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Fender Rumble Club

#60,021
Gopherbassist said:
If I were in your position I'd be deciding between the 100 and the Studio 40. Would the modeling options be useful to you?
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I already have Ableton and Logic Pro for Mac which has modeling plugins so not sure if I need an amp with it.
Is the modeling better than DAW stuff? I bought one of those Mustang Micro Plus which I love for practicing on the couch or outside but tend to just use a vanilla preamp sound for practice. It also came with the Fender studio app which I think has a great amp sim but does add some latency.

How is the latency on the digital amp? My latency through my interface into my Mac is about 7ms which isn’t very noticeable but don’t know if adding more latency would drive me crazy or not.
 
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#60,022
John Stephen said:
In my experience the 40 handles small venues just fine. I've got the regular 40, not the studio version. Also, though off-topic, which audio interface do you use for recording?
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I have 4 things I can interface through.
Mackie Pro FXv3. Love it. 2 in 4 out and routing options.
Mackie Producer. 2 in 2 out. Smaller and more portable than the Pro FX. Less routing options.
Roland SP 404mk2 fun sampler instrument, lots of built in toys and effects, limited choices for sampler rates.
Mustang Micro Plus, it’s really more of a practice tool, too much latency to use as a pro interface IMO.
 
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John Stephen said:
Wow, that's a lot of options. Amongst all those inputs, I gather at least one of them is a line-level input, so you can XLR your amp into the audio interface. My audio interface only has mic-level and instrument-level inputs.
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The ProFX has 2 XLR/TRS combi jacks, a level dual TRS, and 3.5mm stereo input.
It’s a great interface and can be used just as a mixer when needed.
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AK Bass Guy said:
I already have Ableton and Logic Pro for Mac which has modeling plugins so not sure if I need an amp with it.
Is the modeling better than DAW stuff? I bought one of those Mustang Micro Plus which I love for practicing on the couch or outside but tend to just use a vanilla preamp sound for practice. It also came with the Fender studio app which I think has a great amp sim but does add some latency.

How is the latency on the digital amp? My latency through my interface into my Mac is about 7ms which isn’t very noticeable but don’t know if adding more latency would drive me crazy or not.
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I have Ableton and Logic Pro. I have a gazillion plug-ins. For my tastes, the Two Notes’ Genome is my favorite (you can combine a Bassman and an SVT), followed by Plug-in Alliance’s B15N, and then Ampeg’s Suite. I love the Bergantino IRs from Celestion and the Rumble 500 IR from Two Notes. I think there are demo versions of the plug-ins. You can try before you buy. The plug-ins go on sale in cycles. Wait for a sale, if you are value-conscious. I hope that is helpful.
 
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AK Bass Guy said:
Nice, some stuff still just works like it did ‘back in the day’.
Haven’t bought an actual bass amp in a long time.
Definitely going to get the Rumble 100 now. Will be nice to actually vibrate some real air while practicing or recording.
Headphones are hard to vibe to all the time.
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Let the thread know when you get it. @G-Dog loves handing out nicknames and numbers.
 
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AK Bass Guy said:
Nice, some stuff still just works like it did ‘back in the day’.
Haven’t bought an actual bass amp in a long time.
Definitely going to get the Rumble 100 now. Will be nice to actually vibrate some real air while practicing or recording.
Headphones are hard to vibe to all the time.
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You’ll be surprised at how much air a Rumble 100 can move. When I crank mine in my basement studio, I can feel the concrete floor vibrating.
 
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John D Harris said:
I installed a Celestion BN12-300S (4) driver replacing the stock 4 Ohm driver.

Observations so far in a bit over a day's worth of playing with it:

Even though it still seems like a fairly bright driver, the upper mids are not nearly as harsh sounding to my ears as the stock driver.
It is more efficient than the stock driver.
It has at least as good a low end (down to low 'B') as the stock driver, possibly better at higher volumes.

