Fender Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800

[Dookieshoes]

I saw these guys in the wild over the weekend, thought I'd share. I wanted the Bassman RI so bad...

 

[iagtrplyr]

Hey, a Bronco 40. Was it a repair or for sale?

And I bet ya the pack of smokes would be thrown in with the purchase of that Bassman!

 

[Dookieshoes]

The Bronco was for sale $250. This store typically has a lot of NOS. No telling if it's been played to death on the floor. I think they had two or 3

 

[iagtrplyr]

The Bronco was for sale $250. This store typically has a lot of NOS. No telling if it's been played to death on the floor. I think they had two or 3

I found an excellent-conditioned used Studio 40 for $299 at GC. I'd rather have that one instead.

 

[Dookieshoes]

I found an excellent-conditioned used Studio 40 for $299 at GC. I'd rather have that one instead.

Understandable, some folks fanboy over older stuff. I did over the Bassman. I've lusted for one for years. I would've played a while had the store not been closing soon. My Jag bass sounded buttery through it. If it's still there next time, I may play some guitars through it.

 

[Dookieshoes]

Yep. Sadly I returned a bass two times that had cosmetic QC issues, non leveled frets and an S curve in the neck (each time). The second one had all protective films but couldn't be setup to specs. Finally I received one that looked alright, still had fret/ neck issues and you can tell someone owned it for a while as the truss rod screw has definitely been used prior to me owning it and all protective film was gone, but least I can manage this one to get back to specs. Quite a shame for such an expensive bass.

I am not one to bash on all Guitar Center locations, as I reckon they are made of different people who care differently about their jobs.Their central inventory system is as much of a plague as it is a great thing. I mean, back when I bought my first bass, I didn't a choice of colors, let alone models. Orders were called "special order".
I would have never thought of returning a bass that had fret buzz out of the box either, so I must appreciate their return policy, but I think that policy also generated this behavior from GC.
Really my only gripe with GC is that while they are maintaining retail locations, the service is little over the one I would get from an eCommerce dealer.

@Dookieshoes , the fact I was having the issue with the amp's BT off led me to think we may have different issues, but thanks!

You are a far more patient man than I. My Squier VI had a couple cosmetic flaws when I got it. A scratch under the clear coat on the neck binding and what looked like a paint chip in the curve below the neck pocket. But at the time the Vintage modified VI stock was cleared out, every website quit selling them. My shop called and ordered one of the last 3 in the (Corona, Can. I believe it was) inventory. (I'd had waited if I knew they were going to release the slightly more period correct Classic Vibe.) I accepted the blemishes, but for a premium instrument.. they'd had made that right. Dookie pretends to work too hard for his money.

With the amp. I keep hoping it's some software issue and they'll patch them for folks. Knock on wood though, I haven't experienced it recently on either of my amps.

Keep us posted on your replacement.

 

[Cyborg]

Dang, I just realized that I've had my Stage 800 for six months. Absolutely a killer amp!

Ironically, this afternoon I started to create a couple of my own settings based on the Basic KGB-800 and Deep Rumble. Those are my two go to settings and I'll usually tweak it manually depending on the situation and not overwrite the settings. I decided that should start working on my own patches. HAHA

Here's my question, what's the difference in using the compression on the amp settings (which I think is on every one of them whether it's exists on the actual amp or not) and using the Simple Compression "pedal" for my compressor. In the case of the Deep Rumble, it uses both and I don't think my tone sounds too squashed from double compression.

Second is there a quicker or more efficient way to jump from setting #9 to #99 without 90 knob turn ticks?

Third, for example on the Rumble v3, if I turn the physical middle tone knob it moves the high-mid on the digital display. This is fine and not really a biggie but if I wanted the middle knob to control the low-mid instead or both mids is this possible?

Sorry if these are easy questions that should be obvious or have been answered previously.

 

[Dookieshoes]

Dang, I just realized that I've had my Stage 800 for six months. Absolutely a killer amp!

Ironically, this afternoon I started to create a couple of my own settings based on the Basic KGB-800 and Deep Rumble. Those are my two go to settings and I'll usually tweak it manually depending on the situation and not overwrite the settings. I decided that should start working on my own patches. HAHA

Here's my question, what's the difference in using the compression on the amp settings (which I think is on every one of them whether it's exists on the actual amp or not) and using the Simple Compression "pedal" for my compressor. In the case of the Deep Rumble, it uses both and I don't think my tone sounds too squashed from double compression.

