Fender Rumble Club

[GonePlaid]

I actually think we're going to get a Rumble Micro. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that all the modeling Rumbles and the Mustang amps use the same ARM-based SoC or DSP. I'm not saying they do but I don't see why they wouldn't. It would likely cost more to redesign one for the Mustang Micro than they'd ever get back.

If we assume the bass and guitars need specific "preamps" and that the Micros would require another new design as well then there's the answer why we don't have a Rumble version. But I feel like it's odd we'd have the Mustang Micro at all in this case. Also we'd have to ignore the fact that the Mustang Micro actually sounds really good on bass with the studio preamp. Not to mention the LT amps. Those make very little sense to me from a business perspective if they come with the full R&D cost.

So the most likely scenario is that it's just a case of a programmer needing to adopt their current models and effects to the new interface and then stick them in.

And if it's all that easy than what Fender can do next year is release the Rumble Micro. Just start having the factory print Rumble instead of Mustang on the current lineup on weekends and stick that piece of firmware on it. Heck Fender could even be really cool and allow you to swap firmware between Rumble Micros and Mustang Micros effectively giving everyone access to both but not at once.

And that's what I suspect is going to happen. It makes a lot of sense both for reasons I outline below and the fact that they almost certainly want to do a bass version right. Fender doesn't leave us bassists behind! Anyway you can ignore or continue my essay below:

I know I would have preordered my Mustang Micro if that was an option but I doubt they sell like hot cakes. My YouTube analytics do show it's got increased interest but not in such a way I feel point to anything other than I'm one of the few people who have videos of running a bass through one. So I suspect Fender wouldn't have made this device if they weren't able to reuse a lot of existing tech.

Which doesn't at all seem crazy to me. Almost every piece of technology that isn't top-end is actually just the bits that weren't good enough to be sold as the high end gear. My CPU for instance is an old Intel i5 6600k. Which means the chip itself was actually really high quality for a consumer grade chip but it failed hyperthreading validation so it couldn't become an i7. And it was destined to be a consumer chip because of that but it does seem power efficient enough for a server. Which is kind of funny but that happens. Intel's loss was my gain!

My Sennheiser HD558 headphones are just the HD598 that had foam stuck to the insides of the grilles to make them sound worse. Took out the foam and bam $300 headphones for $100.

My Nintendo Switch Lite is the same inside as my Sister's full Switch, minus some battery, a video output chip, and a totally different outside. And it was literally half the price. And the examples just go on and on and on. It's the cheaper way to do things, and I'd say the better way as well. It'll ensure higher quality throughout your whole range of products while avoiding waste from high-end production.

Which leads me back to my theory that this is what the Mustang Micro is. Fender's been using these chips for years now and nothing that I know about them suggests you can't run the entire preamp off a battery and control it with 9 buttons and a knob. So we'll probably get a Rumble Micro in the future. I'm sure COVID will have delayed it but I'd be shocked to find out that I'm way off on all this and it'd just not be worth the cost; thus not happening.

Not quite sure what yer saying, but I defend yer right to say it-I think.

 

[GonePlaid]

Not quite sure how it happened, but I'm gigging Fri/Sat/Sun, 6/4-6/6. I haven't gigged 3 days in a row since...uhh,...(what decade is this?)...prolly 2001.

 

[Pulverizor]

Not quite sure how it happened, but I'm gigging Fri/Sat/Sun, 6/4-6/6. I haven't gigged 3 days in a row since...uhh,...(what decade is this?)...prolly 2001.

Better look after your vocal cords then:

 

[Black Out Jazz]

I actually think we're going to get a Rumble Micro. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that all the modeling Rumbles and the Mustang amps use the same ARM-based SoC or DSP. I'm not saying they do but I don't see why they wouldn't. It would likely cost more to redesign one for the Mustang Micro than they'd ever get back.

If we assume the bass and guitars need specific "preamps" and that the Micros would require another new design as well then there's the answer why we don't have a Rumble version. But I feel like it's odd we'd have the Mustang Micro at all in this case. Also we'd have to ignore the fact that the Mustang Micro actually sounds really good on bass with the studio preamp. Not to mention the LT amps. Those make very little sense to me from a business perspective if they come with the full R&D cost.

