” model) Then the American customs.
It all makes relative sense to hold different allocations in the varied customer base right? It allows a broke teenager to have a “Spector” for $500 or, a serious artist to spec out his $5K dream.
the thing is… Spector used to mean something and it was really a mix of Euro and American made basses that set them apart as unique and iconic.
I see the brand diluting. That is what I don’t like. I like that they are trying FF with the dimension but really… meh. That’s about all I can say about the new lines. The rest are just more market fluff on the quantity not quality end.
The newest release, the RST, is an Ibanez… for more money… meh.. it looks like a cool bass but it doesn’t at all look like what a Spector should be and is. I fully get brands need to evolve and adapt but that’s not at all what I see with Spector. I see them grabbing every idea the team put on the table and tossing them to market to see if they stick. It definitely lacks the brand integrity and ingenuity I’d hope for that put them on the map as iconic.
I think in the last 4 years they’ve come up to 7-8(?) different production lines? Plus euros. Plus US builds. It’s not like any one single production line they have does anything special… at all in the bass market.
They could get into doing some custom FF options in the US shop … or something. IDK. just ranting.
That business plan to me pretty clearly says one thing. We want your money so buy “something” from us and does not say,”this is what we do” with pride.
Meh
That is one thing I like about Dingwall. They are trying to reach out a bit to have a range, but they don't want to compromise the end product.
I could not have said it better myself. I played a brand new korg ns5xl and it was nothing special. A letdown tbh
NAMM Bass
I'm gonna have to pop by the booth to see this.
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I'm gonna have to pop by the booth to see this.
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The green afterburner is pretty much my ideal bass, great colour, 3 pickups, maple board and passive circuit, gorgeous ( just needs a B string )
Joined a new band ( lead vocal & bass ), covering a wide range of stuff from heavy rock through to rocked up pop songs.
Those that still maintain that Dingwall's are limited to metal are missing out.
The range of tones on my D-roc 5 are superb and fit easily into every playing style in our set.
Those that still maintain that Dingwall's are limited to metal are missing out.
The range of tones on my D-roc 5 are superb and fit easily into every playing style in our set.
Roughly since being acquired by Korg, I won’t get into a couple reviews of customers placing a few custom orders with sub appealing results as that is no specific data point, but they do seem to be back logged with orders for their biggest distributors and it seems the smaller guys are getting less priority. It also seems as thou the Customer relations department hasn’t been to keen on honouring long standing personal relations with some of their most loyal endorsers… for decades.
those points are based on comments by individuals and that is to be taken with a grain of salt.
what I see thou is this
since Korg has come along, Spector has released I think at least 4-5 more production models.
A brief not specific summary:
Spector has the lowest performer series, followed by the legend series and then you have Euros and then the USA models. So you have an entry point, a nicer entry point, a combustion level bass(euro, no final US set up but a really premium bass for a “production” model) Then the American customs.
It all makes relative sense to hold different allocations in the varied customer base right? It allows a broke teenager to have a “Spector” for $500 or, a serious artist to spec out his $5K dream.
the thing is… Spector used to mean something and it was really a mix of Euro and American made basses that set them apart as unique and iconic.
I see the brand diluting. That is what I don’t like. I like that they are trying FF with the dimension but really… meh. That’s about all I can say about the new lines. The rest are just more market fluff on the quantity not quality end.
The newest release, the RST, is an Ibanez… for more money… meh.. it looks like a cool bass but it doesn’t at all look like what a Spector should be and is. I fully get brands need to evolve and adapt but that’s not at all what I see with Spector. I see them grabbing every idea the team put on the table and tossing them to market to see if they stick. It definitely lacks the brand integrity and ingenuity I’d hope for that put them on the map as iconic.
I think in the last 4 years they’ve come up to 7-8(?) different production lines? Plus euros. Plus US builds. It’s not like any one single production line they have does anything special… at all in the bass market.
They could get into doing some custom FF options in the US shop … or something. IDK. just ranting.
That business plan to me pretty clearly says one thing. We want your money so buy “something” from us and does not say,”this is what we do” with pride.
Meh
I just wanna back track to a comment I just made about Korg, which is slightly off topic and more related to the business side of bass. It’s also currently not relevant to dingwall aside from a potential future of any business.
I’ve had a few convos now privately and want to clarify my boisterous opinion.
I think Spector makes amazing basses and since Korgs involvement most of the basses the custom shop are putting out are absolutely delicious. It’s seems the shop is stepping up their game there and I hope they are as amazing as they look.
My issue is that Korg is turning a mom and pop shop into a fast food chain that offers steak, to sum it up.
This is my distaste for the take over.
I don’t see it as a huge concern for a brand that makes preamps, pedals and such(DG) but for a boutique builder offering custom 1 of a kind items to get saturated with 10 happy meal line offerings is disconcerting. It dilutes the brand.
Sorry for the derail.
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Dingwall is taking a Fretless with the new style lines to NAMM.
Roasted Ash neck with Ebony board.
Roasted Ash neck with Ebony board.
Now… brand specific controversy… 
is this sacrilege???
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is this sacrilege???
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Now… brand specific controversy…
is this sacrilege???
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Absolutely not!
What I'm considering is sacrilege. I have a wenge/wenge AB neck that I'm going to build a body for. Not complete sacrilege, as I have a pair of FD3s and bluecube electronics to use as well.
I'm waffling between building a true long scale T-bird, explorer body, flying V, or if I'm feeling truly conservative, a
long scale P bass, or a design of my own that borrows elements of a Skjold Firedrake and Lakland.
As I had them dismantled that thought crossed my mind as well but I can’t afford the time for a project like that.
a V Would be deadly!!!!
The Darkenstein on the left is probably getting a couple of Active EMGs. Last night I loaded in a P tone and wired the bridge in series. It’s a monster but I’ve been fixated on at least trying the EMGs in a dingwall for a bit.
I also may swap the glockenklang for a DGTC
That roasted ash/ebony FB combo has me thinking about my 17-months-in build (currently wenge/wenge...which I already have on my Z2). The shop likes late-in-the-game changes, right?
Now… brand specific controversy…
is this sacrilege???
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Visually I like both better after so that's good. Any commentary on the sound changes ?
I actually thought I wonder if DW could route and put a 5 string neck/bridge on a 4 string D Bird
I actually thought I wonder if DW could route and put a 5 string neck/bridge on a 4 string D Bird
I wouldn't put it past Mo's shop being able to do something like that!
I've wanted a D bird and Super P so badly, but I know I would miss that 37" B string. So, I'm gonna roll my own!
