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Grindcore
- Thread starter bluewine
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+1. Truth.
Listen to this guy. Not "grind" but he rips. He has his own original stuff too.
I defy anyone to check out the youtube link below and tell me there aren't talented musicians in the grindcore genre. Sure they aren't your typical grind band and it its far from a typical grind song but their roots are firmly in the genre as evidenced by earlier material. At any rate, check it out. and for all the older/grind hating guys who make it past 1:45 you might find yourself a pleasant surprise.
Ok, I don't like grindcore either, but with you bashing it the way you just did, you clearly either a) don't understand it-- it's SUPPOSED to sound like a sloppy, distorted blur, or b) are confusing it with some sort of mallcore.
I know I'm getting trolled, but whatever.
I know I'm getting trolled, but whatever.
More a combination of the two, Napalm Death obviously took influence from the punk/hardcore and death/thrash metal scene.
Extreme music will always have a limited appeal. Its not written to achieve mainstream popularity.
To all the grindcore nay-sayers
much like some of the more abstract jazz, if you don't get it, you're not supposed to get it.
- Jul 8, 2009
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Every generation thinks they're better than the others. It's a fact of life. We get it. I peronally don't see why we need to have every single member talking about how all new music isn't music. Do I dislike some newer music? Yes. Do I like older music? Yes. Do I point the finger at others and say they don't even listen to music? No.
I checked it out, and I felt it was pretty awful. Kinda "everything but the kitchen sink" composition. The drumming was impressive, and pretty much dominated the song -- everything else seemed fairy mundane. Then they throw in a jazzy solo to prove their guitar skill (been done -- RATM did it, and did it better). Remove the screaming and distortion pedal, add an a capella break-down and you have prog. Kinda like Rush, without a hook (or anything really memorable)...
Love metal, hate the goofy labels, hate ads that say stupid crap like "we play it fast..."...
Sure.
Nobody.
Because that's what people join internet forums for -- to discuss stuff. And "trolling" has lost its meaning these days -- trolling was a way to derail forums from their proper topics. I can't call OP's post a troll... Sure, genre arguments are probably WELL covered topics, but this is a musician's community, this topic at least toes the line of "band management," and in the end, music forum - music discussion -- that's what forums are for. And if you don't like it, don't freakin' read the thread!
Metal, grindcore, yes you have to have super chops to play this stuff.
If it's what your into it's cool, me I don't get it, just as if I showed you stuff I think is awesome,I'll bet, you would not get it.
I talk a lot about Pop Culture, particularly in reference to the rock culture and mind set of the whole scene from the 60s and 70s.
Most (not all) younger TBers simply don't get it. Which is understandable as I am to old to understand the apeal of metal and all the off shoots.
The 60s and 70s have been gone for a long time.Whats happening now is whats happening now. As with anything else things have to change and evolve.
The only thing I feel sorry about is that the younger TBers don't have icons like we had and still have.
They don't have a;
Mick Jagger
Jimi Hendrix
Eric Clapton
Janis Joplin
Jim Morrison
Aretha Franklin
James Brown
Sly Stone
Neil Young
John Lennon
It's not their fault it's just not the right time in musical history for it to happen again.
If it's what your into it's cool, me I don't get it, just as if I showed you stuff I think is awesome,I'll bet, you would not get it.
I talk a lot about Pop Culture, particularly in reference to the rock culture and mind set of the whole scene from the 60s and 70s.
Most (not all) younger TBers simply don't get it. Which is understandable as I am to old to understand the apeal of metal and all the off shoots.
The 60s and 70s have been gone for a long time.Whats happening now is whats happening now. As with anything else things have to change and evolve.
The only thing I feel sorry about is that the younger TBers don't have icons like we had and still have.
They don't have a;
Mick Jagger
Jimi Hendrix
Eric Clapton
Janis Joplin
Jim Morrison
Aretha Franklin
James Brown
Sly Stone
Neil Young
John Lennon
It's not their fault it's just not the right time in musical history for it to happen again.
Mark my words. John Mayer will end up being an icon for many the guitarist and bass players out there one day. He is for some already, esp with his jazzy blues trio
There is really some great heavy stuff coming out now which has a strong jazz fusion influence. I think the genre is sort of called fusion metal at the moment. The writing the and general musicianship really is of a VERY high calibre and many of the new bassists involved are a new generation of fretless players who grew playing stuff from both Pantera and Pastorius.
I find this music a rather nice breath of fresh air.
PS. The bands doing this sort of thing are Exivious, Spaced Out, Counter-World Experience, Planet X, Morglbl, Spastic Ink, Cynic, Obscura. It's music like this ( plus other jazzier forms of fusion ) which indeed inspires me to continue evolving as a musician. Even if some of it does have a "Cookie Monster" style vocal delivery.
( and I wouldn't call myself a young guy, I grew up in the 70's )
I find this music a rather nice breath of fresh air.
PS. The bands doing this sort of thing are Exivious, Spaced Out, Counter-World Experience, Planet X, Morglbl, Spastic Ink, Cynic, Obscura. It's music like this ( plus other jazzier forms of fusion ) which indeed inspires me to continue evolving as a musician. Even if some of it does have a "Cookie Monster" style vocal delivery.
( and I wouldn't call myself a young guy, I grew up in the 70's )
PS. I would say that from the Guitarists POV that John McLaughlin and Allan Holdsworth have an INCREDIBLY HUGE influence on the new generation of young "fusion metal" players.
