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Genz Benz Streamliner Part 9

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#922
Hapa said:
It is OK to run the amp with out LED's on. Its also a really simple fix...If one goes out they all go out...wired in series. you are still 100% under warranty so give us a call and we can get it fixed for you. Any service center under FMIC or KMC dealer can get you handled as well. Its a matter of a multi meter to find the dud and swapping it out.
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Thank you sir, very good information to know...I'll look into getting this beast fixed up soon enough... [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
 
#923
I've had my Streamliner 900 for about 6 months now, and I'm *still* figuring out the volume controls. I look for a *very* modern sound... tight, sparkle, etc. (I'm in a popular corporate '80s band, so the range of stuff I'm playing ranges from hair rock to absolute sequenced pop). No grind, please! The GB really delivers.

Just picked up a TC Electronic RS212 for a scorching price, and my first gig with the pair will be tonight. Can't wait!
 
#924
amcrory said:
I've had my Streamliner 900 for about 6 months now, and I'm *still* figuring out the volume controls. I look for a *very* modern sound... tight, sparkle, etc. (I'm in a popular corporate '80s band, so the range of stuff I'm playing ranges from hair rock to absolute sequenced pop). No grind, please! The GB really delivers.

Just picked up a TC Electronic RS212 for a scorching price, and my first gig with the pair will be tonight. Can't wait!
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dude, have you seen this thread...very , very informative...:)
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/genz-streamliner-600-900-tone-control-primer-813663/
 
#925
Tunaman said:
How do you guys set up the 3 "volume" knobs (Gain, Master, Volume) for more clarity\grit & less tube\mid scoop?
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Nothing IMO cleans up the STM900 more than a 5751 tube in the V1 slot. It doesn't have the same gain structure as the 12ax7 and it works well to tighten up the low end and just make it cleaner. With the tube swap the STM900 becomes more mid present and more articulate (subtle), but it won't get as narly with the gain button engaged or knob dimed like in Ed Friedlands videos. This is a great thing for me and provides the right amount of hair for me and just makes it more useable. I still run the gain around 12, volume up around 3 - this seem to open the mids up more, and I generally boost the 2.5 to around 3 -ya I like the gank. With this sertup the master volume is around 9 to 10 max. Love it.

Tried the aguilar TH500 but it was a bit to hairy for my taste. The STM900 with the tube swap is perfect for my tastes.
 
#926
Saluki said:
Nothing IMO cleans up the STM900 more than a 5751 tube in the V1 slot. It doesn't have the same gain structure as the 12ax7 and it works well to tighten up the low end and just make it cleaner. With the tube swap the STM900 becomes more mid present and more articulate (subtle), but it won't get as narly with the gain button engaged or knob dimed like in Ed Friedlands videos. This is a great thing for me and provides the right amount of hair for me and just makes it more useable. I still run the gain around 12, volume up around 3 - this seem to open the mids up more, and I generally boost the 2.5 to around 3 -ya I like the gank. With this sertup the master volume is around 9 to 10 max. Love it.

Tried the aguilar TH500 but it was a bit to hairy for my taste. The STM900 with the tube swap is perfect for my tastes.
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I'm considering a 5751 in V1 as well for much the same reason you describe above. Did you leave the stock tubes in V2 & V3? Where did you get your 5751? Eurotubes seems to have a good reputation, but I haven't placed my order yet.
 
#929
Glory

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#931
GRAHAM SG1 said:
I found this Sovtek 5751 at a reasonable price, is this good to replacve the stock tube in V1 ?

http://www.watfordvalves.com/product_detail.asp?id=3184

or this one ?

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No.

The Sovtek has socialist tendencies, and will drag the other two tubes down to its mediocre performance level, shortly before going on strike over working conditions.

The JAN Philips could be an excellent choice, but there's a danger that the cryogenic treatment will result in localized freezing, reducing the tone and power of your amp.

Buy one, then mail it to me for my patented Extended Extreme Heat Treatment (tm).
 
#933
lmao :D
Very good Steve but suppose I am a socialist, do I still buy the Sovtek ?
Also, I was cryogenically frozen years ago and brought back to life, a cryongenic tube will react naturally to my thawed pysical state !

When I send you the JAN tube, would you like it with the amp as once fitted there is no way back ?

So, JAN it is then :D
 
#936
Just started using the SVT setting on my 900....Very Niiiiice. :smug:

Using it in a Tx/Trad blues band setting. With either a Neox 212T or a TB153 (4ohm) and a Am St P5 or JoBo 5er. Chrome and Sad flats for me.

That's working great so far. Drummer says he's diggin it. He should know, he sits right next to my rig every gig. So he hears all my different tone attempts. :bassist:
 
#937
repoman said:
dude, have you seen this thread...very , very informative...:)
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/genz-streamliner-600-900-tone-control-primer-813663/
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I hadn't seen that thread - thx! The TC 212 really responds differently (with the Streamliner) than my old Avatar 2x10 did... it was very noticeable last night. I had dialed in a good clean sound in my living room yesterday, but of course that means nothing compared to club conditions. By set 2 last night, I had begun to figure things out, and was swooning by the end of the night. Very low gain, master at about 9:00, and volume kinda cranked... tight, spanky tone with definition.
 

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#938
steve_rolfeca said:
Tested it out this morning.

Setup as follows:
- The 5-string in my avatar- EMG P-bass voiced active soapbars (40P5's), no onboard EQ, D'Addario nickel rounds, medium-high action.
- Empress ParaEQ powered by a Dunlop ECB-004 150ma 18V wall wart.
- Streamliner 900 powering a 4-ohm AudioKinesis Thunderchild 112AF.
- Bass into ParaEQ, ParaEQ into the SL900's effects return jack. This bypasses everything but the Master Volume control.
- Neck pickup volume dimed on the bass, Master Volume dimed on the Streamliner.
- Fingerstyle with a moderately light touch.

With the EQ set flat on the Empress, setting the boost at 1:00-2:00 o'clock was enough to get the Peak light flashing steadily on the SL900. If I pushed the boost much further on the ParaEQ, it started to clip when I dug in on the B string. Ditto if I dialed up a lot of bass boost without adjusting levels to compensate.

Conclusion: The ParaEq's output is hot enough to drive the Streamliner to maximum volume, but only just. This may be a moot point, since driving the amp much harder would probably push it into protect mode.

Regardless, the ParaEQ appears to be enough by itself for typical club or jazz work, but in a high-pressure situation like an outdoor rock gig with a monster cab or cabs, or for heavy slapping without a compressor, I'd want a full-on rack preamp, just for insurance.
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This has probably been asked somewhere else in one of these threads, but I forget...
Does the power amp section of the Streamliner sound pretty much like a good separate power amp or does it add any tubiness to the tone (in other words does all the tubiness come from the preamp or the combination of preamp and power amp sections)?
 
#939
lo-freq said:
This has probably been asked somewhere else in one of these threads, but I forget...
Does the power amp section of the Streamliner sound pretty much like a good separate power amp or does it add any tubiness to the tone (in other words does all the tubiness come from the preamp or the combination of preamp and power amp sections)?
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There is some power tube emulation within the power amp, part of the 3DPM circuit.
 
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