Second is there a quicker or more efficient way to jump from setting #9 to #99 without 90 knob turn ticks?

Third, for example on the Rumble v3, if I turn the physical middle tone knob it moves the high-mid on the digital display. This is fine and not really a biggie but if I wanted the middle knob to control the low-mid instead or both mids is this possible?

Sorry if these are easy questions that should be obvious or have been answered previously.

have you tried the tone app any?

Most of the amp presets do have a compression setting even if the compressor pedals aren't in the signal chain. You may have to turn the in amp compression on manually. I haven't really taken note of how many presets that have compressor pedals also have the amp compression on. It would be nice if there were all the physical mid knobs. They're accessible via the app. The app also is pretty quick for moving through presets without wearing out the moving parts of your amp.

I suppose it would also help the make playlists of your frequently used presets. I copy my most used ones and tweak those to keep my stock ones unmolesticated.

 

[Dookieshoes]

have you tried the tone app any?

Most of the amp presets do have a compression setting even if the compressor pedals aren't in the signal chain. You may have to turn the in amp compression on manually. The simple comp, is just a kinda set it and forget it, where the other can get more intricate (Dookie ain't got that kinda time) I haven't really taken note of how many presets that have compressor pedals also have the amp compression on. It would be nice if there were all the physical mid knobs. They're accessible via the app. The app also is pretty quick for moving through presets without wearing out the moving parts of your amp.

I suppose it would also help the make playlists of your frequently used presets. I copy my most used ones and tweak those to keep my stock ones unmolesticated.

 

[iagtrplyr]

Dang, I just realized that I've had my Stage 800 for six months. Absolutely a killer amp!

Ironically, this afternoon I started to create a couple of my own settings based on the Basic KGB-800 and Deep Rumble. Those are my two go to settings and I'll usually tweak it manually depending on the situation and not overwrite the settings. I decided that should start working on my own patches. HAHA

Here's my question, what's the difference in using the compression on the amp settings (which I think is on every one of them whether it's exists on the actual amp or not) and using the Simple Compression "pedal" for my compressor. In the case of the Deep Rumble, it uses both and I don't think my tone sounds too squashed from double compression.

Second is there a quicker or more efficient way to jump from setting #9 to #99 without 90 knob turn ticks?

Third, for example on the Rumble v3, if I turn the physical middle tone knob it moves the high-mid on the digital display. This is fine and not really a biggie but if I wanted the middle knob to control the low-mid instead or both mids is this possible?

Sorry if these are easy questions that should be obvious or have been answered previously.

Good points by Dookie. Learn to use the phone app and it will make your modeling amp time much easier. You can quickly shuffle through the presets, can set individual parameters, and do everything except set the mater volume. Give it a try if you haven’t already.

 

[Droopy_TX]

...It would be nice if there were all the physical mid knobs. They're accessible via the app...

@Dookieshoes,
Check out this post where I describe how you can use the physical tone knobs, plus the encoder knob, to access four tone settings simultaneously. It makes it very much like having all the knobs of the amp...

All, just a follow-up on this statement I made in the general Rumble Club thread...

I was thinking further about my approach to editing settings on the Rumble Stage 800 using the CONTROLS layer, and I want offer this hybrid approach:

As I mentioned, the physical BASS, MIDDLE, and TREBLE knobs map to their corresponding settings within the underlying amp model (with the Rumble V3 mapping MID to its LO MID). You can use the physical knobs to edit those settings simultaneously to editing settings in the CONTROLS layer with the ENCODER knob.

So, let's say you have a preset in which you want to tweak four settings; for example: the Rumble V3's BASS, LO MID, HI MID, and TREBLE, or the KGB-800's BASS, MID, MID FREQ, and TREBLE.

In these instances, you can go into EDIT mode in the CONTROLS layer, and select the "fourth" setting with the ENCODER for editing, i.e. the Rumble V3's HI MID, or the KGB-800's MID FREQ.

Now, you have four physical knobs with which you can tweak these four settings simultaneously. This makes it very much like tweaking the tone on an analog amp.

Apologies if this was already painfully obvious, but it escaped me for a while.

 

[Cyborg]

have you tried the tone app any?

