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Genzler Amplification Club
- Thread starter Discount Saint
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- Apr 3, 2003
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Here are a few pics from my shoot the other night:
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I'm in that boat. I love my Contour 500 1x15, but 50 pounds up and down steps and slightly awkward carrying angles takes a toll after decades of bar gigs. Now I have to decide between Magellan and Kinetix. Always a choice.
Life is a lot of fun, if you don't pay too close attention to it.
Sadly, all I do is play out in DI/IEM/silent stage situations.
I'm still gassing for a tube DI.
I'm really glad there are people in this world like Tom Bowlus that can't wait to tear something apart and see how it works. I'm not one of those people, but I'm glad I know some.
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That tone has more meat than Arby's
Their loss. Honestly, I won't miss the candy.
Jeff Genzler
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The DI signal comes straight from the first tube input stage, which is tube buffered --- in the PRE setting on the DI. And since the Boost/gain is part of this first tube/input stage, the signal to the DI is also impacted by this switch. So if you have a low output passive bass, you might want to use the Boost sw to get that extra +8db to the DI signal.
If you want more overdriven tone to the DI, you would use the POST setting and you'll get that overdriven tone by driving your Gain control higher and running the Volume lower.
Hope this is helpful.
I like the Kinetix 800 voicing and EQ settings:
https://genzleramplification.com/wp...04/KINETIX-800-OWNERS-MANUAL-FINAL-WEB-V2.pdf
LEAN / FAT / THICK SWITCH – This switch selects between LEAN, FAT and THICK tonal foundations. These 3 settings provide a variety of initial foundational settings as a platform to build and shape the feel of your tone. Each position provides a different high pass filter (HPF) setting plus a unique low end response curve and can be used in conjunction with the BASS control for a variety of different situations and feels.
LEAN – This position sets the highest HPF of the 3 positions. This setting offers a gradual sloping roll-off and a very slight but broad boost centered around 95 Hz. This setting is ideal for boomy instruments, cabinets, or rooms; hollow stages; or if a more lean instrument tone is desired. “Lean is mean!”
FAT – This position sets the foundation with a medium, but steeper HPF slope along with a narrow boost at approx. 80 Hz. This setting might be considered the “go to” position for most situations as it provides a meaty “fat-finger” tone as well as a punchy kinetic response. “Fat is where it’s at!”
THICK – Set to this position, the HPF is at its lowest setting and steepest filter slope, with a lower boost starting at approx. 80 Hz that then rises gradually to its peak at 50 Hz. This setting is big and thunderous with a thick, solid, deep foundation for building your tone and is primarily intended to enhance the feel at low to moderate volume levels or for use with thinner sounding instruments or cabinets. Under these situations, “Thick is the trick!”
NOTE – this setting may be more subtle with smaller sized cabinets.
EQUALIZATION FILTERS – The KINETIXTM 800 contains an all tube driven EQ section. Spend some time experimenting
so that the process becomes creative as well as corrective. Your ears are the best tools in this process.
BASS – +/-13dB boost/cut shelving curve with a corner frequency of 70 Hz. Boosting this control can add more bigness, punch or warmth to the low end. Cutting this control can help clean up or lean out the low end. When used in conjunction with the LEAN/FAT/THICK switch a variety of low frequency tones and feels can be achieved.
LO-MID – +/-10dB boost/cut at 250 Hz. Boosting this control can add more punch, growl, or bark to the tone. Cutting this control can mellow or smooth out the tone.
MID – +6dB boost/-11dB cut at 575 Hz. Boosting this control can bring out more of the harmonic content and grit of the tone. Cutting this control can mellow or smooth out the midrange and when used in conjunction with the LO-MID and /or HI-MID controls can provide a variety of slap tones.
HI-MID – +/-11dB boost/cut at 2.3 KHz. Boosting this control can add more presence or bite to a duller sounding instrument or cabinet. Cutting this control can help tame a harsh of clanky sounding instrument or cabinet.
