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gas prices

I understand that Scotland oil is a finite amount. Who knows really. I expect my next car will be a diesel. A 1000 km on one tank sounds like a great idea. If I drive my current vehicle carefully (VW GTI) I can get it down to 8.5 litres per 100/K

I got it down to 6.8 with a highway drive the other day. Can't get much better than that.

We're all talking about the price to operate a personal vehicle but consider EVERYTHING else we buy. All the petroleum based products including the interiors of these vehicles will all become more expensive as time goes on. As well as the transportation costs of all that we buy off the shelfs in our grocery stores.

Interesting times ahead for sure. Can't wait until fresh water is traded on the stock markets of the world. :scowl:
 
Gas at the top of my street is $3.93. It's not the cheapest around, but it's average.
The crazy part is that everyday this week it has gone up 10 cents. Monday it was $3.60. what a jump! We'll see what happens tomorrow.

(all this while I search for a new car on the internet that gets really good mileage)
 
I was listening to some analyst that was saying since Exxon/Mobil is the largest oil company, consumers should not buy gas from them. He feels that if we boycott the largest oil company and only buy other brands it will cause them to reduce profits and sell at a lower price and others will follow. He said if Exxon goes back up, we quit buying from them again until they lower the price.

I do know if it would work or not, what are your thoughts?
 
I was listening to some analyst that was saying since Exxon/Mobil is the largest oil company, consumers should not buy gas from them. He feels that if we boycott the largest oil company and only buy other brands it will cause them to reduce profits and sell at a lower price and others will follow. He said if Exxon goes back up, we quit buying from them again until they lower the price.

I do know if it would work or not, what are your thoughts?

That "analyst" is ignorant. Exxon does not set the price of oil, and they have little impact on the the price of gasoline. Exxon earns 9 cents on every dollar of gasoline sold. ExxonMobil cashes in by investing and working hard to get their product to the retail customer in the most efficient way. The federal government collects 18.4 cents per gallon in tax for doing nothing. Federal, state and local taxes total an average of 46 cents per gallon which is more than the 33 cents Exxon earned on a $3 gallon of gas.

The problem is taxes, supply/demand, and speculation.
 
I was listening to some analyst that was saying since Exxon/Mobil is the largest oil company, consumers should not buy gas from them. He feels that if we boycott the largest oil company and only buy other brands it will cause them to reduce profits and sell at a lower price and others will follow. He said if Exxon goes back up, we quit buying from them again until they lower the price.

I do know if it would work or not, what are your thoughts?
It's like trying to herd cats.
 
That "analyst" is ignorant. Exxon does not set the price of oil, and they have little impact on the the price of gasoline. Exxon earns 9 cents on every dollar of gasoline sold. ExxonMobil cashes in by investing and working hard to get their product to the retail customer in the most efficient way. The federal government collects 18.4 cents per gallon in tax for doing nothing. Federal, state and local taxes total an average of 46 cents per gallon which is more than the 33 cents Exxon earned on a $3 gallon of gas.

The problem is taxes, supply/demand, and speculation.
That pretty much nails it. China and India are becoming absolutely ravenous oil consumers. Let's look at it historically-
Through the 80s, and into the 90s, the US was the biggest consumer of oil. Then things started to change when the US corporations started to take peoples' jobs away and gave them to people in India who would do it for pennies a day- IT outsourcing, for example- and then China for manufacturing. Now you have an entire subset of people who have been getting by on $2-3 dollars (equivalent) a DAY, now doubling or tripling their pay. With that enormous windfall, they started to get things they had always wanted, like clothes, shoes, better cuts of meat, etc. How to get to work, and get your new luxury items like TV's and clothes, new food, etc., home? In a car! Or, a scooter...

So now you have added to the equation. Jobs lost in US+Jobs found in developing countries+increased demand for fuel in developing countries+economic downturn in US+dollar weakened by 96% since 2000=you pay WAY more at the pump.

The speculators on the oil market aren't doing us any favors, either. Any time speculation is involved, prices usually jump. It's not in their interest to make prices go down, they don't make much money that way. Far better to bet on steady, large price jumps.