So the most likely scenario is that it's just a case of a programmer needing to adopt their current models and effects to the new interface and then stick them in.

And if it's all that easy than what Fender can do next year is release the Rumble Micro. Just start having the factory print Rumble instead of Mustang on the current lineup on weekends and stick that piece of firmware on it. Heck Fender could even be really cool and allow you to swap firmware between Rumble Micros and Mustang Micros effectively giving everyone access to both but not at once.

And that's what I suspect is going to happen. It makes a lot of sense both for reasons I outline below and the fact that they almost certainly want to do a bass version right. Fender doesn't leave us bassists behind! Anyway you can ignore or continue my essay below:

I know I would have preordered my Mustang Micro if that was an option but I doubt they sell like hot cakes. My YouTube analytics do show it's got increased interest but not in such a way I feel point to anything other than I'm one of the few people who have videos of running a bass through one. So I suspect Fender wouldn't have made this device if they weren't able to reuse a lot of existing tech.

Which doesn't at all seem crazy to me. Almost every piece of technology that isn't top-end is actually just the bits that weren't good enough to be sold as the high end gear. My CPU for instance is an old Intel i5 6600k. Which means the chip itself was actually really high quality for a consumer grade chip but it failed hyperthreading validation so it couldn't become an i7. And it was destined to be a consumer chip because of that but it does seem power efficient enough for a server. Which is kind of funny but that happens. Intel's loss was my gain!

My Sennheiser HD558 headphones are just the HD598 that had foam stuck to the insides of the grilles to make them sound worse. Took out the foam and bam $300 headphones for $100.

My Nintendo Switch Lite is the same inside as my Sister's full Switch, minus some battery, a video output chip, and a totally different outside. And it was literally half the price. And the examples just go on and on and on. It's the cheaper way to do things, and I'd say the better way as well. It'll ensure higher quality throughout your whole range of products while avoiding waste from high-end production.

Which leads me back to my theory that this is what the Mustang Micro is. Fender's been using these chips for years now and nothing that I know about them suggests you can't run the entire preamp off a battery and control it with 9 buttons and a knob. So we'll probably get a Rumble Micro in the future. I'm sure COVID will have delayed it but I'd be shocked to find out that I'm way off on all this and it'd just not be worth the cost; thus not happening.

Well written.

 

[Black Out Jazz]

I actually think we're going to get a Rumble Micro. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that all the modeling Rumbles and the Mustang amps use the same ARM-based SoC or DSP. I'm not saying they do but I don't see why they wouldn't. It would likely cost more to redesign one for the Mustang Micro than they'd ever get back.

If we assume the bass and guitars need specific "preamps" and that the Micros would require another new design as well then there's the answer why we don't have a Rumble version. But I feel like it's odd we'd have the Mustang Micro at all in this case. Also we'd have to ignore the fact that the Mustang Micro actually sounds really good on bass with the studio preamp. Not to mention the LT amps. Those make very little sense to me from a business perspective if they come with the full R&D cost.

So the most likely scenario is that it's just a case of a programmer needing to adopt their current models and effects to the new interface and then stick them in.

And if it's all that easy than what Fender can do next year is release the Rumble Micro. Just start having the factory print Rumble instead of Mustang on the current lineup on weekends and stick that piece of firmware on it. Heck Fender could even be really cool and allow you to swap firmware between Rumble Micros and Mustang Micros effectively giving everyone access to both but not at once.

And that's what I suspect is going to happen. It makes a lot of sense both for reasons I outline below and the fact that they almost certainly want to do a bass version right. Fender doesn't leave us bassists behind! Anyway you can ignore or continue my essay below:

I know I would have preordered my Mustang Micro if that was an option but I doubt they sell like hot cakes. My YouTube analytics do show it's got increased interest but not in such a way I feel point to anything other than I'm one of the few people who have videos of running a bass through one. So I suspect Fender wouldn't have made this device if they weren't able to reuse a lot of existing tech.

