Update: after tonight, I think I'll try the R40 next week(next gig there). With the 100 in the gigmobile-in case.
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Sounds like a good plan. i don't know how big your VFW venue is, but if it's like the VFWs I've been in, the R40 will do just fine.
Fairly good size room, but low ceiling. I had the 100 Gain~10, Volume same.
That is generally how I set the R40 for most of the gigs I've used it at -- gain around 10, volume at about 11. If you give it a shot next time, let us know how it went. How many guitars in your band, and do you have a keyboard player?
Auditioned for a new band some weeks ago.
Two guitars and keys where looking for a bassist and a drummer. I went there with my Thunderbird and R100v3. I’ve been told they still had’nt found a drummer, so I figured it will be more than enough (and the 100 is the smallest combo I own).
Came to the audtition, and it turned out there was a new drummer too…
Was a little worried my 100 would not keep up with the two guitars, keyboard and full acoustic drumset. Did not need to worry, worked fine, and everybody could hear me without a problem. The guys did not play too loud either, and the drummer has a nice light touch.
Yes, I got the job, and yes, took my 100 to the following rehearsals too.
Two guitars and keys where looking for a bassist and a drummer. I went there with my Thunderbird and R100v3. I’ve been told they still had’nt found a drummer, so I figured it will be more than enough (and the 100 is the smallest combo I own).
Came to the audtition, and it turned out there was a new drummer too…
Was a little worried my 100 would not keep up with the two guitars, keyboard and full acoustic drumset. Did not need to worry, worked fine, and everybody could hear me without a problem. The guys did not play too loud either, and the drummer has a nice light touch.
Yes, I got the job, and yes, took my 100 to the following rehearsals too.
I had an audition yesterday (was offered the job, but probably not taking it). Drummer, 2 guitarists plus me. Full PA set up in the rehearsal space. Sound guy ran XLR out from my Stage 800 to the PA, but not into the monitors. Had a hard time hearing myself (didn't have my amp stand - that probably would have helped) and had to keep turning up the amp volume. Eventually landed on about 11 o'clock. Not sure how it sounded in front of the PA. If I decide to go back a second time, I'll get out in front of the PA and take a listen.
I was playing around in the studio today. I got the Rumble 100 set up for recording and the drums. After I was happy with it all, I thought I'd give the Line Out on the Rumble a try. It only verified what I already believed. There really is no substitute for miking the amp with a Shure SM57. The line out sounded great, but for recording, the SM57 is truly a lot better. If I hadn't heard the difference, I'd be 100% satisfied with the Line Out, but it just can't capture the amazing tone of the Rumble played through its speaker. With the Shure mic, the sound in the room and the sound through my monitor headphones is almost identical. Learning to record everything is a lot of fun.
Officially the band is 2 guitars, drums, and bass(see pic below-@ VFW). However, due to lack of space or money (clubs tell you their budget, take it or not), we sometimes go in with 3. Drummer-always-then 1 guitar and bass. One of the guitarists(Ron)-the one closest to the camera-plays bass, so we alternate who's off for trio gigs. The other guitarist(Bruce)is the 'stronger' of the 2-readily acknowledged by Ron-and Bruce also knows more songs. Bruce, Ron, and I sing leads-we alternate on a gig-and Tom(drummer)sings some harmony. We do sometimes go as 3 with Ron, Tom, and me, but we miss a lotta good material that way. In general, we don't do each others songs. There is some overlap but Bruce knows a pot full of songs that Ron and I don't and we'd need lyric sheets to try to do them.
There are 2 places we play that have a bit more room, but most are smaller than this stage. At least this VFW has a(low)stage. Many places just have a band "area".
Port St. Lucie, FL, VFW. [I felt like playing the EB-0 that night]
I would think the R40 would do just fine, but let us know after you've done it.
The tube amps I built, and many of those I modded or rebuilt, got line out jacks off the speaker output. No matter how good they sounded, nothing ever sounded as good as a mic'd cab (or a mix of the two). Still true of everything else I've heard, even with the best cab sims.
A little clarification: why "Drummer-always"? He books most of the gigs. And is the only 'original' member.
I just got a 57 and am going to start learning how to record. Do you ever blend the mic and di?
That is exactly what I did last time. It sounds great. They complimented each other well. The 57 sounded like the speaker and the DI had a more percussive tone. I only blended a little of the Line Out in though. I am still learning also.
Ideally, record both at their best volume so you can play around with the mix. Playback with just the bass at least once, DI in one ear, mic'd cab in the other. This will help you pick, and you might find you want different mixes at different points in the song.
Thanks. I feel I now found MY BAND! Playing all my old favorites, Cream, Beatles, Clapton, Doors , Byrds, Cocker, … , well, you get the idea
Big thing for me is also the low volume, do not need any earplugs with these guys.
Looking forward to next rehearsal on Wednesday. We have plans for first gig in April, lets see how it goes.
Thanks. I feel I now found MY BAND! Playing all my old favorites, Cream, Beatles, Clapton, Doors , Byrds, Cocker, … , well, you get the idea
Big thing for me is also the low volume, do not need any earplugs with these guys.
Looking forward to next rehearsal on Wednesday. We have plans for first gig in April, lets see how it goes.
Although it might look backwards to some, this has always been my settings for the Rumble 100. Then I back the tone off just a little on the bass. It gives me the option of bringing the treble back in on the bass if I want to, but I rarely do. For a smoother tone, I'll roll off the tone on the bass even more. This has worked with my Precision for a long time, and now that I am playing my Musicmaster with the red Lace Sensor more, I find it works great for that also. For different venues, the knobs might get moved a little, but this is where I start. The gain and master are just set for recording levels.
Quite some time back, according to the Rumble Club Wiki, someone found that settings of B-10, L-2, H-2, T-10 were pretty close to 'flat'. That's what I start with and tweak to the room.(I don't like a lot of treble-my preference)In a 'boomy' room, I might push the Bright button on for presence. The Vintage is always on/in.
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