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FINALLY!! The Truth Revealed...Maybe

He could just take a plane from L.A. to Tokyo to New York.

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All the pilots are in on it. They're just flying in a circle above a flat plane which totally explains why a flight from LA to Tokyo might make an emergency stop in Alaska. Nothing else can explain that. :D

I think you might have to include somewhere in Europe on that itinerary in order to get back to New York in a westerly direction because flights from NY to directly to Tokyo go in the same direction as the ones from LA to Tokyo.

I’m not so sure. would that be high enough to see the ice wall?

No, and the horizon looks flat at 35000', ergo it is flat. :D
 
Wouldn't the ice wall melt letting massive amounts of water spill over the edge when the sun resides nearer to S. America and Africa as they are warm year round as is the Pacific (formerly known as the South Pacific) on the opposite side of the disk ? Perhaps theres a return line that keeps refilling the water levels so it goes un-noticed.

Is there more than one sun ? one for each side of the disk ?

It bogles the imagination:smug:
 
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All the pilots are in on it. They're just flying in a circle above a flat plane which totally explains why a flight from LA to Tokyo might make an emergency stop in Alaska. Nothing else can explain that. :D

I think you might have to include somewhere in Europe on that itinerary in order to get back to New York in a westerly direction because flights from NY to directly to Tokyo go in the same direction as the ones from LA to Tokyo.



No, and the horizon looks flat at 35000', ergo it is flat. :D
The funny thing is they do fly in a circle on long haul routes! The circle is underneath the path. Ok, it's not a perfect circle because the Earth is less than a perfect sphere, and air traffic requirements, but it's pretty close overall.
 
The funny thing is they do fly in a circle on long haul routes! The circle is underneath the path. Ok, it's not a perfect circle because the Earth is less than a perfect sphere, and air traffic requirements, but it's pretty close overall.

That was the joke. :D A flat-earth believing acquaintance of mine posted a video online that was supposed to confirm a flat earth based on long haul flight paths and the premise was that a flight from Taipei to LA made an emergency stop in Alaska and that could only work on a flat earth because on a globe they'd fly directly across the ocean. I tried to point out that a northern great circle route was actually shorter and also that a twin jet like the B777 in that video can only be 3 hours away from an alternate airport at any time (ETOPS) and as such a direct Pacific crossing is not possible but he didn't hear me. :D
 
For the conspiracy buffs, be it JFK, Area 51, flat earthers, birthers, whatever, knowing that people can't keep their big yaps shut ever, where are the corroborators? You'd think someone would break, and finally tell .

The flat earth and every other conspiracy theory that requires a large number of people to be in on it fails on exactly this. There has to have been millions of people involved in the so-called globe hoax since the heliocentric model has gained popularity and not one of them has spilled the beans? People can't keep their mouths shut about mundane stuff, why would anyone think they could about something as big as that?

Yeppers, once the giant ice ring melts....

It's definitely an odd mix. The typical flat earther apparently believes in the science behind anthropogenic climate change, yet rejects just about all other science including extremely well established stuff like gravity even though plenty of climate research depends on the scientific concepts they reject. Weird.
 
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The flat earth and every other conspiracy theory that requires a large number of people to be in on it fails on exactly this. There has to have been millions of people involved in the so-called globe hoax since the heliocentric model has gained popularity and not one of them has spilled the beans? People can't keep their mouths shut about mundane stuff, why would anyone think they could about something as big as that?



It's definitely an odd mix. The typical flat earther apparently believes in the science behind anthropogenic climate change, yet rejects just about all other science including extremely well established stuff like gravity even though plenty of climate research depends on the scientific concepts they reject. Weird.
You are absolutly on point about the improbability of a vast conspiracy of any kind succeeding. If more than one person knows about some plan to game a particular system or decieve the population of any society, someone will talk. The only way it can work is to seal all physical borders, then keep an iron fist on all communication both internal and external. It would take a society and government like North Korea to get away with telling your citizens that Americans live in massive tents, line up every day for coffee made from snow, and we’ve eaten all the birds in America because we are starving. All of these “facts” are contained in a film produced by the NK government and shown to the people of NK, who have no reason to doubt it because they’ve never seen, heard, or read anything to dispute or deny the info they are given. It’s the only way you can sell the idea that the million odd people in NK who die of starvation every year do so as a result of a conspiracy by the rest of the world to punish the only democratic republic on earth by refusing to engage in peaceful trade with them.

As for the odd mix, apparently mankind has been plagued by flat earth types since we emerged from the primordial ooze.

I recall an episode of Cosmos where Sagan was explaining the hypocrisies of Pythagoras and the ethical failings of Plato. He said the Pathagorean’s prefered that ordinary people be kept ignorant so they hid their knowledge of the dodecahedron and the square root of two, and that Plato’s arguments against the real world, experiments, and practicality where so compelling they emboldened his followers to eventually extinguish the light of science in Ionia and it stayed that way until the Renaissance, so apparently science elitists and science deniers have coexisted since the beginning.

Just one guy’s opinion, but we are well into a period where science denial is trending upward as fear drives us into ever more tribal clusters. Should we survive the coming madness, i expect historians on the other side will characterize flat earthers as quaint, harmless eccentrics when compared to some of the atrocities perpetrated by other believers in magic and mysticism. :D
 
You are absolutly on point about the improbability of a vast conspiracy of any kind succeeding. If more than one person knows about some plan to game a particular system or decieve the population of any society, someone will talk. The only way it can work is to seal all physical borders, then keep an iron fist on all communication both internal and external. It would take a society and government like North Korea to get away with telling your citizens that Americans live in massive tents, line up every day for coffee made from snow, and we’ve eaten all the birds in America because we are starving. All of these “facts” are contained in a film produced by the NK government and shown to the people of NK, who have no reason to doubt it because they’ve never seen, heard, or read anything to dispute or deny the info they are given. It’s the only way you can sell the idea that the million odd people in NK who die of starvation every year do so as a result of a conspiracy by the rest of the world to punish the only democratic republic on earth by refusing to engage in peaceful trade with them.

As for the odd mix, apparently mankind has been plagued by flat earth types since we emerged from the primordial ooze.

I recall an episode of Cosmos where Sagan was explaining the hypocrisies of Pythagoras and the ethical failings of Plato. He said the Pathagorean’s prefered that ordinary people be kept ignorant so they hid their knowledge of the dodecahedron and the square root of two, and that Plato’s arguments against the real world, experiments, and practicality where so compelling they emboldened his followers to eventually extinguish the light of science in Ionia and it stayed that way until the Renaissance, so apparently science elitists and science deniers have coexisted since the beginning.

Just one guy’s opinion, but we are well into a period where science denial is trending upward as fear drives us into ever more tribal clusters. Should we survive the coming madness, i expect historians on the other side will characterize flat earthers as quaint, harmless eccentrics when compared to some of the atrocities perpetrated by other believers in magic and mysticism. :D

I totally agree. In the absence of a NK-style regime I tend to think that the likelihood of any conspiracy being real is inversely proportional to the number of people supposed to be in on it.
 
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Looks like Mike Hughes is still having trouble getting this off the ground. Also his rocket/rocket launcher/mobile home broke down.

A flat-earther in California finally tried to fly away. His rocket didn’t even ignite. – The Denver Post

A man who claims that the Earth is flat tried to leave it in a homemade rocket Saturday, but failed to overcome the gravitational force of a 13,166,800,000,000,000,000,000,000-pound sphere directly beneath him
Thanks for the update. :D
 
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