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Ok Super Fatty experts. On a Z or Sklar, if Super Fatty II's are ordered, how do the Bridge and Middle positions come wired? Are the pickups themselves wired in parallel or series?

Also on the factory 4-way, is position 2 in series or parallel?

D-Roc selector: bridge and middle pickups are wired series, neck is parallel:
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3x selector: bridge and neck are series, middle is parallel:

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Not sure what happens in 2 pickups Z2s and Sklars :/

I think the idea is that regardless of the switch:

- for "solo pickup" selector positions, the pickups are wired in series
- for selector positions where two pickups are combined is parallel (eg. BN parallel on 3x switch), both pickups are wired in series
- for selector positions where two pickups are combined is series (eg. BM series on D-Roc switch), one of the pickups is wired in parallel
(and then there is the "all on D-roc exception but logic still stands)

In my mind that kind of matches the most useful combinations - having used 6 way switches and series/parallel toggles for a couple of years, and unless I am looking for a very specific tone, I almost always leave the toggles in series mode unless I use 2 pickups together in series (which can be a bit too much). And it avoids overly thin sounding positions with lots of volume drop.

Basically (on my latest switch) :
Bs Ns in Parallel
Bs Mp in Series (that's he Dingwall version) or vice versa
Bs Ms is Parallel
Solo -- Bs or Ms or Ns

...and a conclusion that one push-pull to toggle the middle pickup would be enough for me 95% of the time. YMMV
 
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D-Roc selector: bridge and middle pickups are wired series, neck is parallel:
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3x selector: bridge and neck are series, middle is parallel:

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Not sure what happens in 2 pickups Z2s and Sklars :/

I think the idea is that regardless of the switch:

- for "solo pickup" selector positions, the pickups are wired in series
- for selector positions where two pickups are combined is parallel (eg. BN parallel on 3x switch), both pickups are wired in series
- for selector positions where two pickups are combined is series (eg. BM series on D-Roc switch), one of the pickups is wired in parallel
(and then there is the "all on D-roc exception but logic still stands)

In my mind that kind of matches the most useful combinations - having used 6 way switches and series/parallel toggles for a couple of years, and unless I am looking for a very specific tone, I almost always leave the toggles in series mode unless I use 2 pickups together in series (which can be a bit too much). And it avoids overly thin sounding positions with lots of volume drop.

Basically (on my latest switch) :
Bs Ns in Parallel
Bs Mp in Series (that's he Dingwall version) or vice versa
Bs Ms is Parallel
Solo -- Bs or Ms or Ns

...and a conclusion that one push-pull to toggle the middle pickup would be enough for me 95% of the time. YMMV
Excellent, this is exactly what Im looking for, thanks!

Im currently using a custom 4-way switch in my C5 with ALL three pickups (FD3n/FD3n/P-Tone) wired series internally.

The switch goes like this:

1. Bridge/Middle Parallel
2. Middle Solo
3. Bridge/Neck Parallel
4. Neck Solo

So your assessment jives with what I am currently doing and have experienced. I'm considering the same 4-way switch for my Z that will be built soon with SF2/SF2/P-Tone.
 
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Has anyone tried or considered a solid walnut body ABZ or AB1? I've considered in for my ABZ 6 build for it's appearance and hardness, but I'm not too sure what to expect for the weight. The only solid walnut dingwalls I've seen are Zs and that 5-string prima that keeps getting moved around, which I realize both have a thinner body.
my ab1 six string is walnut
 
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I should have mentioned the combinations for the 4 way switches:

D-Roc selector: bridge and middle pickups are wired series, neck is parallel:

Bs Solo
BsMs Parallel
Ms Solo
BsMs Parallel in Series with Np


3x selector: bridge and neck are series, middle is parallel:

Bs Solo
BsMp Series
BsNs Parallel
Ns Solo

And speaking of 6-way switches and series/parallel toggles, here's a demo video from John Fox Bass - I think the first one running through custom switches and toggles.

The switch is actually mine and on its way to me across the atlantic. Will report on the switch and its container in due time :smug:

 
...and the switch was made by @maurilio https://www.talkbass.com/members/maurilio.32457/
Hey, do you have a weight for that one?

Now that I’m back home and slightly more calm, I’m going to finally put all of the data I collected on a Google drive and link it in the thread tomorrow.
You can add a Super J5 - northern ash & alder body, roasted ash neck, wenge fretboard @ 10lbs 0.7oz (4.6 kg)

I was warned and this could be the heaviest fiver on your list so far :nailbiting:

Will remind me of an early GL L2000 with 'hog body that was over 11lbs.
 
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So Ive decided to go Candy Black Cherry on my Z. Wenge neck/fretboard. For some reason the most paralyzing last choice for me is whether I want the matching painted headstock or the wenge wood headstock.

Somebody fix me.
Funny I had the same difficulty deciding between a matching or wood headstock on my Z order. I chose Ari gold for the color, and like you, wenge for the neck (macassar ebony for the fb). I love the look of wenge, which made the choice difficult. I ultimately decided on a matching headstock. I think having the body and headstock match gives the bass a symmetry and makes the body color stand out more. What did you decide?
 
Funny I had the same difficulty deciding between a matching or wood headstock on my Z order. I chose Ari gold for the color, and like you, wenge for the neck (macassar ebony for the fb). I love the look of wenge, which made the choice difficult. I ultimately decided on a matching headstock. I think having the body and headstock match gives the bass a symmetry and makes the body color stand out more. What did you decide?

I ended up going with the matching headstock. Now the waiting game begins...
 
Maybe someone that has played both can help. P or J? I’m thinking J. Here’s why - I play mostly the P or J positions on my Afterburners and the J neck sounds more like a P than the PJ in parallel sounds like a J. So I could go with a 2 pickup J and be happy. I rarely use the MM setting.
 
So in many years of bass playing, i have never once weighed a bass. This is rather funny because i ride competition (pedal) bikes and weigh them obsessively. So i weighed my bases with my bike scale. Strap locks on, no strap.

2004 dan electro longhorn 6lbs 6oz
2022 4005 xc 8lbs, 12 oz
2016 ab1 xxx fiver 8lbs, 13 oz
1972 ric 4001- 8 lbs 14 oz
2021 ng3 5er 9lbs 2oz
2020 4003 monti brown 9 lbs 4 oz
2021 jetglo 4003 9lbs 11oz
1996 jazz with chrome covers… 9lbs 11oz.
1996 ric 4003 10lbs 5oz (upgraded honking horseshoe pickup)
2022 ab1 xxx f# 6 string with walnut body 10lbs 14oz.

Of interest… the jazz feels the heaviest of all playing it. The six feels heaviest lifting it… but once it is on it feels lighter than the ricks.

Maybe it is because i am not a boomer… but to me balance > weight. As in… i notice a unbalanced bass… but when playing 8 vs 11 lbs i have yet to notice… even in a long gig.

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p.s. i took the stickers off the ricks. Except the 4005.
@shade_1313 new super j is 8.27lbs (8lbs, 4.6oz). walnut ab1 is above.
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