in front of, but i did use a laney amp that was on the room after the problem, i use the same pedals and cables so i dont think is a bass/pedal trouble
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Question for the Rumblers: Been loving my Rumble 210 cab for about 5 years driven by a TC Electronic BH450, was working great for my indie rock band competing with one other clean-ish guitar (112 combo) and synth; never had any problem with presence or cutting through a mix. I recently started playing in a punk rock act, competing with Marshall half-stacks, and the 210 has not been cutting through the mix at all. Higher notes, say C on the A string and above seem to cut OK, but anything lower just gets buried. I play a 5 string and use low B-C-C# and D a lot, and those notes might as well not even exist. I seem to have plenty of volume, but getting louder just lets my higher notes cut more and keeps me buried in the low end.
I have an old Crate 2x15 (300 watt 4 ohm) I've been using the last month or so of practices, my low end presence is back but the cab does have a tendency to fart out on lower notes. We are about to be show ready so I am looking to remedy my cab situation in the next week or so, but am not sure what to do. Conventional non-cab mixing wisdom tells me just add an additional 210 but I'm worried I will just have more volume with the same neutered low end... Do you guys think adding a 115 or even a 112 will get me closer to the low end territory I want to be in, or is it possible that I'm asking too much of these neat little rumble cabs and I should maybe look at a higher-performance cabinet?
I have an old Crate 2x15 (300 watt 4 ohm) I've been using the last month or so of practices, my low end presence is back but the cab does have a tendency to fart out on lower notes. We are about to be show ready so I am looking to remedy my cab situation in the next week or so, but am not sure what to do. Conventional non-cab mixing wisdom tells me just add an additional 210 but I'm worried I will just have more volume with the same neutered low end... Do you guys think adding a 115 or even a 112 will get me closer to the low end territory I want to be in, or is it possible that I'm asking too much of these neat little rumble cabs and I should maybe look at a higher-performance cabinet?
New Rumble Rig Day!
I got in a pair of Rumble 112’s from @blmeier7 yesterday. Thanks, Brett.
He’s a great guy to deal with.
I paired these with a recently acquired Rumble 500 Head.
I have a new compact Rumble Rig that adds versatility to my choice of rig depending upon what is needed for a particular situation.
I’m thinking that I am really going to enjoy this rig and the additional options that it affords me.
This is in addition to my 500 Combo with with its Rumble 210 extension cab.
I also acquired an additional set of 2 Rumble 210 cabs to be able to pair them with the 500H if I need a backup or alternate to my Combo rig.
I guess if I ever needed to get really crazy and blow the doors and windows out or scare all the critters if I am outside, I could chain the two 500’s together and have a 1000w 810 Rumble stack.
I got in a pair of Rumble 112’s from @blmeier7 yesterday. Thanks, Brett.
He’s a great guy to deal with.
I paired these with a recently acquired Rumble 500 Head.
I have a new compact Rumble Rig that adds versatility to my choice of rig depending upon what is needed for a particular situation.
I’m thinking that I am really going to enjoy this rig and the additional options that it affords me.
This is in addition to my 500 Combo with with its Rumble 210 extension cab.
I also acquired an additional set of 2 Rumble 210 cabs to be able to pair them with the 500H if I need a backup or alternate to my Combo rig.
I guess if I ever needed to get really crazy and blow the doors and windows out or scare all the critters if I am outside, I could chain the two 500’s together and have a 1000w 810 Rumble stack.
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I recently picked up a Rumble 800 head so I can leave my 1x15 cabinet in our rehearsal space (I also have the 500 combo) and played with it tonight for the first time. Man, I'm in love. I have no hate towards my 500 combo, but the sound of that 15 is just a fuller rounder sound on lower notes. It wasn't muddy and cut through the mix fine. I can't imagine how good a second 1x15 cabinet would sound. I love my Rumbles.
Rock on!
Rock on!
If You ask me, I'd consider looking at the frequencies of the guitars and bass.
Maybe they should roll off some freqs of Your territory, specially lows, so You could "live" there better.
Also it depends a lot on the room You play in, sometimes rolling back lows or using a low pass filter makes low notes cut through better. I know it sounds weird.
At least worth a try.
