Fender Rumble Club

[G-Dog]

Can any Stage 800 users help please; I’m trying to find out if the XLR out is affected by the master volume control. I just read it can be changed to pre EQ, but then you’d lose all your effects through FOH? Can you send an effected signal to FOH with the XLR output to unity and use master to control only the combo volume? Asking as I want to use it as my stage monitor, whilst sending the processed signal to the PA to provide sound out front.

Hey, Matty, in our designated Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800 club sub-thread the main guru there has declared, after testing, that "The Master volume knob on the Rumble Stage/Studio amps has no effect on the level of the sound going into the DAW via either the USB or the XLR outputs." So, feel free to adjust your stage volume without any affect on the XLR Line Out level.

And, please, in the future post such specific Stage & Studio questions in that club sub-thread, won't you? They are SO different from the non-modeling Rumbles that it's good to keep their discussions in that separate club sub-thread for future reference, and to keep from confusing our non-modeling Rumbling brothers and sisters.

Thanks!
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[GonePlaid]

Hey, Matty, in our designated Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800 club sub-thread the main guru there has declared, after testing, that "The Master volume knob on the Rumble Stage/Studio amps has no effect on the level of the sound going into the DAW via either the USB or the XLR outputs." So, feel free to adjust your stage volume without any affect on the XLR Line Out level.

And, please, in the future post such specific Stage & Studio questions in that club sub-thread, won't you? They are SO different from the non-modeling Rumbles that it's good to keep their discussions in that separate club sub-thread for future reference, and to keep from confusing our non-modeling Rumbling brothers and sisters.

Thanks!
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Not to worry in my case. I don't get confused. I stay confused.

 

[TheDayMan]

Sadly, my time with my Rumble may have come to an end, thought I’d see if anyone has any suggestions first.

Yesterday at practice I flipped on my 200 combo, all was good for about 20 seconds, then it started distorting and cutting out, much like the sound of a dying battery in an active bass, but my bass was in passive mode, so I ruled that out quick. Started switching out all the cables, finally went straight into the amp (probably should have just tried that first ), still the same problem only getting worse. Had one of the guitar players plug into it, gain and volume were both around 9 o’clock so he should have been plenty loud through it, instead it was quiet with a loud hum over it.

I bought the amp new in 2018, so I think I’m outside the warranty period. I don’t really want to pay to get it serviced, and I really don’t want to hassle with shipping it to get it fixed. I have the rumble 112 cab I used with it I can build on, and another amp I can build on, and need to be ready for our first gig out of the pandemic restrictions in 2 weeks, so even if I wanted to go that route I don’t know if it’s the practical solution that being considered.

But if anyone has thoughts about a possible fix, I’d love to hear it!

 

[BBassBassington]

Sadly, my time with my Rumble may have come to an end, thought I’d see if anyone has any suggestions first.

Yesterday at practice I flipped on my 200 combo, all was good for about 20 seconds, then it started distorting and cutting out, much like the sound of a dying battery in an active bass, but my bass was in passive mode, so I ruled that out quick. Started switching out all the cables, finally went straight into the amp (probably should have just tried that first ), still the same problem only getting worse. Had one of the guitar players plug into it, gain and volume were both around 9 o’clock so he should have been plenty loud through it, instead it was quiet with a loud hum over it.

I bought the amp new in 2018, so I think I’m outside the warranty period. I don’t really want to pay to get it serviced, and I really don’t want to hassle with shipping it to get it fixed. I have the rumble 112 cab I used with it I can build on, and another amp I can build on, and need to be ready for our first gig out of the pandemic restrictions in 2 weeks, so even if I wanted to go that route I don’t know if it’s the practical solution that being considered.

But if anyone has thoughts about a possible fix, I’d love to hear it!

That's never a fun experience. I had a powered speaker do that, it was toast sadly.

What other amps do you have to work with? That Rumble 112 is a great little cab, that could be paired with a Rumble 210 and the head of your choice. You'll still get that Rumble feel and look but with added flexibility.

Also if you need time to consider options you could always rent an amp for the gig in 2 weeks. Though it sounds like you may not need to.

 

[TheDayMan]

That's never a fun experience. I had a powered speaker do that, it was toast sadly.

What other amps do you have to work with? That Rumble 112 is a great little cab, that could be paired with a Rumble 210 and the head of your choice. You'll still get that Rumble feel and look but with added flexibility.

Also if you need time to consider options you could always rent an amp for the gig in 2 weeks. Though it sounds like you may not need to.