Which doesn't at all seem crazy to me. Almost every piece of technology that isn't top-end is actually just the bits that weren't good enough to be sold as the high end gear. My CPU for instance is an old Intel i5 6600k. Which means the chip itself was actually really high quality for a consumer grade chip but it failed hyperthreading validation so it couldn't become an i7. And it was destined to be a consumer chip because of that but it does seem power efficient enough for a server. Which is kind of funny but that happens. Intel's loss was my gain!

My Sennheiser HD558 headphones are just the HD598 that had foam stuck to the insides of the grilles to make them sound worse. Took out the foam and bam $300 headphones for $100.

My Nintendo Switch Lite is the same inside as my Sister's full Switch, minus some battery, a video output chip, and a totally different outside. And it was literally half the price. And the examples just go on and on and on. It's the cheaper way to do things, and I'd say the better way as well. It'll ensure higher quality throughout your whole range of products while avoiding waste from high-end production.

Which leads me back to my theory that this is what the Mustang Micro is. Fender's been using these chips for years now and nothing that I know about them suggests you can't run the entire preamp off a battery and control it with 9 buttons and a knob. So we'll probably get a Rumble Micro in the future. I'm sure COVID will have delayed it but I'd be shocked to find out that I'm way off on all this and it'd just not be worth the cost; thus not happening.

I sent---

"
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Customer Support - Consumer Relations US <[email protected]>;
Subject: Micro for basses?

Hi, Are you guys going to make a Rumble Micro for us Precision and Jazz bass folks like the Mustang Micro for the 6 string crowd? Sure would be nice. We'd buy it, too."

Their response---

"Hello,

Thanks for reaching out.

There is currently no official word as to what future products may be, though I will pass along your interest to the appropriate department.

Have a nice day!

Regards,


Kelsey Frix
Gear Advisor | U.S. Direct Sales Representative
Fender Musical Instruments Corp.
17600 N. Perimeter Dr. Suite 100
Scottsdale AZ 85255
1-800-856-9801 – [email protected]"

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Not quite sure what yer saying, but I defend yer right to say it-I think.

Cwapola. I keep hoping for my second childhood, but I regret to inform myself that I understood every word. I even remember SoC. Sadly, it ain't

 

[SoulReflection]

I sent---

"
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Customer Support - Consumer Relations US <[email protected]>;
Subject: Micro for basses?

Hi, Are you guys going to make a Rumble Micro for us Precision and Jazz bass folks like the Mustang Micro for the 6 string crowd? Sure would be nice. We'd buy it, too."

Their response---

"Hello,

Thanks for reaching out.

There is currently no official word as to what future products may be, though I will pass along your interest to the appropriate department.

Have a nice day!

Regards,


Kelsey Frix
Gear Advisor | U.S. Direct Sales Representative
Fender Musical Instruments Corp.
17600 N. Perimeter Dr. Suite 100
Scottsdale AZ 85255
1-800-856-9801 – [email protected]"

Yep, don't give the competition a heads-up...

 

[GonePlaid]

Better look after your vocal cords then:
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[RL5]

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I like Pulverizor's suggestion better. Although yours might allow me to wake up feeling better the next morning.

 

[Black Out Jazz]

Yep, don't give the competition a heads-up...

What do you mean?

 

[JakobT]

What do you mean?

I expect he means that many companies, apparently Fender included, are very tight-lipped about what products may or may not be in the works in order to preserve competitive advantage.

 

[GonePlaid]

I expect he means that many companies, apparently Fender included, are very tight-lipped about what products may or may not be in the works in order to preserve competitive advantage.

Bingo! We didn't 'know' about the new Yamaha/'Pegs 'til they were out.

 

[SoulReflection]

I expect he means that many companies, apparently Fender included, are very tight-lipped about what products may or may not be in the works in order to preserve competitive advantage.

You nailed it, Sir!

 

[Black Out Jazz]

Gotcha!

 

[G-Dog]

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Well, Yamaha has finally gotten Ampeg into competition with the Fender Rumbles with their new Rocket Bass line! And, on paper, it looks pretty close. It only took 'em 7 years to catch up. The RB-115 even looks 1/2 lb. lighter and just $30 more. But the RB-112 is almost 4 lb.s heavier and is $100 more! Plus, all the Ampegs are just 3-band EQ to Fenders 4-band for the 40 & up.