Anyone ever used a markbass head with a rumble cab? Thinking of doing this... a markbass little mark tube and a rumble 115
R100 combo is great! I’ve got one. It’s perfect size/weight for home, band rehearsals, even small, (maybe) medium sized gigs. Super easy to transport, and sounds really great too.
Of course I'm re-thinking my actions. I played a gig this weekend and I couldn't have been happier. The tone out of this combo (500 head/115 cab) fit perfectly. My upright was on point and my precision bass was on point too. I am sure that I could go either way. If I had brought the RS210 cab and LMII head, I would have been happy too. I will sit pretty for now, not make a move, and in time I will decided what to do. The R100 is a definite though. For $300 I think its fair to say, "Gimme, gimme". I can save a few dollars by the years end and justify 'another' rig. My wife doesn't understand. :-( LOL
Here is an example of my upright through a Rumble 500 on top of a 115 cab. I am also using a preamp with a fingerboard clicky piezo and a bridge wing piezo.
I agree- I just sold my 210 cab and my new 115 should be here today!
After taking an 8 month hiatus from the world of bass (new baby takes up a lot of time 
) I finally got back to playing last week.
I got together with an acoustic guitar player (who has actually had my Rumble 500 at his house for the past 8 months and has never turned it on) and took along my Ibanez Mikro as it was the one that had a gig bag within quick reach.
After about 15 minutes of playing, he stopped looked at the amp and said "wow, did that always sound so good???"
Tomorrow I get back together with a couple of guys from a previous Reggae project, I am sure the 500 will be just as smooth as I remember!
) I finally got back to playing last week.I got together with an acoustic guitar player (who has actually had my Rumble 500 at his house for the past 8 months and has never turned it on) and took along my Ibanez Mikro as it was the one that had a gig bag within quick reach.
After about 15 minutes of playing, he stopped looked at the amp and said "wow, did that always sound so good???"
Tomorrow I get back together with a couple of guys from a previous Reggae project, I am sure the 500 will be just as smooth as I remember!
A few things, as I have a similar situation as you:
1. Adding another 2x10 is the best course of action. More volume, more SPL, matched drivers.
2. The 1x15 will not add any more low end than the 2x10, the "15s are for BASS" is a myth.
3. Competing against Marshall half-stacks, with idiot guitar players who don't respect frequency space is a lost cause. I run a Rumble 800 Head and 2 2x10s.
Band A - two guitar players with Twin Reverbs, I never have to turn up loud and always fit perfectly in the mix.
Band B - two Marshall half-stacks, both with 4x12 cabs and super scooped settings....there is no rig on earth that will get me through that mix and I am not lugging an SVT and 8x10 to play at Greasy Sam's local townie bar.
Proper band eq'ing is very overlooked by many, yet super important. I sold and flipped so much gear because of Band B, always thinking it was my basses or amps. Now I realize that it has nothing to do with it since I love my sound in Band A.
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As posted early had issues with my Studio 40 making a weird noise when being played at even low volumes. Fender replaced with no questions. Got it back the other day and found that there may have been some other issue going on because this one sound about 10 times better than the old. So happy to have it back.
The new 115 is here! With the 500 head it sounds a lot like the 200 combo which is what I was hoping.
I don't know about the 210, but in my subjective opinion and that of others I have talked to, the 115 has more low end than the 112.
I have no experience with the 1X12 or really any combo/cab I've owned. However, I agree with twc1313 that the 2X10 has every bit the low end as any 15 - and I've played a slew of them over the years!
Yep, this. You need to look at the low end roll off for the drivers. Or, just run a sine wave generator through the cabinet starting at 80hz and working your way down (yes I know bass strings are not sine wave generators). The 2x10s drop off sharply below 70hz.
When I asked Eminence what a replacement driver for the 2x10s would be, the speaker they quoted was good to about 70hz and dropped like a rock from there.
I have an 800 head with a 1x15 cabinet and a 500c. The 1x15 with same EQ offers more bass.
I went and got a low cost, $100, EQ pedal, Harke bass Attack 2, and it made a giant leap forward providing a Clean Tone at volume. Could not get anywhere near this level of clarity otherwise.
In case anyone is still interested: today Fender gave me a shiny new Rumble 500, still in box. Pretty dang good customer service in my opinion, although I had to borrow an amp for the couple of weeks it took it to get here.