I have run my Cort B5 Element into the Instrument Input, set the combo's EQ fairly flat and then used my B5's onboard preamp to EQ a very good tone.
I have run the B5 in passive mode into my Two Notes Opus and then into the combo's FX Return and EQ'ed a killer tone using the Opus' processing.
I have run the B5 in passive mode into my Two Notes Opus and then into the combo's Instrument Input and EQ'ed a killer tone using the Opus' processing.

I greatly prefer the Opus generated tones into the R100c without any Cab Sim - which makes sense - less muddling up the tone.
I created 6 different presets so far - two for each of the above routing options (one Fender Showman type Preamp setting and one Fender Bassman type Preamp setting), none using anything than the Preamp types and the Custom 5-band parametric EQ + HPF & LPF (no Power Amp model).

[I also created two Presets on the Opus similar to the above but intended for a post EQ / post processing DI out signal, tweaked using my Sennheiser Headphones alone.]

All of that is to say, I highly recommend the Celestion BN12-300S (4) for anyone who has a 4 Ohm version of the newer R100 combos.

After all of this, in hindsight (20/20 right), I'd have saved up and bought a good quality active PA cab or something like the GRBass Active cabinets.
I still do really like the R100c, especially the fact that it is really easy for me to move around with my bad back and the Opus can make it sound like a thousand dollar rig (at least in that neighborhood)!
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Well, I finally put the set of Dunlop SS Flats on my Cort B5 Element.

I was too late in the day to crank up my R100c, but ran the B5 through my Opus into my headphones, the new strings have much less harshness and over-the-top brightness compared to the EB Cobalt Flats.

That gives me even more hope that, combined with the new driver change, the R100c may be sounding even more outstanding used with the Opus as well as running the B5 straight in.

I will bang on it tomorrow and report back!
 
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John D Harris said:
Well, I finally put the set of Dunlop SS Flats on my Cort B5 Element.

I was too late in the day to crank up my R100c, but ran the B5 through my Opus into my headphones, the new strings have much less harshness and over-the-top brightness compared to the EB Cobalt Flats.

That gives me even more hope that, combined with the new driver change, the R100c may be sounding even more outstanding used with the Opus as well as running the B5 straight in.

I will bang on it tomorrow and report back!
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I've swapped the driver in one of my 8 ohm r100s to a basslite one lately.
It has significantly more volume (at the same settings) and is significantly brighter in the upper mids (sounds like somewhere in the 2k-4k range to my ears).

I could do a loop and/or a range sweep and ABY the 2 units, but would need time which I don't really got much lately.

Yes, the 8ohm r100 has a driver that is generally voiced bass/low-mid heavy.

I'd say with a little EQ-ing, they could be set close enough.
 
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dORSY said:
I've swapped the driver in one of my 8 ohm r100s to a basslite one lately.
It has significantly more volume (at the same settings) and is significantly brighter in the upper mids (sounds like somewhere in the 2k-4k range to my ears).

I could do a loop and/or a range sweep and ABY the 2 units, but would need time which I don't really got much lately.

Yes, the 8ohm r100 has a driver that is generally voiced bass/low-mid heavy.

I'd say with a little EQ-ing, they could be set close enough.
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I was surprised by that and ended up turning the upper mids way down after putting in a Basslite in my R100. It's a serious boost over the stock speaker. Would probably work well for someone looking for a brighter modern tone, but definitely not what you want for old school.
 
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ratdoc said:
I was surprised by that and ended up turning the upper mids way down after putting in a Basslite in my R100. It's a serious boost over the stock speaker. Would probably work well for someone looking for a brighter modern tone, but definitely not what you want for old school.
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I think this explains half of the story, question would be the r100's stock speaker's curve:
(the hard part is that the Rumble EQ's high mid is well below this bump HIGH-MID: ±12dB @ 1.2kHz, maybe the vintage button could help :))

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