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Fender Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800

Here in Madrid, Spain, I was able to update the firmware (to 3.x) on my Mustang GT but not my Rumble Studio 40 (on the same wifi connection). "New updates not available" was the message and the Rumble was still on firmware 2.x after several attempts.

I fixed this with the "full firmware update" mentioned here: Invalid Link Removed

Rumble now updated to 3.x !
 
My experience so far:
  • First attempt to upgrade failed. It said to retry or contact support.
  • I retried and it completed successfully.
  • All of my custom presets are still in place.
  • The new Tone app connected to my amp initially and ran through refresh process. However, it still shows the default presets in the app, even though I have confirmed my custom presets are what are in the amp.
  • Now I am having problems reconnecting the app to the amp.
On a positive note, I like the overall look of the new Tone app.
 
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Here in Madrid, Spain, I was able to update the firmware (to 3.x) on my Mustang GT but not my Rumble Studio 40 (on the same wifi connection). "New updates not available" was the message and the Rumble was still on firmware 2.x after several attempts.

I fixed this with the "full firmware update" mentioned here: Invalid Link Removed

Rumble now updated to 3.x !

Hey there, drnct. Take a picture of that bad boy Studio 40 and post it to the Combo Club’s page. I’ll return the favor by giving you an exclusive membership number. Best part, it’s anti-viral! Enjoy your combo. :hyper:
 
Here in Madrid, Spain, I was able to update the firmware (to 3.x) on my Mustang GT but not my Rumble Studio 40 (on the same wifi connection). "New updates not available" was the message and the Rumble was still on firmware 2.x after several attempts.

I fixed this with the "full firmware update" mentioned here: Fender Rumble Club

Rumble now updated to 3.x !

Hey there, drnct. Take a picture of that bad boy Studio 40 and post it to the Combo Club’s page. I’ll return the favor by giving you an exclusive membership number. Best part, it’s anti-viral! Enjoy your combo. :hyper:


Likewise, drnct, show that same pic in the Fender Rumble Club and join us there, as well. ;)
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How long did it take your amp to update? Mine has said that it's 'downloading the update' for about 10 minutes.
It depends on your Internet connection. I have a standard cable/fiber connection. Probably took about 4-5 mins for the regular update.

If you run the "full restore" update, it takes longer because it is also downloading the default presets.
I did not have to do a full restore. My first attempt showed an actual failure message after a couple minutes.

EDIT: I blame all those GT/GTX 6-stringers for clogging the bandwidth. ;)
 
OK, here's an update regarding my experience with the new Tone 3.0 app.

Regarding app connectivity:
The app connection issue I mentioned earlier appears to be localized to my iOS device (iPhone 8, iOS 13.3.1). I have an Android tablet (Galaxy Tab E 8, Android 7.1.1), and it connects and refreshes the amp presets with no issues.

I think I have found a fix/workaround on the iPhone. The problem seems to stem from the iPhone connecting to the amp before the app does. There is actually the following "known issues" warning in the firmware release notes pertaining to connection issues with bluetooth audio streaming; but, it appears this issue affects app connectivity as well.
  • Known issues (check back for a future fix)
    • iOS 13.x users: there is a Tone/amp connection issue that can be avoided by making the connection between the Tone app and your amp FIRST before connecting your phone to your amp for bluetooth audio streaming.
It appears that, if Bluetooth in iOS automatically connects to the amp prior to the tone app connecting, then there is some sort of communications conflict. So, you want the amp to be present in the list of "MY DEVICES" when Bluetooth is turned ON; but, not to have Bluetooth connect to the amp automatically outside of the Tone app.

To achieve this, do the following:
  • If your iOS device is not already paired with the amp, pair it in accordance with Fender instructions. Note, this requires a response on the amp to confirm acceptance of the pairing.
  • At this point with the general Bluetooth settings, the amp should appear in the "MY DEVICES" list, and will show a status of "Connected".
  • Select the 'Information' icon (the little circle with an "i" in it) for the amp.
  • Select "Disconnect"
  • Go back to the general Bluetooth settings.
The amp should now still be in the "MY DEVICES" list; but, it should show a status of "Not Connected". In this configuration, iOS recognizes the presence of the device, but it does not automatically connect to it.

Launch the Tone app, and select the Rumble amp in 'Settings' (if you haven't already connected the app to the amp). Once a connection to the amp has been established within the Tone app, it will reconnect to it automatically in subsequent launches of the app.

This has resolved the intermittent connection issues for me, and dramatically improved connectivity performance.
I hope this helps.


