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Fender Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800

I love my Rumble! I've been gigging with it for almost a year now. I just made a video about some settings that get pretty close to some more well-known sounds.



Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

Thanks, @droo46. A link to your post relating your video of Four Great Tones From Your Fender Rumble has been added to the Rumble Club Wiki page in the middle of the TONE POOL section. This is a very helpful demonstration that needs to be captured for posterity! Perhaps someone will also add those settings to the TONE POOL list for future reference.

Thank you, droo, for sharing this very valuable information. :thumbsup:

Rumble On!
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Morning everyone,

My aging MacBook finally went kaput. Is there a way that would be able to run either a USB or Audio Line out to my iPad from my Studio 40 for recording?
If you had a cord that was micro-USB to apple lightning, the amp should theoretically act as its own audio interface and you could record direct to any app on the Ipad. I've never done it with an ipad, but it works with my computer and my android phone.

You may need to do the old firmware update a couple of times before it starts working smoothly, I have had some issues with that, but it should work.
 
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If you had a cord that was micro-USB to apple lightning, the amp should theoretically act as its own audio interface and you could record direct to any app on the Ipad. I've never done it with an ipad, but it works with my computer and my android phone.

You may need to do the old firmware update a couple of times before it starts working smoothly, I have had some issues with that, but it should work.

Cool, I'll give that a shot. Think I'm gonna spring for an interface and laptop at some point, but it would be a nice short-term solution.
 
Cool, I'll give that a shot. Think I'm gonna spring for an interface and laptop at some point, but it would be a nice short-term solution.
It definitely works. I just tested it with my Rumble Stage 800 and iPad Pro (which should only differ from older iPads with respect to the connection-type).

The Rumble Stage/Studio presents as a class-compliant USB device. Both GarageBand and Auria (3rd party DAW app) recognized the Rumble as a 2-channel audio interface when connected via the camera kit cable adapter.
 
It definitely works. I just tested it with my Rumble Stage 800 and iPad Pro (which should only differ from older iPads with respect to the connection-type).

The Rumble Stage/Studio presents as a class-compliant USB device. Both GarageBand and Auria (3rd party DAW app) recognized the Rumble as a 2-channel audio interface when connected via the camera kit cable adapter.

Cool, I'll look for a cable on Amazon
 
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Hi all. First post here. Still have to get my rumble number and post a pic of my gear.

I've searched, but can't find an answer to my issue. I can't get my Fender Tone App to communicate with my Studio 40. The app just doesn't find the amp. I've ensured that no other BT devices are connected to the amp, I don't have WiFi enabled, have the latest updates on the amp and the app, but the app just doesn't find the amp.

Any suggestions?
 
Hi all. First post here. Still have to get my rumble number and post a pic of my gear.

I've searched, but can't find an answer to my issue. I can't get my Fender Tone App to communicate with my Studio 40. The app just doesn't find the amp. I've ensured that no other BT devices are connected to the amp, I don't have WiFi enabled, have the latest updates on the amp and the app, but the app just doesn't find the amp.

Any suggestions?


Welcome to TalkBass in general, RL, and to The Fender Rumble Club in particular. Yes, by all means, show us a pic of your Rumble(s) in The Club's main thread in that link and get a member number.

First, make sure you've followed all the steps in the Fender website's the TONE APP Support section webpage. IIRC, always being reluctant to create new accounts, I tried skipping that step and (of course) met with no success. Also, my phone's getting old, at 5 or 6 years, although The Fender Rumble Club, but I suspect its Bluetooth may not be as reliable as it once was. But, after getting the initial connection, it's been good ever since.

Also, see if anything else in the TONE APP Support section of the Rumble Club Wiki page might be helpful to your situation. Then, once connected, see what other Wiki resources are of interest.

Hope this helps you.
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I have a question about rumbles.
Or more specifically, maybe fender combos and heads in general. Well, I have stumbled upon people writing that the fender sound isn't anything special, that it's just clean without any nuance or flavor. What do you all make of it?
Personally, I like the rumble sound because it allows me to do whatever with it as I see fit.

Any opinions on the matter?
Thank you and rumble on!

You say your question is about Rumbles but, IME, the writing you refer to has been applied to most all Fender products at one time or another. And, it may seem true in certain circumstances. F'rinstance, the Fender guitar amps got a reputation early on for being "as piercing as ice-picks" due to their lack of distortion thru most of their volume range. That was especially true when using Fender's likewise piercing single-coil pickup guitars! Hence the need to really crank Fender guitar amps to get the oft-desired warm, or even hairy, distorted guitar tone. Nothing special? Hmmph! It was a significantly cleaner flavor than most expected, and it took some getting used to.