I recently picked up one of those mini Ampeg svt/210avs. Which I’m enjoying quite a bit. Think the short term play will be getting a second cab for that for now. That amp/cab is really sounding great, but just not as comfortable as my rumble setup that I know (knew) could handle anything I need it for.

And good call, I’ll hang onto the rumble cab and build on it with some time. I’ve always had back up everything outside of my amp, I just lucked out with the timing having stumbled across a good deal on the ampeg I always wanted to try about a month ago.

 

[G-Dog]

I am complete!

That’s guitar center’s 200 on top, but you get the point...

Weight feels right compared to the 200, it’s not too far fetched to think the extra 14 lbs on the shipping weight was accounted for by extra box and wrap alone after seeing how it was packed. I’ll pop the speaker out this evening to be sure anyway. Not that there’s much I can do about it if it’s a replacement...

Sadly, my time with my Rumble may have come to an end, thought I’d see if anyone has any suggestions first.

Yesterday at practice I flipped on my 200 combo, all was good for about 20 seconds, then it started distorting and cutting out, much like the sound of a dying battery in an active bass, but my bass was in passive mode, so I ruled that out quick. Started switching out all the cables, finally went straight into the amp (probably should have just tried that first ), still the same problem only getting worse. Had one of the guitar players plug into it, gain and volume were both around 9 o’clock so he should have been plenty loud through it, instead it was quiet with a loud hum over it.

I bought the amp new in 2018, so I think I’m outside the warranty period. I don’t really want to pay to get it serviced, and I really don’t want to hassle with shipping it to get it fixed. I have the rumble 112 cab I used with it I can build on, and another amp I can build on, and need to be ready for our first gig out of the pandemic restrictions in 2 weeks, so even if I wanted to go that route I don’t know if it’s the practical solution that being considered.

But if anyone has thoughts about a possible fix, I’d love to hear it!

Well, Daymian, first things first. From your photo post overlooked some time ago (for which I humbly apologize), @TheDayMan, you are now member #1372 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome.

Now to the issue at hand: It's probably a long shot but, there's a switch in the FX Return jack that cuts off the preamp signal to the power amp when that jack is plugged in. If that switch becomes corroded it could act like what you describe. The simplest treatment I've heard of is to run a 1/4" plug in-&-out of the FX Return jack several times to knock off some corrosion. Then, if that helps, a very small amount of Deoxit cleaner may help, too.

Fingers crossed, Daymian! Please let us know if that helps.
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[BBassBassington]

I recently picked up one of those mini Ampeg svt/210avs. Which I’m enjoying quite a bit. Think the short term play will be getting a second cab for that for now. That amp/cab is really sounding great, but just not as comfortable as my rumble setup that I know (knew) could handle anything I need it for.

And good call, I’ll hang onto the rumble cab and build on it with some time. I’ve always had back up everything outside of my amp, I just lucked out with the timing having stumbled across a good deal on the ampeg I always wanted to try about a month ago.

I like those cabs, they're super light and I'm clearly a sucker for silver grilles. Best of luck in your amp endeavours! (Also if somewhere in Seattle has them and you want something equally light for those Ampeg cabs you should check out the Traynor Small Block 200 head. It pairs well with the Rumble cabs too.)

 

[TheDayMan]

Well, Daymian, first things first. From your photo post overlooked some time ago (for which I humbly apologize), @TheDayMan, you are now member #1372 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome.

Now to the issue at hand: It's probably a long shot but, there's a switch in the FX Return jack that cuts off the preamp signal to the power amp when that jack is plugged in. If that switch becomes corroded it could act like what you describe. The simplest treatment I've heard of is to run a 1/4" plug in-&-out of the FX Return jack several times to knock off some corrosion. Then, if that helps, a very small amount of Deoxit cleaner may help, too.

Fingers crossed, Daymian! Please let us know if that helps.
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Thought it worked for a minute! But then started fading in and out and distorting again, I’ll keep jabbing the return jack, take it apart and clean it out, then probably time to accept its fate. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

[EatS1stBassist]

Sadly, my time with my Rumble may have come to an end, thought I’d see if anyone has any suggestions first.

Yesterday at practice I flipped on my 200 combo, all was good for about 20 seconds, then it started distorting and cutting out, much like the sound of a dying battery in an active bass, but my bass was in passive mode, so I ruled that out quick. Started switching out all the cables, finally went straight into the amp (probably should have just tried that first ), still the same problem only getting worse. Had one of the guitar players plug into it, gain and volume were both around 9 o’clock so he should have been plenty loud through it, instead it was quiet with a loud hum over it.