Regarding the app itself:
I like the new layout. I have always been a bit partial to the skeuomorphic designs like we had in Fuse. Although I think plain configuration data entry like in Tone 2.x is simpler and more parameter-focused, the "real-world" amp appearance just makes it seem more intuitive. So, so far, I like the new design.

Plus, a big thing (for me at least): It looks like they fixed the issue that affected the saving of Rumble V3 presets in the iOS app. If you don't recall, the Rumble V3's "Vintage", "Overdrive", "Contour", and "Bright" settings were omitted in the iOS version of the app. This resulted in these parameters not being included when you saved or restored a Rumble V3 preset. These parameters are present in the 3.0 rev of the iOS app. So, while I have not tested saving and restoring a Rumble V3 preset with the new app, yet, I am encouraged by its presence that the issue is fixed.

Rumble on, fellow digital Rumblers!!!
 
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Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

Thanks, Fender. A link to your release of the New Fender TONE 3.0 App & Firmware Update has been added to the Rumble Club Wiki page at the bottom of the TONE APP SUPPORT section. It's a very long awaited update for our owners, who have been so looking forward to it.

Thank you, Fender, for exciting update. :thumbsup:
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I read a while back that the amp can cut in and out, possibly linked to the wifi. Has his been an issue for anyone, if so has it been resolved?

Also has anyone run the studio 40 into an active PA cab via xlr? Was is suitable for a bar gig?

I'd like to run the Studio 40 as my DSP with included speaker for practice/recording and hook up an active PA cab for gigs. Would this work? Never gigged before, would like to have that as an option without going the Stage 800 route.
 
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I read a while back that the amp can cut in and out, possibly linked to the wifi. Has his been an issue for anyone, if so has it been resolved?

Also has anyone run the studio 40 into an active PA cab via xlr? Was is suitable for a bar gig?


It seems to have stopped on mine. I unpaired my phone, opened the app and let it pair to my phone. I no longer stream BT audio to my phone because I mostly play along to YT videos and the lag is intolerable. Just using aux cable. I noticed the app would connect regardless of my phone's BT being off. Last night however, I had to turn my BT on for the app to pair. I'll write more tonight after I toy around with it. I'm trying to be as scientific as I can.
 
“Well it just goes to show you: It’s always something. You either got a toenail in your hamburger or toilet paper clinging to your shoe.” - Rosanne Roseannadanna
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I was messing around with the new Tone app. When I tried to add or switch an effect or amp using the iOS version of the Tone 3.0 app, I got a warning/error message saying, "Limited Functionality - Please update to the latest amp firmware to access this feature." I wasn't getting this error message on the Android version.

I did a "full" re-install of firmware update just to make sure that the initial installation failure I had this morning didn't leave the firmware messed up somehow. The "full" firmware update ran without error; but, I was still getting the error/warning.

So, I fully deleted the app from my iOS device, and re-installed/re-configured it from scratch. And, all is now well. (Hopefully!)
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I am glad that error is fixed, 'cause I am really liking the new app. As I said earlier being presented with a device UI that looks like an amp or a stomp box, and being to twiddle the knobs and/or move sliders, etc., is just so much more intuitive.
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Now I guess I ought to check out the new effects...

Hope this helps...
 
I read a while back that the amp can cut in and out, possibly linked to the wifi. Has his been an issue for anyone, if so has it been resolved?

Also has anyone run the studio 40 into an active PA cab via xlr? Was is suitable for a bar gig?

I'd like to run the Studio 40 as my DSP with included speaker for practice/recording and hook up an active PA cab for gigs. Would this work? Never gigged before, would like to have that as an option without going the Stage 800 route.
JBK, my response to this would be: Yes, you can; but, its effectiveness, and your satisfaction, will depend on a number of factors.

I know that it is possible, because I have. I have a Bronco 40, and have run its Line Out through one of my QSC K12.2s. It worked well enough in a small club environment. Having said that, the configuration sounds nowhere near as full as my R800c. Even though the K12.2s are decently full ranged, I think the frequency response in the lower spectrum are likely less than most decent bass cabs.

So, if you don't need to be big and boomy, it may work well enough for you. Also, you need to consider monitoring. Are you're using IEMs, or can your wedges or bass speaker placement provide enough stage volume for monitoring?

I went the "R800c + 210 ext cab" route because I knew I was going to be playing in a lot of situations where I need a decent amount of volume and would not be able to rely on PA sound reinforcement for the bass. I can scale from the DI out, to the combo alone, to the combo plus the extension cab (which can get really loud).
Beyond that, hopefully, Dave Rat will be doing our sound. ;)