So it's going to continue this way for a long time. And if they pass a "gas tax holiday" for the summer months, they will simply raise prices by the same amount or more to cover their losses, so no net savings there for us. If we reduce our consumption significantly, we save on the front end at the pump, and the trickle-down effect will be reduced demand, thus lowering prices. I already drive one of the most fuel-efficient vehicles, the Chevy Metro, but even I am looking for ways to reduce my fuel consumption. My methods are:

Combine trips- If I need groceries, I get them on the way home from work.

Slow down- Instead of 75 on the freeway, I now do 55-60. I've seen the results as my mileage goes from 40 to 43 mpg on the freeway.

Tire inflation- I keep my tires over-inflated by about 5-7 psi. Instead of 32psi, I keep them at 37. Smaller contact patch= less friction loss. The trade-off is reduced braking power (negligible in my car, it's really light anyway) and a tendency to slide in corners (fun, as long as you know how to handle your vehicle).

I also put 3oz. of 100% pure acetone in my tank per 10 gallons of gas. Dramatic increase in mpg's- went from 36 mpg to over 40. When I don't put it in, my mileage goes right back down.

I run the lightest oil in my engine possible. Usually this is 5W-20 synthetic. Engine spends less power moving oil around.

Take everything you don't absolutely need out of the trunk. Instead of a spare, I carry a couple cans of fix-a-flat. If I have a blow-out, I have a friend with a wrecker I can call.

Easy on the acceleration- it's not a race.

Let off the power way before you have to and drift to the stop sign.

All these tips add up to some significant money. Keeping your car in good repair by taking care of maintenance before something breaks saves you money as well. New plugs every 50-60k, I run NGK Iridium, as they are a hotter plug. All those Bosch multi-prong plugs don't really work, because electricity always takes the path of least resistance, so they will only hit one of the electrodes anyway. There are no multiple sparks. Just one.

Anyway, that's what I do so far.
 
I was listening to some analyst that was saying since Exxon/Mobil is the largest oil company, consumers should not buy gas from them. He feels that if we boycott the largest oil company and only buy other brands it will cause them to reduce profits and sell at a lower price and others will follow. He said if Exxon goes back up, we quit buying from them again until they lower the price.

I do know if it would work or not, what are your thoughts?

i hate when people say stuff like this. the big 3 oil companies sell to all the gas stations. FREDS CORNER SHOP does not have their own refinery folks. everyone gets their oil from the sam big 3 companies. stop buying gas altogether is about the only answer i see.
 
This made me smile....

I was at 100 miles on my tripmeter, so I pulled into the HEB grocery gas pumps. Not the best price around, at $3.62 a gallon, but acceptable enough. I pumped exactly 2.2003 gallons, and figured my mileage: 100 divided by 2.2= 45.45454545 mpg. There was a Prius at the pump on the other side. So, after collecting my change, I casually asked the guy what kind of mileage he was getting in it.

He proudly said "I'm averaging between 42 and 43. Sure makes a difference in my monthly budget!" He suggested I should look into getting one. I told him there was no way I'd drive a gas hog like that!

"Gas hog?"

"Yes," I said, "I get better mileage in my car", and I showed him the proof- even let him do the math.

"What the hell kind of car does that?" he asked.

I told him it was a Chevy. It was a 1999 at that!

"I didn't know Chevy had hybrids going back that far!"

"They didn't. This one is regular gas, four-cylinder, manual transmission. 1.3 liters of throbbing power!" He took a look at it and was amazed. When I left out of there, he was quite dejected, and I was quite proud that I'd finally beaten the "Mileage Champeen"!

I did tell him that I rarely exceeded 60 anymore, preferring to leave for my destination a few minutes earlier, and pocketing the difference. I also crushed his spirits a little more when I told him that I spent a whopping $1500 to buy it, cash, so no car payment! And I don't need full-coverage insurance! Plus, when I have to replace the batteries in my car, it's a single 12-volt for $50 or so, not $5000-8000 like his! Just got new tires, it was $177, mounted and balanced. Got my alignment done at the same time, and an oil change. Should be getting a little better mileage now!