Some believe this contributed to the use of early Fender Bassman amps with guitar to get a richer guitar tone from the more bassy circuit and/or bassy speakers. Meanwhile, others were promoting their more distorted (cheaper to produce?) amps and pickups as having that "more flavorful" tone. Lemons to lemonade, eh?

Then, Fender Stratocasters had been pidgeonholed into that clean, reverby surf sound when "that left-handed British black guy" invaded America with a Strat and a few FX pedals. Suddenly, that clean Fender sound was in demand, since it could be dirtied up to taste and still cleaned up nicely!

Though, admittedly, the CBS-owned Fender company never did any significant bass amp development, while Ampeg and others were very actively pushing the loud & heavy rock bass scene. Thus Fender bass amps got the reputation for being underpowered with weak speakers, compared to the more powerful bass amps of the '70s and '80s. But most admitted, however, that the Bassman had great tone at low volumes.

Then, in the mid-'90s came the very first Fender Rumble bass amp from their Custom Shop! Now, this was a serious 300 watt all tube head sitting on a couple of serious 4x12 cabs, some including subwoofers! I get the feeling it was limited Custom Shop production without the venerable Bassman name in order to test the marketing waters. Well, it must have been deemed a success as the 300 watt Bassman later appeared with real bass tuned drivers! Late to the modern bass party, and hard to shake old perceptions, but a real player nonetheless.

Then(!), the Rumble name returned in the early 2000s, but was relegated to Fender's "value line" of small solid state bass amps, while the Bassman name carried on what the first Rumble started! Again, maybe as a test, Rumbles had something to prove in this new incarnation (V1) as cheap, beginners, or practice, bass amps. "Hey, how 'bout adding a sound sensitive pulsing red light in the port?", somebody said. Are you kidding me?!? Why not just print the word "toy" on the nameplate!?! But, slowly, over time, the Rumbles gained market share with reliability and versatility of good tone at an affordable price. And this was enough to justify more powerful 150 watt & 350 watt amps and very good speakers in the second version (V2). Until, finally, the third version of Rumbles (V3) got the retro Bassman cosmetics and some really serious, 500 watt power and ultra lightweight cabs, that took off like wildfire! The V3 Rumbles are now crowned with the 800 watt, 2 ohm stable, 800 HD and three 3rd generation bass modeling amps, the LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800.

Nothing special? No nuance or flavor? Well, It's hard to argue with success, but detractors will always try, and you'll never convince some people with words. I, for one, never gave a serious thought to the V1 or V2 Rumbles, and expected my trial of the V3 R500c to fall flat. "But if you saw my face? Now I'm a believer!"

Sorry for the rant. :unsure:


ps: I'm considering getting a cool V1 Rumble 25 with the pulsing red light!

Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

Thanks to the Rumble Triumvirate, for your support and encouragement. A link to my post relating a mini-history of Fender products answering the question Are Fenders Just Clean Without Any Nuance or Flavor? has been added to the Rumble Club Wiki page at the end of the Rumble Talks section. Hopefully this will provide some helpful historical perspective to new Rumblers!

Thank you, again, Rumble Triumvirate for your review and feedback. :thumbsup:

Rumble On!
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Ladies and gentlemen of The Club: I just discovered a very educational thread with significant technical input from an extremely knowledgeable "ElderEquine", if you know who I mean. If not then, See the new top link in the Speaker Replacements section of the Rumble Club Wiki. Although that thread was started about a 120-watt Hartke amp, it quickly referenced the V3 Rumble 100 in a similar situation.

Seems both combo amps come with speakers "nominally rated" for only 75-watts, but with higher rated amp heads, which would, on the surface, seem problematic! But, the MatureSteed, who is very familiar with testing & design processes (to say the least), assures that these speaker specs are not even reasonably accurate and, more specifically, that Fender's testing is "pretty conservative compared with most".

Therefore, the message I get and relay here is: Do not replace the V3 Rumble 100 speaker just because you heard, or read, that it's just a 75-watt speaker! Further, I believe, it may be that just adding a bit of internal acoustic fill, usually lacking from the R100c (but not from the R200c or R500c) and described in the Rumble Modifications section of the Rumble Club Wiki, may improve its sound as much as an expensive speaker swap.