Most of the amp presets do have a compression setting even if the compressor pedals aren't in the signal chain. You may have to turn the in amp compression on manually. I haven't really taken note of how many presets that have compressor pedals also have the amp compression on. It would be nice if there were all the physical mid knobs. They're accessible via the app. The app also is pretty quick for moving through presets without wearing out the moving parts of your amp.

I suppose it would also help the make playlists of your frequently used presets. I copy my most used ones and tweak those to keep my stock ones unmolesticated.

Nope, I'm definitely not using the amp to it's fullest potential. I literally use 3-4 presets and just tweak them manually as-needed. All of my main presets I use have little FX in them by default, so I usually just use the actual knobs.

I will download the app and look into it. Also, I didn't think about the setlist option. As I said, I'm really not using the bells and whistles of the amp but I'm starting to venture into it.

Thanks again!

 

[Cyborg]

@Dookieshoes,
Check out this post where I describe how you can use the physical tone knobs, plus the encoder knob, to access four tone settings simultaneously. It makes it very much like having all the knobs of the amp...

I'm going to look into this!

 

[G-Dog]

... ... Second is there a quicker or more efficient way to jump from setting #9 to #99 without 90 knob turn ticks? ... ...

Uh, ... there's also, like, that footswitch thing that came with your Stage 800, right? And you can, like, ... ya know, . . . set some Quick Access, or QA, buttons for the presets that you use a lot, an' stuff, so that just one button stomp gets you there, ... ya know, . . . if you want, that is. 'Cause, ya know, . . . .
.

 

[Cyborg]

Uh, ... there's also, like, that footswitch thing that came with your Stage 800, right? And you can, like, ... ya know, . . . set some Quick Access, or QA, buttons for the presets that you use a lot, an' stuff, so that just one button stomp gets you there, ... ya know, . . . if you want, that is. 'Cause, ya know, . . . .
.

I should've been clearer on the specifics, LOL.

Yeah, no problem with or using the footswitch. I was just curious from the menu directly. It's not a big deal. I just set my presets to 199, 198, etc. so I can go back to them easy enough and I only have maybe 4 right now but it will be more. I was just curious if fill the banks up (HAHAHA) with enough presets if there is a magic touch/button to jump by 10 settings etc.

 

[G-Dog]

... ... no problem with or using the footswitch. ... .... I just set my presets to 199, 198, etc. so I can go back to them easy enough and I only have maybe 4 right now ... ... if there is a magic touch/button to jump by 10 settings etc.

Well, like, . . . . ya know, . . . . in Presets Mode that footswitch thing can go up or down in banks of three presets per bank with a 2-button stomp, like, ... , an' all . . . So, . . . . there's that, like ...
.

 

[Dookieshoes]

I use mine daily, I haven't mastered it yet. But the looper is Handy. I've gotta do some spring cleaning on my presets. I may move them around and organize them.

I revisited the basic Monster last night and I gotta say that with a little mid tweaking, it sounds remarkably close to my bass Big Muff pedal that I love with the dry/wet setting. I'm gonna copy the preset with the gain lowered to alternate between using the footswitch since controlling the gain via switch isn't possible.

I'm trying to get everything set up before Saturday, I'm trying out for. Well, I'm on standby if this other bass player doesn't show.

Is anyone tempted to buy the new 7 button switch whenever the GTX drops? Looks like the buttons are still pretty close together.

 

[G-Dog]

... ... I'm trying to get everything set up before Saturday, I'm trying out for. Well, I'm on standby if this other bass player doesn't show.

Is anyone tempted to buy the new 7 button switch whenever the GTX drops? Looks like the buttons are still pretty close together.

I see the the new 7-botton footswitch has individual bank up & down buttons, instead having to hit 2-buttons just right on the 4-button footswitch. If there are many other such improvements it could be worth the investment. I don't see a manual yet, to read about it, but I'm eager to find out.
.

 

[Linnin]

I Rumbled at 3 am (0300 hours for us military types) this morning. LOUD (with headphones). Great Joy.

 

[Dookieshoes]

I Rumbled at 3 am (0300 hours for us military types) this morning. LOUD (with headphones). Great Joy.

Those are rookie numbers.. you gotta pump those numbers up!

I was rumbling to Black Sabbath at 5 am the other night. Beats tossing and turning trying to fight myself to sleep.