NicJimBass
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I assume by the way you worded it, that you're feeding the HX into the FI? Meaning, the Octave is going into the FI? I think I have mine the opposite of that, so I may need to experiment!
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Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?
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I assume by the way you worded it, that you're feeding the HX into the FI? Meaning, the Octave is going into the FI? I think I have mine the opposite of that, so I may need to experiment!
If you are experiencing some problems with FI patches lacking in bass that can easily be corrected. As a quick fix you have the ability to add bass eq in the eq section in the FI editor, and you could always blend in more of your bass guitar signal too. Of course tweaks can be done with other pedals to complement the FI, but may not be necessary if you dive into the editor and tweak. Also be attentive when blending oscillators in the editor because you can start to get some phasing at certain points which will reduce low end. Small adjustments make a lot of difference. Just need to go slow and be patient.
As for me, one thing for sure is that the FI is not lacking in bass response. It actually sounds huge live. My sound engineer can attest to that LOL!
As for me, one thing for sure is that the FI is not lacking in bass response. It actually sounds huge live. My sound engineer can attest to that LOL!
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Some of the factory presets are a little bass-thin by design; there are some guitar emulations and whistles for example. However, others have very deep bass IMO; in fact, I think sometimes you need a sub to appreciate it. Either way, if you really feel a patch is bass-poor, you shouldn't need another pedal, you should be able to tweak the patch. The unit is certainly capable of producing bass.
I've done this with my HX! In my current HX setup, I have a dedicated preset for the FI. When I toggle the preset, two of the instant MIDI commands tells the FI to turn on and recalls my most used FI patch. I have it in one of the FX loops, which is off by default. The top 3 switches I have assigned to send patch changes to the FI for different songs/sounds. I use the bottom 3 switches for effects. 1 is my octave, 1 is the FI, and 1 is a distortion. I do sometimes add the octave to beef up the FI a bit, but I've tried to program the FI so that I don't necessarily need the octave on too.
One shortcoming with the HX and MIDI is that it doesn't seem like there's a way to assign more than one command per switch. But maybe I just haven't found it yet?
No actually, the Octaver is after the FI, which is why I was somewhat surprised at how it tracked. The Octaver tracking the output of the FI was cleaner than I expected, and there were some nice subtle artifacts and fringing that sounded cool.
I have spent a little time with the editor, and understand all the massive low end available in this device. I didn't intend to suggest that the Octaver was a fix for any shortcoming of the pedal. There are many patches that really kick butt, but there are a small group, Not the twinkling bell like sounds, but those grindy lead style patches, that just seemed to blump up in a cool way.
Absolutely. I wasn't hooked up to the editor, just dinking around, hit a switch, and my eyebrows popped up and my lower gums started to itch. I can't wait to integrate some FI into my bands repertoire.
I was using an aguilar gs410 at a rehearsal a year or two ago and was amazed at how different (not in a good way) the FI sounded through it compared to the acme 410 I was using at the time: The deep low end was either obscured by the voicing of the aguilar or it just wasn't there.
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Yeah the FI is full frequency response just like a synth can be. The bass guitar on its own is really a low midrange instrument and you start to realize that rather fast when you scroll through some presets.
I get a ton of 60-150hz on the moog style presets. Sometimes i write basslines on an actual moog using the same types of sounds and the response is the same when i check it in a spectrum analyzer.
I get a ton of 60-150hz on the moog style presets. Sometimes i write basslines on an actual moog using the same types of sounds and the response is the same when i check it in a spectrum analyzer.
Wow. I’d like to hear your band play a set. That bit crusher is trippy.
I'm a new Future Impact owner as of last week and have yet to dig back through this whole thread, so please pardon my n00b-ness on this question. Has anyone made any homemade software for managing patches? That's been the one downside of the pedal so far, manually naming files and the cumbersome transfer process.
Anyone made any homebrew apps for this?
Anyone made any homebrew apps for this?
The editor is pretty cut and dry. Have you tried it?
There is another thread for patches -- Future Impact Patch sharing thread with the patch share drive - [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
I've been deep in the digging through and categorizing and taking notes phase...once you find what you like and organize it all in a way that works for you, the tones are amazing.
Yeah, and the whole process of having to manually rename files to get them on the device is about as clunky as it gets compared with other devices (like from Zoom or Line6). Unless I'm missing something?
Also considering adding in a Soleman to the chain so I can display patch names live.
Also considering adding in a Soleman to the chain so I can display patch names live.
Honestly its super easy. Just make a new folder on your pc with all of the patches that you like. Then to organize them, just rename them according to how you want to scroll through them. So maybe the file 15Saw is your favorite and you rename it to 01Saw. Upload into the FI and now its in your first slot. Thats it.
The best way to really do this as a noob is to be picky about what sounds you love and will use a lot. That should whittle it down to 20 or less.
Then you can load up one of those sounds in the editor and tweak it down the road and make some variants of it. That will help you learn the synth better and also give you a better idea of how to make patches. Save that new patch as maybe 02ModifiedSaw or whatever and it will replace what was in #2 before.
The benefit is that live you may end up just using 1 bank and over time will be able to slide through the patches with zero thought.
There is no non-clunky way to program a synth in a pedal format. Unless you want precanned sounds that cant be changed or some huge monster under your feet. I had the enzo meris and it required buying over $100 in extra devices just to save a preset at all and the space was highly limited. This is like a cadillac compared to that thing.
Even uploading patches into a regular synth can be a pain. You need a program that dumps sysex. You need to save the patches you are overwriting. I just did it and its the same workflow as the fi except i think the fi is a little simpler since i dont have to open a midi sysex program as well.
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not to mention the quality of the sound library. I mean, I'm speachless about what I have found so far beyond what is already loaded. I'm trying to whittle things down and ultimately do as you suggest of having about 20 or so patches arranged in all 99 slots so that if I jump past something it is super easy to get right back where I meant to be. I have found that I'm really clunking so far in getting to my patches but there are giant steps between them.
Make no mistake, if you want to get the most out of your Future Impact, it is a time investment. There are definite shortcuts, but even sifting through the 99 patches it comes with and whittling that down is a bit of a process, but once you dive in, it is mind melting how deep this thing goes...
I got a Soleman for my FI. Works well. Also i wrote a simple batch script so I can print the list of patches i have. I find that a bit easier. Hard to whittle them down though especially if you download all the great ones from the patch thread.
Can anyone share here pic of Depeche Mode Halo preset? I can not find it anywhere? May be someone could share something fresh? Thanks!
Has anyone setup a template on MIDI Designer Pro or Lemur for the FI?
seems the touch surface of a iPad is the perfect way to edit FI paramters real-time.
If the Mac/PC editor app is only connected to the FI via MIDI doens't it makes sense that every parameter it can control can also be controlled with a different app?
Just got the FI and starting to delve into it. great sounds, great tracking, really deep software...
-carl
seems the touch surface of a iPad is the perfect way to edit FI paramters real-time.
If the Mac/PC editor app is only connected to the FI via MIDI doens't it makes sense that every parameter it can control can also be controlled with a different app?
Just got the FI and starting to delve into it. great sounds, great tracking, really deep software...
-carl