I bought the amp new in 2018, so I think I’m outside the warranty period. I don’t really want to pay to get it serviced, and I really don’t want to hassle with shipping it to get it fixed. I have the rumble 112 cab I used with it I can build on, and another amp I can build on, and need to be ready for our first gig out of the pandemic restrictions in 2 weeks, so even if I wanted to go that route I don’t know if it’s the practical solution that being considered.

But if anyone has thoughts about a possible fix, I’d love to hear it!

You didn’t leave a cable dangling from the effects loop?

 

[TheDayMan]

You didn’t leave a cable dangling from the effects loop?

Nah. I switched out everything, tried replugging everything, never use the effects loop.

 

[GonePlaid]

Nah. I switched out everything, tried replugging everything, never use the effects loop.

I had a similar problem with my 2000 Bassman 25. Occasional multiple repluggings cleared it up.

 

[TheDayMan]

My new thought is converting it to a cab, which at first glance is something I’m not up for, I saw where it was discussed on here, and found the video of that discussion, but seems like more of an outline where I’ll need some step by step direction, anyone know of any videos or something with more detailed description out there?

Seems like a waste, it’s now a perfectly good cab needing to be tapped into.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Thought it worked for a minute! But then started fading in and out and distorting again, I’ll keep jabbing the return jack, take it apart and clean it out, then probably time to accept its fate. Thanks for the suggestion!

The jack may just need replacing.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I seldom get to play my R100 except for at home practice, but last night we couldn't rehearse at church (stage is a mess at the moment) so we practiced at the leader's home. Several people in a small but open room- 2 guitars, one piano, a violin (all of them acoustic), and me. The guitar & piano players all sing. Lots of open space around us, lots of reflective surfaces. I set my amp on a table a few feet outside the room everyone else was in, and stood in the hallway to play. I like this amp at home; I absolutely loved it here. The volume started at 8 o'clock but moved to 9 when things got loud.

(I whacked my Thunderbird VP's headstock against a couple of things while there. It did not pop off and threaten anyone. Imagine my disappointment. 8^)

 

[G-Dog]

Thought it worked for a minute! But then started fading in and out and distorting again, I’ll keep jabbing the return jack, take it apart and clean it out, then probably time to accept its fate. Thanks for the suggestion!

Hey, Daymian! Try just hooking an instrument cable from the FX Send to the FX Return. If that appears to fix it, then it is a corroded or faulty switch in the FX Return.

Please try this and advise us how it goes!
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[GonePlaid]

I seldom get to play my R100 except for at home practice, but last night we couldn't rehearse at church (stage is a mess at the moment) so we practiced at the leader's home. Several people in a small but open room- 2 guitars, one piano, a violin (all of them acoustic), and me. The guitar & piano players all sing. Lots of open space around us, lots of reflective surfaces. I set my amp on a table a few feet outside the room everyone else was in, and stood in the hallway to play. I like this amp at home; I absolutely loved it here. The volume started at 8 o'clock but moved to 9 when things got loud.

(I whacked my Thunderbird VP's headstock against a couple of things while there. It did not pop off and threaten anyone. Imagine my disappointment. 8^)

Must be defective.
What did you 'whack'? I didn't see a drummer mentioned.

 

[kkaarrll]

how many of you play guitar or keyboard or electronic drum through your rumble heads/combos? any problems?

 

[GonePlaid]

how many of you play guitar or keyboard or electronic drum through your rumble heads/combos? any problems?

I have hooked up my POS electric piano into my 200c at the house. Biggest problem was my POS playing. Mucho rust.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Must be defective.
What did you 'whack'? I didn't see a drummer mentioned.

A wooden table, A wall corner. No drummer this week.

 

[G-Dog]

how many of you play guitar or keyboard or electronic drum through your rumble heads/combos? any problems?

Well, hi, there, karl. Nice to hear from you again, after almost 4 years.

I sometimes play guitar thru one, or another, of my bass amps at home. I find they give a fuller, warmer tone than my guitar amps, when I'm going for that. I've not experienced any problems at all doing that, and wouldn't expect any.

I've also been meaning to hook up some electronic drums I've been storing for a friend for quite some time. But it hasn't happened yet. I would expect some problems doing that since A) I don’t know how to hook up electronic drums; and 2) I don’t know how to play drums, electronic or otherwise!

How about you, karl? Are doing, or considering doing this? What's going on?
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