TREBLE – +/-13dB boost/cut shelving curve with a corner frequency of 5 KHz. Boosting this control can add clarity, presence, brightness, and air to the tone. Cutting this control can mellow out the top end and make the tone warmer, smoother or even dark.
https://genzleramplification.com/wp...04/KINETIX-800-OWNERS-MANUAL-FINAL-WEB-V2.pdf
LEAN / FAT / THICK SWITCH – This switch selects between LEAN, FAT and THICK tonal foundations. These 3 settings provide a variety of initial foundational settings as a platform to build and shape the feel of your tone. Each position provides a different high pass filter (HPF) setting plus a unique low end response curve and can be used in conjunction with the BASS control for a variety of different situations and feels.
LEAN – This position sets the highest HPF of the 3 positions. This setting offers a gradual sloping roll-off and a very slight but broad boost centered around 95 Hz. This setting is ideal for boomy instruments, cabinets, or rooms; hollow stages; or if a more lean instrument tone is desired. “Lean is mean!”
FAT – This position sets the foundation with a medium, but steeper HPF slope along with a narrow boost at approx. 80 Hz. This setting might be considered the “go to” position for most situations as it provides a meaty “fat-finger” tone as well as a punchy kinetic response. “Fat is where it’s at!”
THICK – Set to this position, the HPF is at its lowest setting and steepest filter slope, with a lower boost starting at approx. 80 Hz that then rises gradually to its peak at 50 Hz. This setting is big and thunderous with a thick, solid, deep foundation for building your tone and is primarily intended to enhance the feel at low to moderate volume levels or for use with thinner sounding instruments or cabinets. Under these situations, “Thick is the trick!”
NOTE – this setting may be more subtle with smaller sized cabinets.
EQUALIZATION FILTERS – The KINETIXTM 800 contains an all tube driven EQ section. Spend some time experimenting
so that the process becomes creative as well as corrective. Your ears are the best tools in this process.
BASS – +/-13dB boost/cut shelving curve with a corner frequency of 70 Hz. Boosting this control can add more bigness, punch or warmth to the low end. Cutting this control can help clean up or lean out the low end. When used in conjunction with the LEAN/FAT/THICK switch a variety of low frequency tones and feels can be achieved.
LO-MID – +/-10dB boost/cut at 250 Hz. Boosting this control can add more punch, growl, or bark to the tone. Cutting this control can mellow or smooth out the tone.
MID – +6dB boost/-11dB cut at 575 Hz. Boosting this control can bring out more of the harmonic content and grit of the tone. Cutting this control can mellow or smooth out the midrange and when used in conjunction with the LO-MID and /or HI-MID controls can provide a variety of slap tones.
HI-MID – +/-11dB boost/cut at 2.3 KHz. Boosting this control can add more presence or bite to a duller sounding instrument or cabinet. Cutting this control can help tame a harsh of clanky sounding instrument or cabinet.
TREBLE – +/-13dB boost/cut shelving curve with a corner frequency of 5 KHz. Boosting this control can add clarity, presence, brightness, and air to the tone. Cutting this control can mellow out the top end and make the tone warmer, smoother or even dark.
That sounds like VERY useful information! Have D800+, MG800 that I just got a few months ago. Now GAS HAS JUST HIT!
I see this being my choice VERY soon.
I see this being my choice VERY soon.
@Jeff Genzler, will there be a new carry bag? I see there's a slight difference in size vs. the Magellan head.
- Apr 3, 2003
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210 and 115. Love 'em! They really sound great with the Kinetix, and I hear the most "bounce" (from the Kinetix) out of them.
- Apr 3, 2003
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The old one fits. It's a tad tight, but it fits.
Love the tube concept! Might consider swapping the Streamliner out for this one. Like seeing a different eq format than semi parametric which I’ve had on all my amps for decades. I must be honest, the amp name, Kinetix, does not have a big draw/hook for me. Feels kinda modern for something with tubes or just weird for an amp name.
