Fender Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800

[ChickWithaRic]

I can make recordings by directly connecting the Rumble Stage 800 to the PC with the Windows 10 operating system via a USB cable. The recording software I use is Bandlab. It is a free web application that works in the browser without having to install any program. You just need to be registered. It is a good idea to adjust the USB output gain on the Rumble so as not to saturate the signal. I have used +4.5 dB.

Thanks, I'll try Bandlab. I'm currently the default 6db but even an oversaturated signal would be welcome. Sometimes I wish I had stuck with my Macs.

 

[ChickWithaRic]

Update firmware, and then do it again. Then try it a few times, then it will work for a while, and it won't work, rinse repeat. I have found this process to be amazingly good when it works, but pretty flaky to get working.

In other words, buy a Focusrite. And I just missed out on one for $50.

 

[SoulReflection]

Thanks, I'll try Bandlab. I'm currently the default 6db but even an oversaturated signal would be welcome. Sometimes I wish I had stuck with my Macs.

In my case, I had to manually go into settings to select ASIO (Bluetooth and other devices>Audio>name of interface). I use a Focusrite interface.

 

[G-Dog]

Has anybody successfully connected their Rumble's USB audio out to a Windows 10 DAW? I'm using ASIO4All and it's like it's not even there. The system just won't recognize it.

**frustration**

Have you read the USB links at the bottom of the Stage 800 & Studio 40 Links section of the Rumble Club Wiki page? May be some help there.
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[ChickWithaRic]

In my case, I had to manually go into settings to select ASIO (Bluetooth and other devices>Audio>name of interface). I use a Focusrite interface.

Quite honestly Win 10 audio is a huge mess, and I think I would save myself a lot of time and swear words by just getting a Focusrite, with a proper driver. Disappointed in Fender in this regard, for dropping their dedicated driver and steering everybody to ASIO4All, but that's life.

 

[ChickWithaRic]

Have you read the USB links at the bottom of the Stage 800 & Studio 40 Links section of the Rumble Club Wiki page? May be some help there.
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I have, but life is a finite resource and I could claw ten years of it back by just buying a Focusrite and forgetting where the Rumble manual mentioned USB audio. It's like where the Ducati manual mentions the high quality electrics fitted to your bike, and you just laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

 

[Heavy Blue]

It's like where the Ducati manual mentions the high quality electrics fitted to your bike, and you just laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

So Ducati electrical is about on par with early 70’s British bikes then?

 

[ChickWithaRic]

So Ducati electrical is about on par with early 70’s British bikes then?

I have a 2017 Scrambler and if I brake hard the headlight goes on main beam and I signal to turn left. It's inconvenient in city traffic. Fortunately, I have fully functional middle finger.

 

[Heavy Blue]

I have a 2017 Scrambler and if I brake hard the headlight goes on main beam and I signal to turn left. It's inconvenient in city traffic. Fortunately, I have fully functional middle finger.

It’s very surprising to me to hear about that on such a modern bike. I thought the Italian bike makers had improved their electrical game from the 70’s spaghetti.

The old ‘81 Honda CB750C I’m currently riding still has the original harness and has never had an issue. The thing is like an old tank. It clatters away but you can’t kill it.

All bike riders require a functional middle finger to deal with all the brain dead cagers.

 

[Buzzment]

I can make recordings by directly connecting the Rumble Stage 800 to the PC with the Windows 10 operating system via a USB cable. The recording software I use is Bandlab. It is a free web application that works in the browser without having to install any program. You just need to be registered. It is a good idea to adjust the USB output gain on the Rumble so as not to saturate the signal. I have used +4.5 dB.

