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Fender logos on Squier basses...

#341
C.Linton said:
it really all boils down to being afraid of being ridiculed by others, (some have actually admitted that's exactly why they do it) which is a ridiculous reason to do anything.
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Perhaps, but so what? What if you're totally right, and all this is just people behaving like insecure children afraid of ridicule.

OK, so what? Why does something do silly and trivial get such a rise out of people? THAT'S what I don't get.
 
#342
MarkoYYZ said:
I know what you're trying to do and I understand, but you're still wrong.

Money is made specifically to change hands and represent an exact value. It's currency created for the sole purpose of moving from one party to another.

An object like a bass is not. I understand that someone can be misled as to the value of a bass, but currency is just not the same thing.
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You, sir, do not seem to have an understanding of capitalism, or money. In a medieval existence, an object like a musical instrument might be what you have described. In a capitalist society, a manufactured product is: "made specifically to change hands" (1/2 of your definition of money), and your other 1/2 of the money definition: "(made to) represent an exact value" is an absolutely false description of money, which has a value that varies by the minute.
 
#345
Major Softie said:
You, sir, do not seem to have an understanding of capitalism, or money. In a medieval existence, an object like a musical instrument might be what you have described. In a capitalist society, a manufactured product is: "made specifically to change hands" (1/2 of your definition of money), and your other 1/2 of the money definition: "(made to) represent an exact value" is an absolutely false description of money, which has a value that varies by the minute.
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I understand capitalism just fine - I'm in manufacturing FFS.

The manufacturer gets to exchange the instrument for money exactly once. It may or may not ever change hands again, depending on what it is. A $10 bill, on the other hand, is made specifically to keep changing hands and can do so hundreds of times a day and each time, it is to be worth the $10 that is marked on it. The marking IS the value and you have to give up $10 worth of your time, material, talent, whatever in exchange for it.

The value of $1 does change and consequently what you will exchange for it, but the number of dollars that a $10 bill is worth does not.
 
#347
OK

So here is a slightly different example but same principle I suppose.

I wanted a 1951 Fender P bass in medium scale, but they don't make them, I doubt if the custom shop even would. Even Fender Japan does not make a 32" scale neck with a tele style headstock.

So, I was lucky enough to find a Fender medium scale Jazz Bass neck with a maple board (talk about RARE!)

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and had it re-shaped into a tele headstock. Since that ruined the decal, I chose to replace it with a P Bass decal as below:

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I wouldn't misrepresent this to anyone, and Fender would probably track me down and crucify me - and still might - but I will never sell this:

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Although I suppose my estate might some day. Transparency, full disclosure, no deceit - I couldn't misrepresent this - everyone knows Fender didn't make a medium scale 1951 P Bass.

So is this any different, and if so, how?

BassHappy
www.innertainment.net

PS: More here: http://www.innertainment.net/1951.html
 
#348
A while back I was selling a couple of cabs on craigslist, and I got a text from a guy saying he was very interested, and asked me if I was interested in a trade. He told me he had a USA jazz bass he would have liked to trade. He sent pictures of a VM Squier jazz with a 70s Fender decal, and the stock serial number left on the back. I called him out on it, and posted a beware add on craigslist with pictures of the bass he tried to rip me off with. But sooner or later he probably found a poor guy that didn't know better and ripped them off.

If anyone's ego is fragile enough to feel the need to put a counterfeit Fender decal on their Squier, if they ever sell that instrument full disclosure is not enough. The decal should be removed from the headstock, because the next person will probably not be as honest. Personally I am against doing it at all, and would rather listen to a great player with a cheap instrument than a so-so player on a Fodera.
 
#358
MarkoYYZ said:
You're still stuck on this! For real?? You don't need to see the point - thousands of people are doing it anyways.
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but why?


swapping the decal to quell insecurites of other musicians laughing at you for playing a squier is more pathetic than actually caring what those people think in the first place.

as for those claiming its just due to aesthetics, I don't believe you. The squier logo is the same old black with gold border around it. IT LOOKS THE SAME.


and as for all posts talking about price difference, really the difference between a squier and some fenders is little more than a few extra weeks of saving wages. If you want a fender just buy a damn fender.
 

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