All new AMPEG Rocket Bass Combo Amp's.
Ampeg Rocket Bass Combos
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Oops! When making that comparison chart I wrongly assumed the RB-210 and RB-115 to be 70% of full power at 8 ohms, like the Rumbles are. But, since I've found the owner's manual, I see they are only 50% of full power at 8 ohms, instead.

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Oops, again! I'm still learning about the new Ampeg Rocket Bass features. And, I was wrong, again, last time about the RB-112 not having an FX Loop. It does have one! Sorry for my previous errors about these.

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[Shawn Luckman]

Oops, again! I'm still learning about the new Ampeg Rocket Bass features. And, I was wrong, again, last time about the RB-112 not having an FX Loop. It does have one! Sorry for my previous errors about these.

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Thanks for this defiantly keeping my Rumble 200 combo .

 

[JakobT]

Oops, again! I'm still learning about the new Ampeg Rocket Bass features. And, I was wrong, again, last time about the RB-112 not having an FX Loop. It does have one! Sorry for my previous errors about these.

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Thanks for that, @G-Dog! If I hadn’t already been well stocked with Rumbles, I might have considered these, but as it is...well...

 

[G-Dog]

Thanks for that, @G-Dog! If I hadn’t already been well stocked with Rumbles, I might have considered these, but as it is...well...

You're welcome, Jakey. I agree with @iagtrplyr that the new Rocket Bass amps are the sincerest form of flattery to the Rumbles! And for those who want that Ampeg tone, and don't mind paying a little more (and getting a little less power & EQ control!) they look pretty good. But, like you, my Rumbles and Bassmen, ... uh, Bassmans(?), ... Bassman amps have me very well stocked.

Oh, and thank you for backing me up on that other Rumble/Bassman thread, too.
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[Troglodyte1911]

Just venting here. I don’t need another combo, at least that is what my wife tells me, but on CL a listing popped up for a gen 1 Rumble 100 in “like new” condition for $50. The listing was 6 hours old when I saw it, but wth, I replied and said I would take it, since pulsing red lights might be interesting. The lister replies and we agree to meet at 11:00 am on Friday (today). He hadn’t provided a place to get it, and I had emailed a couple times asking about where. Well, I’m in DC this morning finishing up some work prior to the arranged time, but still no response with a location. The guy isn’t responding so I figure my wife was right, and I head up the road.

I make another stop and check my email, and this (graphic expletive descriptive deleted) replies and says he raised the price to $100, am I still interested? Had he listed it at $100, I probably still would have gone for it, but he got greedy. I replied that since he reneged on an agreement there was no way I would do business with him.

Had I said yes to $100, I have no doubt this (individual of outstanding moral character - oh, wait…) would have tried to bump the price again. Sorry for the rant, some people really annoy me. If you want to sell something, do your friggin research first, or just don’t be a douche.

 

[Black Out Jazz]

Just venting here. I don’t need another combo, at least that is what my wife tells me, but on CL a listing popped up for a gen 1 Rumble 100 in “like new” condition for $50. The listing was 6 hours old when I saw it, but wth, I replied and said I would take it, since pulsing red lights might be interesting. The lister replies and we agree to meet at 11:00 am on Friday (today). He hadn’t provided a place to get it, and I had emailed a couple times asking about where. Well, I’m in DC this morning finishing up some work prior to the arranged time, but still no response with a location. The guy isn’t responding so I figure my wife was right, and I head up the road.

I make another stop and check my email, and this (graphic expletive descriptive deleted) replies and says he raised the price to $100, am I still interested? Had he listed it at $100, I probably still would have gone for it, but he got greedy. I replied that since he reneged on an agreement there was no way I would do business with him.

Had I said yes to $100, I have no doubt this (individual of outstanding moral character - oh, wait…) would have tried to bump the price again. Sorry for the rant, some people really annoy me. If you want to sell something, do your friggin research first, or just don’t be a douche.

Makes me wonder if he had an amp at all.