Hey Ric does Bandlab pump out ads?..Is it better than Audacity?. I haven't got round to recording any music yet..(Still need to get a laptop lol

 

[ricardol]

Hey Ric does Bandlab pump out ads?..Is it better than Audacity?. I haven't got round to recording any music yet..(Still need to get a laptop lol

Bandlab does not pump out ads... It´s a musician’s community sharing platform where you can choose whether you want to publish your work or to keep it private. You can invite other collaborators or be invited to a Project. I use it to share my bass tracks with other musicians to compose or to cover a song. It keeps record of your project’s history (fluxgram of versions) which is helpful to protect your work from “mistakes” caused by the project collaborators. I've never used Audacity but Bandlab allows you to export the tracks and to use them with any other DAW. Here´s a link to a Project I’ve done with Bandlab:

BandLab: Make Music Online

 

[Buzzment]

Bandlab does not pump out ads... It´s a musician’s community sharing platform where you can choose whether you want to publish your work or to keep it private. You can invite other collaborators or be invited to a Project. I use it to share my bass tracks with other musicians to compose or to cover a song. It keeps record of your project’s history (fluxgram of versions) which is helpful to protect your work from “mistakes” caused by the project collaborators. I've never used Audacity but Bandlab allows you to export the tracks and to use them with any other DAW. Here´s a link to a Project I’ve done with Bandlab:

BandLab: Make Music Online

Bandlab does not pump out ads... It´s a musician’s community sharing platform where you can choose whether you want to publish your work or to keep it private. You can invite other collaborators or be invited to a Project. I use it to share my bass tracks with other musicians to compose or to cover a song. It keeps record of your project’s history (fluxgram of versions) which is helpful to protect your work from “mistakes” caused by the project collaborators. I've never used Audacity but Bandlab allows you to export the tracks and to use them with any other DAW. Here´s a link to a Project I’ve done with Bandlab:

BandLab: Make Music Online

Oh right sounds cool..funky bass and she's a good singer!!..I'm looking into getting Ableton 11 or 12 so I can make music ..I'd put down Bass tracks from my Rumble and use Ableton to add Synths,Drums etc...

 

[RL5]

Hi all. Looking for a good amp model for my Studio 40. I'll be auditioning for a '80s hair band within the next couple of weeks and would love some amp model recommendations (not exactly my style, I prefer late '60s/'70s rock, but haven't found anyone looking for a bass player for that genre yet. This will at least give me an opportunity to play with others and see if I can still hang with a band. It's been a long time since I've gigged with anyone.). Any suggestions appreciated.

 

[Buzzment]

Hi all. Looking for a good amp model for my Studio 40. I'll be auditioning for a '80s hair band within the next couple of weeks and would love some amp model recommendations (not exactly my style, I prefer late '60s/'70s rock, but haven't found anyone looking for a bass player for that genre yet. This will at least give me an opportunity to play with others and see if I can still hang with a band. It's been a long time since I've gigged with anyone.). Any suggestions appreciated.

Why don't you go onto the Fender app and go to the downloads section..there is a metal and rock section in it..I'm sure you will find a decent tone there..you can download em and tweak n save them if you like...

 

[RL5]

Haven't explored that yet. I'll look into it. I'm sure there's a ton. Has anyone found one in particular that you or others like?

 

[Gsnorgathon]

Dunno 'bout hair metal, but GKs and SWRs were big in the '80s, so the KGB and Redhead amp models would be a logical place to start. Rockin' Peg, too, as SVTs never go out of style.

 

[G-Dog]

Hi all. Looking for a good amp model for my Studio 40. I'll be auditioning for a '80s hair band within the next couple of weeks and would love some amp model recommendations (not exactly my style, I prefer late '60s/'70s rock, but haven't found anyone looking for a bass player for that genre yet. This will at least give me an opportunity to play with others and see if I can still hang with a band. It's been a long time since I've gigged with anyone.). Any suggestions appreciated.

I'm with you, RL. Some say I'm "stuck in the '60s" but I do enjoy stretching myself now & then.

I'd suugest you take a look at the Preset DECODER files linked in The @Droopy_TX Rumble Preset Experience sub-section of the Rumble Club Wiki page Tone App Support section. There, in the far right column of the chart, you'll find some descriptions of "Song Preset" for certain bands & songs. Just pick an '80s tune, or two, to try. Sorry, I'm not more familiar with all those listed songs to give you any more specific reference(s).

