I've still got my two R40s, if we're still on the survey thing. They serve my needs completely. Amp-only or amp-into-house or PA, they do a great job for me.
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How are you connect the two amps?
According to my (pretty thorough) experiments with my two amps a few months ago, my 200 is almost exactly 6dB louder than my 100 at when using the Effects Send & Return connections, regardless of which amp is master or slave. That is a quite noticeable difference.
The only way to equalize the volume would be to connect the amps using the Send output of one amp into the main input of the second amp.
But that's asking for trouble, risking damaging the 100 if you get carried away!
Currently three Rumbles:
Studio 40 for home practice and effects experimentation.
Rumble 100C for home practice and lower volume rehearsals and gigs.
Rumble 800C for higher volume rehearsals and gigs, or when just wanting a fuller sound. It's also good for home practice, especially in the 100-watt mode.
Studio 40 for home practice and effects experimentation.
Rumble 100C for home practice and lower volume rehearsals and gigs.
Rumble 800C for higher volume rehearsals and gigs, or when just wanting a fuller sound. It's also good for home practice, especially in the 100-watt mode.
One could always use a splitter box between the bass and the amps to go directly into each amp's instrument input. Input jumpering writ large. But if one is happy with the sound it's unnecessary.
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Per a Rumble Talk with input from a Fender insider: "Technically you can run the SEND to the second amp INPUT (there is no risk of damage), but the line level signal at the SEND may overdrive the input stage so you will need to reduce the GAIN on the second amp. And re-amping the signal this way will allow one to use the second preamp controls, but may not produce the desired results so it is up to the individual."
R100v3. One.
Got a local deal 5 minutes ago from a fellow bassist who wants moooore power (but less than his Bassman fullstack, so he's looking for an R200-500-800) for half the new price of a R100v3.
Wanted this for years!
So will be 2xR100. Soon!
(damn I also got a new cover to be made
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I'm just using the R100 effects send to the R200 return. The Basslite is around 5 db more efficient than the stock speaker, so maybe that helps with the disparity. I haven't really noticed a difference in volume, but the two amps sound so different it would be hard to compare. The 200 is definitely dominant with some important clarity and definition provided by the 100. To my ear, they sound amazing together.
I did that with my stock(except for batting)100>200c here at the house and once on a gig-for one set. Great sound; too much for any place we play.
You replaced the stock speaker in the R200 with the Basslite, correct? And the Basslite is 5dB more efficient than the stock speaker?
Wow, I’m surprised that you can even hear the R100! Your R200 must be a monster…
My (stock) R200 is ALREADY 6dB louder than my R100 with equal input signals. Verified by running the same test signals into the Return inputs on both amps.
The volume difference between the two amps is entirely due to their power module/speaker/cabinet design.
The preamps of both amps are identical in every respect.
No, the R100 got the Basslite. I'm really happy with the 200 just the way it is.
Pair made in heaven!
With a free stock cover!
With a free stock cover!
Alright, it's not a Rumble, but it will likely be used with my R115 & 210 V3 cabs:
It will be a '64 Fender AA864 Blackface Bassman. It has been four years, this month, since I last built a tube amp. I felt it was time to build one again.
It will be a '64 Fender AA864 Blackface Bassman. It has been four years, this month, since I last built a tube amp. I felt it was time to build one again.
Number hunting - single Rumble 800 here
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Hey fellow Rumblers! I have a rumble 40. I had asked about this problem in the general amp forum and was referred to this page. Goal: Get line out signal from my rumble 40 into my Focusrite 2i2 interface so that I can play my bass and run a backing track in my PC all while listening to the two in my headphones coming out of the interface.
I have already discovered that the only way to shut off the Rumble speaker and still have a line out signal to the interface is by plugghing somethin into the headphone jack on the back of the Rumble. Learned that trick.
Now don't know how to hear the bass from the Rumble line out and a backing track from the PC through interface headphones and no sound on my studio monitors. I must be missing a critical step.
I have already discovered that the only way to shut off the Rumble speaker and still have a line out signal to the interface is by plugghing somethin into the headphone jack on the back of the Rumble. Learned that trick.
Now don't know how to hear the bass from the Rumble line out and a backing track from the PC through interface headphones and no sound on my studio monitors. I must be missing a critical step.
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Can any of our Focusrite 2i2 interface Rumblers please help here?
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Not completely clear on your setup, but if I understand correctly....
- XLR from Rumble to the 2i2 nterface.
- Put something in the headphone jack to silence the R40 speaker.
- Set the PC audio out device to the 2i2. (This should turn off the studio monitors I'm assuming you have plugged into the PC.)
- Plug headphone into 2i2, turn on direct monitor button.
IIRC, you should hear the audio from the PC and the input from the R40 mixed in the 2i2.
Not clear whether you're also recording? If not, I would just get a 3.5 to 3.5 cable and plug into the aux-in on the R40 from the PC, and plug headphones into the R40 as well. Don't even use the interface.
- XLR from Rumble to the 2i2 nterface.
- Put something in the headphone jack to silence the R40 speaker.
- Set the PC audio out device to the 2i2. (This should turn off the studio monitors I'm assuming you have plugged into the PC.)
- Plug headphone into 2i2, turn on direct monitor button.
IIRC, you should hear the audio from the PC and the input from the R40 mixed in the 2i2.
Not clear whether you're also recording? If not, I would just get a 3.5 to 3.5 cable and plug into the aux-in on the R40 from the PC, and plug headphones into the R40 as well. Don't even use the interface.
Helpful thoughts. The PC is set to put the audio output of the PC back out through the interface, but then goes out to the studio monitors FROM the interface itself. The interface handles inputs into the computer and handles output from the computer to the monitors.
If I do the reverse way like you might be suggesting, I get your instructions, but not sure how I would get the PC audio out of the PC to go into the aux-in on the back of the rumble since everything is set up to go in and out of the Focusrite interface. The interface is specifically designed to have the L and R channels of audio go out of the back of the unit directly to the monitors and uses 1/4" (from the interface) to XLR (back of the monitors) cables for this.
If you still want to use the 2i2, you can unplug the monitors or turn their volume to zero.
If not using the 2i2… The PC has controls to choose which audio output should receive sounds. It’s a rare PC that does not have a headphone/line out jack. Plug a cable from that to the R40 aux-in jack, and change the PC audio output to that headphone out.