I hope this info will be useful to some here, especially for the spec-hound modifiers amongst us. :) And long shall we all continue to . . . .

Rumble On!
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I assume the answer to the following question is, yes, but wondering if anyone has done so and can confirm/advise of any issues.

Can you use the Fender Tone app on the same device to run both a Studio 40 and a Stage 800, not at the same time (or is this also possible)? Or would one have to have two separate devices configured with the app?

Again, I assume that the app will work with either device, one at a time, whichever one is connected via Bluetooth?

Thx!


SPG
 
I assume the answer to the following question is, yes, but wondering if anyone has done so and can confirm/advise of any issues.

Can you use the Fender Tone app on the same device to run both a Studio 40 and a Stage 800, not at the same time (or is this also possible)? Or would one have to have two separate devices configured with the app?

Again, I assume that the app will work with either device, one at a time, whichever one is connected via Bluetooth?

Thx!


SPG


Interesting question, G. I think, like you, that you should be able to control different amps with the same app, depending on which is connected by Bluetooth. But, I haven't heard of anyone with more than one amp to try it out. Why don't you get a Studio and see? :)
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Can you use the Fender Tone app on the same device to run both a Studio 40 and a Stage 800, not at the same time (or is this also possible)? Or would one have to have two separate devices configured with the app?

I've been using a Lenovo Android tablet to control both a Rumble Studio 40 and a Mustang GT40, not at the same time, of course. I haven't noticed any trouble. It does take several seconds for the tablet to switch gears when I connect from one amp to the other, but once the switch is made there seems to be no difficulty.
 
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I've been using a Lenovo Android tablet to control both a Rumble Studio 40 and a Mustang GT40, not at the same time, of course. I haven't noticed any trouble. It does take several seconds for the tablet to switch gears when I connect from one amp to the other, but once the switch is made there seems to be no difficulty.


:woot: Whoot! :woot: There it is!! :woot: That's the answer, @ShawnG. Just as we suspected. :)
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Greetings Rumblers!!! I am a Studio 40 owner which I bought to replace my first amp, an old SWR Basic Black. I am considering an new amp and of course the Stage 880 is my first choice based on the functionality of the Studio 40. I have never played through any other amps, I haven't giggled (yet) but have a goal if playing outside of the basement come summer time. I don't have a problem pulling the trigger blindly on the Stage 800. I am also a little ambivalent about heading out go try different amps during the pandemic. What other rigs did you consider before going with the 800 and what was the final deciding factor. I understand everyone's mileage will vary. TIA
 
Greetings Rumblers!!! I am a Studio 40 owner which I bought to replace my first amp, an old SWR Basic Black. I am considering an new amp and of course the Stage 880 is my first choice based on the functionality of the Studio 40. I have never played through any other amps, I haven't giggled (yet) but have a goal if playing outside of the basement come summer time. I don't have a problem pulling the trigger blindly on the Stage 800. I am also a little ambivalent about heading out go try different amps during the pandemic. What other rigs did you consider before going with the 800 and what was the final deciding factor. I understand everyone's mileage will vary. TIA
Re: “gigablity” of the Stage 800, I see no downsides as long as you aren’t trying to change the models/presets between every song. That could be a headache as I think you’d be chasing EQs constantly, and driving a soundman (if present) and possibly your band mates nuts. As long as you have the discipline to limit yourself to 2-3 (or less) settings per gig (that you could setup during sound check, then switch to via foot pedal) I think it would be a great gigging amp that would allow you to get a vintage “tubey” sound for the songs that would benefit from that and a more modern hi-fi(ish) sound as well when that is called for. You could add/remove effects as needed via the Stage’s virtual “pedals” as well without the need for an actual pedal-board. 400 watts through the combo’s 2x10s should be plenty loud for most venues and 800 watts through combo and extension speaker should cover pretty much everything else!
I’m considering going in the opposite direction. I bought a Stage 800 as my first amp (deal was too good to pass up) even though I knew it would be total overkill. I’ve been really happy with the amp and will keep it in case I ever graduate to gigs (it gets plenty loud, I’m happy with the tone/response of the 2x10s and would consider a 2x10 extension cab if needed), but the portability of the Studio 40 would make me more likely to pull it out and use it w/headphones vs. plugging in to my PJB BigHead. It would be nice to have the amp models more readily available for practice. Getting the Stage 800 out and setup is enough of an issue to make it less likely to be used for quick 10-15 min practice sessions that I accomplish multiple times throughout the day. S40 would be much less instrusive.
 
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