Good luck!
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[ChickWithaRic]

It depends how hairy you want your metal to be. For a Billy Sheehan sound I'd start with the GK amp model, ramp up the mids, dial in some compression (and I'd use outboard compression for that), go from there. 80s metal tended to have a very clean and punchy sound on bass.

I'd also look at the Orange amp model for its superior midrange, and natural distortion. Again, with compression upstream in the signal.

Do you see the common theme here? A decent compressor. Unfortunately the Rumble compressor isn't the best by any means, for real 80s vibe you want to get a vintage plastic bodied Arion (I have one, and they rock) or try the Amazon Basics/ Kokko model (they are essentially the same and will cost you a princely $20), which really is a very good compressor but you will need a 9v pedal power supply as it doesn't take a battery. You essentially want to "squash" your sound, and you'll know you have hit the sweet spot the moment that you dial it in. I'd begin with a fast attack, low threshold and medium sustain. Adjust the threshold first and then dial in the attack and sustain until you reach your preferred level of spicy.

I'd hold back on distortion and dig in hard to get a natural growl, then adjust the overdrive between pre and master on the amp model to suit your own playing style. As with ANY compressor, set it right at the start of your signal chain otherwise it will be noisy and hissy and annoying. That's just how they work, irrespective of whether it cost $20 or $200.

I hope this made sense and was helpful, I know what I'm doing but I'm not always very good at communicating that process to other people.

 

[RL5]

It depends how hairy you want your metal to be. For a Billy Sheehan sound I'd start with the GK amp model, ramp up the mids, dial in some compression (and I'd use outboard compression for that), go from there. 80s metal tended to have a very clean and punchy sound on bass.

I'd also look at the Orange amp model for its superior midrange, and natural distortion. Again, with compression upstream in the signal.

Do you see the common theme here? A decent compressor. Unfortunately the Rumble compressor isn't the best by any means, for real 80s vibe you want to get a vintage plastic bodied Arion (I have one, and they rock) or try the Amazon Basics/ Kokko model (they are essentially the same and will cost you a princely $20), which really is a very good compressor but you will need a 9v pedal power supply as it doesn't take a battery. You essentially want to "squash" your sound, and you'll know you have hit the sweet spot the moment that you dial it in. I'd begin with a fast attack, low threshold and medium sustain. Adjust the threshold first and then dial in the attack and sustain until you reach your preferred level of spicy.

I'd hold back on distortion and dig in hard to get a natural growl, then adjust the overdrive between pre and master on the amp model to suit your own playing style. As with ANY compressor, set it right at the start of your signal chain otherwise it will be noisy and hissy and annoying. That's just how they work, irrespective of whether it cost $20 or $200.

I hope this made sense and was helpful, I know what I'm doing but I'm not always very good at communicating that process to other people.

Good info Chick. Thanks for all the information.

 

[RL5]

I did some testing with the tip that @Gsnorgathon gave regarding the built-in pitch shifters. For simple capo-type transposition, the proper effect is the Chromatic Pitch Shifter. The Diatonic Pitch Shifter creates note offsets based on the song's key and the chosen interval. This is more for creating harmonies than simple transposition.

Using the amp's front panel, the Chromatic Pitch Shifter effect is located in the FILTERS+SHIFT group, and called PITCH SHIFTER. Once you've added it, it's called CHROM PITCH.

Here's an illustration of the parameters:
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It works pretty well. Certainly good enough for live performance. I am going to make a couple generic tone presets with the effect set for Eb and Drop D tunings. This will cover my needs in case I ever have any problems with my HX Stomp. (Also, perfect for any impromptu jams with those SRV aficionados that just HAVE to tune down like Stevie did.)

Thanks for the tip, Gsnorg.

Droopy. I see that setting this to -200 drops a whole step down. What's the setting for a 1/2 step? I have 2 songs I'm learning and one requires D tuning, the other requires Eb. Haven't had much time to play with this and it still take me time to get everything set up on the menus, so any short cuts are appreciated.